Deebo Samuel-WR-South Carolina

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. lol. Folks exposing themselves as usual.

It is so easy winning debates with many of yall. Have been doing it for years. Y'all post based off emotion.. based off personal hate.. based off jealousy.

Sad.

Exposing. Personal hate. You have a history of passive aggressive accusations against other posters for being racist. I see nothing has changed.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. lol. Folks exposing themselves as usual.

It is so easy winning debates with many of yall. Have been doing it for years. Y'all post based off emotion.. based off personal hate.. based off jealousy.

Sad.

There are no winning debates in here. Everyone is an arm chair that thinks their opinion is fact. Yet none of them work in football, although there a bunch of posters who seem to think they are coaches, talent evaluators and front office personnel all rolled up into one. They tell everyone and everybody who doesn't share their opinions how wrong they are.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. lol. Folks exposing themselves as usual.

It is so easy winning debates with many of yall. Have been doing it for years. Y'all post based off emotion.. based off personal hate.. based off jealousy.

Sad.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. lol. Folks exposing themselves as usual.

It is so easy winning debates with many of yall. Have been doing it for years. Y'all post based off emotion.. based off personal hate.. based off jealousy.

Sad.

Exposing. Personal hate. You have a history of passive aggressive accusations against other posters for being racist. I see nothing has changed.

Racist? For some, prejudice for sure. Some make it too obvious. Also some are not consistent with their critique of players or head coaches. Like they will let Kyle get away with s**t they would not let other coaches get away with (showing up drunk to our Super Bowl week, and making an idiotic decsion in OT...losing two Super Bowls).. let Jimmy G get away with s**t they would slam our past QBs for. Hell we have Brock doing a bunch of commercials, hell one week after we lost the Super Bowl.. and hell one RIGHT after we were eliminated today/loss. Like literally right after our game ended. But folks were bashing Kaepernick for doing commercials. Even when it was pointed out that Kap obviously did the commercials before the season started (just like Purdy), if didn't matter.

If some feel attacked for s**t like that being pointed out, well what does that say?

For Deebo, I've criticized folks for calling him fat and out of shape... for trying to change history and act like he always had catching issues. For you to jump to racism with that post, says more about you dude.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. lol. Folks exposing themselves as usual.

It is so easy winning debates with many of yall. Have been doing it for years. Y'all post based off emotion.. based off personal hate.. based off jealousy.

Sad.

Exposing. Personal hate. You have a history of passive aggressive accusations against other posters for being racist. I see nothing has changed.

Racist? For some, prejudice for sure. Some make it too obvious. Also some are not consistent with their critique of players or head coaches. Like they will let Kyle get away with s**t they would not let other coaches get away with (showing up drunk to our Super Bowl week, and making an idiotic decsion in OT...losing two Super Bowls).. let Jimmy G get away with s**t they would slam our past QBs for. Hell we have Brock doing a bunch of commercials, hell one week after we lost the Super Bowl.. and hell one RIGHT after we were eliminated today/loss. Like literally right after our game ended. But folks were bashing Kaepernick for doing commercials. Even when it was pointed out that Kap obviously did the commercials before the season started (just like Purdy), if didn't matter.

If some feel attacked for s**t like that being pointed out, well what does that say?

For Deebo, I've criticized folks for calling him fat and out of shape... for trying to change history and act like he always had catching issues. For you to jump to racism with that post, says more about you dude.

At least now you're being honest. So question. If people are being "prejudiced" as you say then why is Jennings liked by every single fan and poster, yet Deebo is criticized so harshly? Is it possible that there are other factors besides race as to why fans are critical of certain players over others?

Edit - and no, dude. You're not going to play that game with me. We've all seen you make these accusations in other situations, this time is no different. You stated that people are "exposing themselves" and displaying "personal hate." This has been your schtick for years. As I've asked you a dozen other times, if you're not referring to race, then what are you talking about?

Deebo still got that Deebo, just need quality touches

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Deebo still got that Deebo, just need quality touches

I think there's a metaphor about an old blind squirrel somewhere that would fit for deebo...

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Deebo still got that Deebo, just need quality touches

I think there's a metaphor about an old blind squirrel somewhere that would fit for deebo...

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. lol. Folks exposing themselves as usual.

It is so easy winning debates with many of yall. Have been doing it for years. Y'all post based off emotion.. based off personal hate.. based off jealousy.

Sad.

Exposing. Personal hate. You have a history of passive aggressive accusations against other posters for being racist. I see nothing has changed.

Racist? For some, prejudice for sure. Some make it too obvious. Also some are not consistent with their critique of players or head coaches. Like they will let Kyle get away with s**t they would not let other coaches get away with (showing up drunk to our Super Bowl week, and making an idiotic decsion in OT...losing two Super Bowls).. let Jimmy G get away with s**t they would slam our past QBs for. Hell we have Brock doing a bunch of commercials, hell one week after we lost the Super Bowl.. and hell one RIGHT after we were eliminated today/loss. Like literally right after our game ended. But folks were bashing Kaepernick for doing commercials. Even when it was pointed out that Kap obviously did the commercials before the season started (just like Purdy), if didn't matter.

If some feel attacked for s**t like that being pointed out, well what does that say?

For Deebo, I've criticized folks for calling him fat and out of shape... for trying to change history and act like he always had catching issues. For you to jump to racism with that post, says more about you dude.

At least now you're being honest. So question. If people are being "prejudiced" as you say then why is Jennings liked by every single fan and poster, yet Deebo is criticized so harshly? Is it possible that there are other factors besides race as to why fans are critical of certain players over others?

Edit - and no, dude. You're not going to play that game with me. We've all seen you make these accusations in other situations, this time is no different. You stated that people are "exposing themselves" and displaying "personal hate." This has been your schtick for years. As I've asked you a dozen other times, if you're not referring to race, then what are you talking about?

Again your jumping to race with the Deebo s**t...

When I said exposed... yes personal hate regarding Deebo. Because the other reasons for hating on him are NOT true. He is not fat. He is not out of shape. He does not have catching issues.

So yes folks exposed themselves after the game because EVEN THOUGH he proved once again he is in shape... he is a play maker... yall still came into this thread and criticized him with some nonsense.

So now it's not that he is fat... out of shape... etc... it's that he's a paycheck player (how the f**k is this even a reasonable take when he already has his money, and will continue to get his money...with us or by someone else??? Even if he didn't play another game the rest of the season, he is still gonna get paid next year... will still make plays next year)

This is what you wrote after the game, weeks of calling him out of shape..

Yep you called it. He got it started a little early. Figured he'd leave everyone with a positive outlook after the last three meaningless games. Paycheck player.

You didn't come in here to say "
damn, I guess he is in shape.." or "ok good job let's see how he does the next few weeks as well"

No, you came in here and your first response is just some weird s**t about a paycheck player. So yeah, you have a personal issue with him. And you exposed yourself, after weeks of saying something that wasn't true (that he is out of shape).

As far as

"This has been your schtick for years. As I've asked you a dozen other times, if you're not referring to race, then what are you talking about?"

Again all I point out are the inconsistencies of some vocal posters' criticisms. Treating certain players different than others, and now treating certain head coaches different from others. I can't say why yall/they want to do that, but it is there. And I'll point that out...and will continue to point that out. The folks who read will take away their own conclusions from that. I don't have to use or throw out race or anything. If it doesn't seem to have to do with race, then the reader will feel that way. If they feel it has to do with race, well that will be the take away for them. Hilarious that your brought up Jennings.

1. If people are being "prejudiced" as you say then why is Jennings liked by every single fan and poster, yet Deebo is criticized so harshly? Is it possible that there are other factors besides race as to why fans are critical of certain players over others?

this is basically saying "We don't bash Jennings, who's black, so that makes us fair"..

When Jennings starts looking for what he is worth come contract time.. or defends himself for critique that he doesn't view as fair... basically starts opening his mouth for some... then hell f**king yeah those same fans will turn on him as well.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Deebo still got that Deebo, just need quality touches

With another team.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
He'll be back for sure. Not sure what that means for, Pearsall, though, with Aiyuk, Deebo and JJ still on the team.

Aiyuk likely won't be ready for camp possibly even start of the season. RP should get a chance in the offseason to earn a role. With any luck we cut Juice and start using more 3 WR sets. Pearsall could eat into some of Juice's reps.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
He'll be back for sure. Not sure what that means for, Pearsall, though, with Aiyuk, Deebo and JJ still on the team.

Aiyuk likely won't be ready for camp possibly even start of the season. RP should get a chance in the offseason to earn a role. With any luck we cut Juice and start using more 3 WR sets. Pearsall could eat into some of Juice's reps.

Aiyuk might never be the same player again.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
He'll be back for sure. Not sure what that means for, Pearsall, though, with Aiyuk, Deebo and JJ still on the team.

Aiyuk likely won't be ready for camp possibly even start of the season. RP should get a chance in the offseason to earn a role. With any luck we cut Juice and start using more 3 WR sets. Pearsall could eat into some of Juice's reps.

Aiyuk might never be the same player again.

I'm betting on that…

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. lol. Folks exposing themselves as usual.

It is so easy winning debates with many of yall. Have been doing it for years. Y'all post based off emotion.. based off personal hate.. based off jealousy.

Sad.

Exposing. Personal hate. You have a history of passive aggressive accusations against other posters for being racist. I see nothing has changed.

Racist? For some, prejudice for sure. Some make it too obvious. Also some are not consistent with their critique of players or head coaches. Like they will let Kyle get away with s**t they would not let other coaches get away with (showing up drunk to our Super Bowl week, and making an idiotic decsion in OT...losing two Super Bowls).. let Jimmy G get away with s**t they would slam our past QBs for. Hell we have Brock doing a bunch of commercials, hell one week after we lost the Super Bowl.. and hell one RIGHT after we were eliminated today/loss. Like literally right after our game ended. But folks were bashing Kaepernick for doing commercials. Even when it was pointed out that Kap obviously did the commercials before the season started (just like Purdy), if didn't matter.

If some feel attacked for s**t like that being pointed out, well what does that say?

For Deebo, I've criticized folks for calling him fat and out of shape... for trying to change history and act like he always had catching issues. For you to jump to racism with that post, says more about you dude.

At least now you're being honest. So question. If people are being "prejudiced" as you say then why is Jennings liked by every single fan and poster, yet Deebo is criticized so harshly? Is it possible that there are other factors besides race as to why fans are critical of certain players over others?

Edit - and no, dude. You're not going to play that game with me. We've all seen you make these accusations in other situations, this time is no different. You stated that people are "exposing themselves" and displaying "personal hate." This has been your schtick for years. As I've asked you a dozen other times, if you're not referring to race, then what are you talking about?

Again your jumping to race with the Deebo s**t...

When I said exposed... yes personal hate regarding Deebo. Because the other reasons for hating on him are NOT true. He is not fat. He is not out of shape. He does not have catching issues.

So yes folks exposed themselves after the game because EVEN THOUGH he proved once again he is in shape... he is a play maker... yall still came into this thread and criticized him with some nonsense.

So now it's not that he is fat... out of shape... etc... it's that he's a paycheck player (how the f**k is this even a reasonable take when he already has his money, and will continue to get his money...with us or by someone else??? Even if he didn't play another game the rest of the season, he is still gonna get paid next year... will still make plays next year)

This is what you wrote after the game, weeks of calling him out of shape..

Yep you called it. He got it started a little early. Figured he'd leave everyone with a positive outlook after the last three meaningless games. Paycheck player.

You didn't come in here to say "
damn, I guess he is in shape.." or "ok good job let's see how he does the next few weeks as well"

No, you came in here and your first response is just some weird s**t about a paycheck player. So yeah, you have a personal issue with him. And you exposed yourself, after weeks of saying something that wasn't true (that he is out of shape).

As far as

"This has been your schtick for years. As I've asked you a dozen other times, if you're not referring to race, then what are you talking about?"

Again all I point out are the inconsistencies of some vocal posters' criticisms. Treating certain players different than others, and now treating certain head coaches different from others. I can't say why yall/they want to do that, but it is there. And I'll point that out...and will continue to point that out. The folks who read will take away their own conclusions from that. I don't have to use or throw out race or anything. If it doesn't seem to have to do with race, then the reader will feel that way. If they feel it has to do with race, well that will be the take away for them. Hilarious that your brought up Jennings.

1. If people are being "prejudiced" as you say then why is Jennings liked by every single fan and poster, yet Deebo is criticized so harshly? Is it possible that there are other factors besides race as to why fans are critical of certain players over others?

this is basically saying "We don't bash Jennings, who's black, so that makes us fair"..

When Jennings starts looking for what he is worth come contract time.. or defends himself for critique that he doesn't view as fair... basically starts opening his mouth for some... then hell f**king yeah those same fans will turn on him as well.

OF COURSE we treat different players/coaches differently - each player/coach has different attributes and successes/failures. This entire post of yours proves my point. Jennings being black and being universally liked while many are criticizing Deebo means that their blackness is not a factor. How can you possibly not understand this?

As far as Deebo being fat, I don't know why you continue to defend him here. He's always been pudgy and multiple people (includer a poster's wife lol) have commented on this. It's clear this season he was struggling with his weight as evidenced by the pictures he sent to Kyle showing that he was losing weight. It's an issue for him. And to be paying a guy top money to be a #1/#2 WR when he's struggling with food/weight issues is concerning.

The game yesterday 100% proved my point about his previous lack of effort. He sure as hell didn't lose weight over the past week nor anything other than just make it a point to try harder. He played a great game and was very effective. He broke more tackles on his TD drive than he has all season. So the question to you and 49ATT (the only two left defending him) is where has that been all season?

He knows damn well that people are noticing his lack of effort and he hears the criticisms. Can't imagine the coaches and perhaps teammates aren't getting on him. So he turned it up a notch. Just in time to make a good impression heading into the off season. Next season is a contract year for him, and he'll be playing for his last contract. If we can trade him for a 3-5th, I'd take it and use that salary savings for someone better fit to Purdy. But if not then just let him play for his next contract with his next team.

The criticisms of Deebo are absolutely fair and you should seriously drop this nonsense about people being racist/prejudiced and having "personal issues" with Deebo. None of us know any of these players personally. We're all giving our opinion based on their play and what they say in interviews about their play. If they give us a window into their personal lives, then those things get factored in too. There are plenty of threads in the politics forums where you can debate about racism, keep NT about football.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Deebo still got that Deebo, just need quality touches

What was different about his touches this game? It was the exact same stuff. Handoffs, screens, slants, crossing routes. I don't know who's take is worse, yours about "quality touches" or Afrikan accusing people of being racist/prejudiced against Deebo.