Deebo Samuel-WR-South Carolina

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Where in his contract did it say he was paid to be an elite separator? Nuk was never a WR that could separate. DK isn't some elite route runner that can separate. Theres plenty of WRs that aren't elite separators that have gotten paid. Deebo has always been great vs zone. Thats also a skill set.

Every single report from this off season was saying Deebo looked great, motivated blah blah blah. Even negative Nancy Grant talked about it.

What's made Deebo special is his ability to be built like a RB and move like a WR. He's not going down first contact. I wouldn't be shocked if he's also hurt currently…His money has always been made with those in breaking routes. For whatever reason he hasn't been getting those types of targets this yr. The pass game overall has been vanilla s**t. Part of that falls on Kyle.

folks didn't want to hear me BUT losing BA hit this team tremendously. He was our true X that could lineup all over the place. He could handle the hard routes and deal with a teams top DB while guys like Deebo/kittle/JJ and CMC got quality matchups.

he ain't great vs zone. Puka in his first game sits down better in zones than i have ever seen from deebo. he's a fat gadget at this point.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The Niners caved in and paid 2 recivers top money. Now they have one on IR and the other one can't get much separation. They're paying nearly $50 million per year for 2 guys that arten't helping this year and maybe next year.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
got the bag, out of shape, mentally checked out

Deebo was never great at separating. So that doesn't change anything there. He was still productive and showed up when it mattered. Also Deebo has never been a workout warrior. So nothing has changed there. Where are all the in breaking routes that he usually get be YAC on? The passing offense took a massive step back this yr (the scheme was never great to begin with).

ya'll s**t on BA because he wanted to get paid. Well the passing offense has suffered a ton because he's not out there as well

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he ain't great vs zone. Puka in his first game sits down better in zones than i have ever seen from deebo. he's a fat gadget at this point.

b******t he's not good in zone. He's been one of the most productive WRs vs zone for years. Don't make s**t up.

Puka is good no doubt. They don't run the same passing scheme as Kyle. There's a ton of those tunnel screen passes and all those rub routes.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Deebo was never great at separating. So that doesn't change anything there. He was still productive and showed up when it mattered. Also Deebo has never been a workout warrior. So nothing has changed there. Where are all the in breaking routes that he usually get be YAC on? The passing offense took a massive step back this yr (the scheme was never great to begin with).

ya'll s**t on BA because he wanted to get paid. Well the passing offense has suffered a ton because he's not out there as well

i don't begrudge him for wanting to get paid, but he made a mockery of the offseason with his 'i made it harder than it needed to be' foolishness. don't know why you say that with a smirk to the fanbase. when he was going off the rails with his trade demands i wished we just flipped him to the Steelers. time to quit playing games.

deebo if he wanted to be good, he would be good. he wanted to be good in 2021. he earned his bag, and he hasn't been that good since. lot of opportunity for him this year and he shows me he didn't really want to step up or do anything.

gotta go back to the SB with deebo, he got totally humiliated it was some of the most trash tape of all time

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't begrudge him for wanting to get paid, but he made a mockery of the offseason with his 'i made it harder than it needed to be' foolishness. don't know why you say that with a smirk to the fanbase. when he was going off the rails with his trade demands i wished we just flipped him to the Steelers. time to quit playing games.

deebo if he wanted to be good, he would be good. he wanted to be good in 2021. he earned his bag, and he hasn't been that good since. lot of opportunity for him this year and he shows me he didn't really want to step up or do anything.

Who gives a s**t if he said that stuff? Literally it has nothing to do with you or me. It doesn't affect us at all. Yet fans were being emotional babies about someone else's money. I mean if you don't think he should have gotten paid that, fine. He clearly matters to this team and the passing game overall.

Also how about SF takes care of their business for once? Instead of dragging s**t out until the last moment (and caving anyway). Did it with Trent, Fred, Deebo, Bosa, kittle etc, take care of your s**t on time for once. You don't want to pay them, we'll move them when it's the most opportunistic and be done with it.

Thinking a player doesn't want to be good all of a sudden is ridiculous. The moment they get paid, it's onto working for the next deal. If he didn't can't he wouldn't be doing what he did vs Philly last yr. You act like he's not trying to break tackles anymore…we all watch the game.

Just last yr


acting like he doesn't care about football after he got paid. Horrible take

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Where in his contract did it say he was paid to be an elite separator? Nuk was never a WR that could separate. DK isn't some elite route runner that can separate. Theres plenty of WRs that aren't elite separators that have gotten paid. Deebo has always been great vs zone. Thats also a skill set.

Every single report from this off season was saying Deebo looked great, motivated blah blah blah. Even negative Nancy Grant talked about it.

What's made Deebo special is his ability to be built like a RB and move like a WR. He's not going down first contact. I wouldn't be shocked if he's also hurt currently…His money has always been made with those in breaking routes. For whatever reason he hasn't been getting those types of targets this yr. The pass game overall has been vanilla s**t. Part of that falls on Kyle.

folks didn't want to hear me BUT losing BA hit this team tremendously. He was our true X that could lineup all over the place. He could handle the hard routes and deal with a teams top DB while guys like Deebo/kittle/JJ and CMC got quality matchups.

he ain't great vs zone. Puka in his first game sits down better in zones than i have ever seen from deebo. he's a fat gadget at this point.

Ya.....what was I thinking. Separation is over rated.

Cant play man coverage oh well.

Not willing to.put the work in like a workout warrior. Waste of time.even being physical is his game.

Being built like RB with skills of a WR should create separation through physicality shoulnt it...na separation...who needs it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Who gives a s**t if he said that stuff? Literally it has nothing to do with you or me. It doesn't affect us at all. Yet fans were being emotional babies about someone else's money. I mean if you don't think he should have gotten paid that, fine. He clearly matters to this team and the passing game overall.

Also how about SF takes care of their business for once? Instead of dragging s**t out until the last moment (and caving anyway). Did it with Trent, Fred, Deebo, Bosa, kittle etc, take care of your s**t on time for once. You don't want to pay them, we'll move them when it's the most opportunistic and be done with it.

Thinking a player doesn't want to be good all of a sudden is ridiculous. The moment they get paid, it's onto working for the next deal. If he didn't can't he wouldn't be doing what he did vs Philly last yr. You act like he's not trying to break tackles anymore…we all watch the game.

Proof is in the production. He's useless. Even handing the ball to him doesn't work anymore. I'd rather hand it to IG he's better and he's third or fourth string

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Not

So never has been able to separate.

Not a workout warrior.

Can only excel in certain defenses.

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Ya.....what was I thinking. Separation is over rated.

Cant play man coverage oh well.

Not willing to.put the work in like a workout warrior. Waste of time.even being physical is his game.

Being built like RB with skills of a WR should create separation through physicality shoulnt it...na separation...who needs it.

Nuk can't separate. Q couldn't separate. DK isn't elite there. Mike Evans isn't some elite route runner…Tons of WRs aren't elite separators and are still good.

again show me all the in breaking routes that are being called this yr? That's where he's made his money. He's also been great vs zone coverage which is what is run all over the place.

Deebo isn't getting the looks he's gotten his whole career here. I have no idea why that's the case. Christ just look at the plays I just posted from last yr. You can't tell me in one off season he turned into a horrible football player

Fix the O-line then we'll see a better Deebo.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Proof is in the production. He's useless. Even handing the ball to him doesn't work anymore. I'd rather hand it to IG he's better and he's third or fourth string

So what was last yr? I just posted a handful of plays were he looks like Deebo. Production on a per catch has always been good. He's only gotten 100 targets in a season once.

Again he's not getting the looks he's gotten his whole career here. There's something wrong with our passing scheme and I don't know what it is….is Brock not reading the field as quickly as he did last yr?

what made Deebo special is what he can do when he gets the ball in his hands. He's not gonna get separation quickly. That's not his game, he's not a split end. He plays that flanker/slot role and has been damn good at it. That's why Brandon and him made a good combo. BA was that separator and could get off the LOS to beat man.

if his ability to break tackles and get YAC are gone then he might be cooked. Not sure what the deal is currently

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Proof is in the production. He's useless. Even handing the ball to him doesn't work anymore. I'd rather hand it to IG he's better and he's third or fourth string

So what was last yr? I just posted a handful of plays were he looks like Deebo.

Again he's not getting the looks he's gotten his whole career here. There's something wrong with our passing scheme and I don't know what it is….is Brock not reading the field as quickly as he did last yr?

reread what i wrote. he ain't doing jack on the handoffs. that has zero to do with brock. if he wanted to be great, he would do what is needed to be great. he would be in the best shape of his life and cooking it. takes a lot of work, and only a few guys have the desire to be truly great and do what is required for that. lot of us would leave work so fast the chair would be spinning if we won lotto, same thing for these guys. they are human at the end of the day. we are paying him for past performance and should move on. he looks to me like a player who is content, not hungry.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Not

So never has been able to separate.

Not a workout warrior.

Can only excel in certain defenses.

N

Ya.....what was I thinking. Separation is over rated.

Cant play man coverage oh well.

Not willing to.put the work in like a workout warrior. Waste of time.even being physical is his game.

Being built like RB with skills of a WR should create separation through physicality shoulnt it...na separation...who needs it.

Nuk can't separate. Q couldn't separate. DK isn't elite there. Mike Evans isn't some elite route runner…Tons of WRs aren't elite separators and are still good.

again show me all the in breaking routes that are being called this yr? That's where he's made his money. He's also been great vs zone coverage which is what is run all over the place.

Deebo isn't getting the looks he's gotten his whole career here. I have no idea why that's the case. Christ just look at the plays I just posted from last yr. You can't tell me in one off season he turned into a horrible football player

Deebo Samuel's best plays from last season 🔥 pic.twitter.com/lmAaqZO7LG

— Football's Greatest Moments (@FBGreatMoments) December 6, 2024

Different ways to separate....route running, physicality, speed? You have to have a degree of separation or no one is catching the ball so I dont get your point.

You talk like Deebo has had a bunch of good seasons. Deebo has never put up stats that screams elite except for the year before he held out. So shame on him and shame on the 49ers office for being so stupid

So let's summarize, we paid elite WR money to a aknow player that cant only produce on in breaking routes and is lazy?