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Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by FL9er:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Deebo "won't be a second contract guy" on the Niners. Per KNBR.

Where did this come from ? Is he mad running Jet sweeps and pitches from JG?

Who said it? Krueger? Cohn?
It was during Kruger and Pappas show. Think it was Kruger then they had Maiocco come on and they asked him and he didn't address it. Maiocco is very cautious with 49er rumors.

TBH it wouldn't shock me. You can't just pay everyone top dollar, especially in one area of the team. Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, if I could only pick 2 then Deebo would be odd man out.

We'll see but I'd certainly try and would really prevail upon those guys of how special the whole core can be. We have seen special things from Kittle, Mostert, and Deebo. Aiyuk is getting started. And we have a special play caller. Hoping they see it too and we can keep this going as long as possible. If the band has to break up in the next 4 years, then I hope we at least get a ring or two out of it.

I'm really expecting record setting RAC numbers from this squad.
Originally posted by FL9er:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Deebo "won't be a second contract guy" on the Niners. Per KNBR.

Where did this come from ? Is he mad running Jet sweeps and pitches from JG?

Who said it? Krueger? Cohn?

Recently suggested Cohn videos started popping up on my youtube feed again(idk why if I told YouTube to stop suggesting his crap to me) and the clickbait title was "49ers not as high on Deebo as people may think" so maybe thats where the rumor is coming from. f**k Cohn.
I believe Deevah turned everyone OFF when he was laughing to whatever JET was saying in his exit selfie out of SF !!
Sadly, I agree that e can't pay everyone, and Deebo is only locked up for 2 more years. I will cross that road when it comes, but if after this season we try to work out a long term deal with Deebo, and he wants ridiculous money, I would start looking at a replacement for him in next years draft. I am always down for keeping who we can when we can, but we're paying top dollar to quite a few positions, and Bosa is gonna cost a lot of $$$ to keep. WR might be a position that we draft 1-2 every year, and just kind of recycle out the bad ones, and let the guys who want top dollar walk in FA.

This is basically what we need to do at RB, we can find good ones as UDFA's. I would draft a RB every year in the mid to late rounds, and recycle them as they become FA's, because Shanahan has proven he can find contributions from next man up mentality.
i'd pay to keep him even if we have to overpay a little. team looked completely different without him in the lineup. Aiyuk and Deebo should be kept at all costs IMO. Cuts/trades can be made with overpaid players like Ward/Armstead.
Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
Sadly, I agree that e can't pay everyone, and Deebo is only locked up for 2 more years. I will cross that road when it comes, but if after this season we try to work out a long term deal with Deebo, and he wants ridiculous money, I would start looking at a replacement for him in next years draft. I am always down for keeping who we can when we can, but we're paying top dollar to quite a few positions, and Bosa is gonna cost a lot of $$$ to keep. WR might be a position that we draft 1-2 every year, and just kind of recycle out the bad ones, and let the guys who want top dollar walk in FA.

This is basically what we need to do at RB, we can find good ones as UDFA's. I would draft a RB every year in the mid to late rounds, and recycle them as they become FA's, because Shanahan has proven he can find contributions from next man up mentality.

He's got two more years to prove if he can play at an elite level. If he does, he's obviously going to get paid, and if BA also looks great, I doubt we can afford to keep both. But at his current pace, he's playing good, but not enough to command a lot of money. If we can get for somewhere between that 8-10 mil range, that would be great.
Originally posted by 9moon:
I believe Deevah turned everyone OFF when he was laughing to whatever JET was saying in his exit selfie out of SF !!

Huh? Why would Deebo laughing at what McKinnon say turn everyone off, jesus, I swear you make no sense most of the time. And enough of these dumbass nicknames, Deevah? WTF?
Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
Sadly, I agree that e can't pay everyone, and Deebo is only locked up for 2 more years. I will cross that road when it comes, but if after this season we try to work out a long term deal with Deebo, and he wants ridiculous money, I would start looking at a replacement for him in next years draft. I am always down for keeping who we can when we can, but we're paying top dollar to quite a few positions, and Bosa is gonna cost a lot of $$$ to keep. WR might be a position that we draft 1-2 every year, and just kind of recycle out the bad ones, and let the guys who want top dollar walk in FA.

This is basically what we need to do at RB, we can find good ones as UDFA's. I would draft a RB every year in the mid to late rounds, and recycle them as they become FA's, because Shanahan has proven he can find contributions from next man up mentality.

Once Jimmy's contract is gone the team will have to needed room to pay Warner, Deebo & Dre in 2022, then in 2023 Bosa, 2024 Aiyuk & Kinlaw, remember the cap is going to explode by 2024, some think it will in 2023. The team has 23 players signed for 2022(really 22 when Richburg retires, we gain $9.15M), after factoring in the top 51 rule, we'd be at $18.333M, but you need to subtract the 2021 draft class, so closer to $4M, then you save $25.6M when you move on from Jimmy, you can save over $9M by restructuring Kittle's deal, over $10M redoing Armstead's deal, $7.5M by cutting Ward. The 49ers have, besides Warner, literally no big FAs next offseason, if Verrett, K'Waun, Jones, Wilson, Mostert, Laken, McGlinchey, Tartt, Moore can prove themselves then they can easily bring them back, I'm nowhere near as worried about 2022 as I was about 2021, despite saying that we could bring back most of our own FAs, I was still expecting to see K'Waun and even Juice bolt, didn't happen. All in all, the 49ers could have around $50M in cap room next offseason, less with a Warner extension, which I'd expect to cost just $5.5M like Kittle's does, so let's say close to $44.5M in cap room, they can use cap room to extend Deebo & Dre, even Bosa may get extended next offseason.

Originally posted by jimmy3233:
i'd pay to keep him even if we have to overpay a little. team looked completely different without him in the lineup. Aiyuk and Deebo should be kept at all costs IMO. Cuts/trades can be made with overpaid players like Ward/Armstead.

Agreed, you pay Aiyuk & Deebo, Aiyuk will/should get more, I think Aiyuk will come in around the $15M a yr range, Deebo $12M a yr, and I'd do that in a heart beat, if Curtis Samuel can get $11.5M a yr, then Deebo and Aiyuk should too. I don't buy anything about the 49ers not wanting to give a new deal to Deebo, besides they can't yet anyway. If this is all from Cohn, f**k him, he's stiring s**t up, that's all he does, clickbait, to get views, only reason he has a job is cause of his Daddy.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
Sadly, I agree that e can't pay everyone, and Deebo is only locked up for 2 more years. I will cross that road when it comes, but if after this season we try to work out a long term deal with Deebo, and he wants ridiculous money, I would start looking at a replacement for him in next years draft. I am always down for keeping who we can when we can, but we're paying top dollar to quite a few positions, and Bosa is gonna cost a lot of $$$ to keep. WR might be a position that we draft 1-2 every year, and just kind of recycle out the bad ones, and let the guys who want top dollar walk in FA.

This is basically what we need to do at RB, we can find good ones as UDFA's. I would draft a RB every year in the mid to late rounds, and recycle them as they become FA's, because Shanahan has proven he can find contributions from next man up mentality.

He's got two more years to prove if he can play at an elite level. If he does, he's obviously going to get paid, and if BA also looks great, I doubt we can afford to keep both. But at his current pace, he's playing good, but not enough to command a lot of money. If we can get for somewhere between that 8-10 mil range, that would be great.

I think Deebo's price tag is $12M a yr, if Curtis Samuel got $11.5M and Agholor too, then so should Deebo, Curtis is good, while Agholor hasn't done much of anything, had one good year last yr, then got overpaid by the Pats of all teams, a team who never spends or overpays for FAs, they usually let their own leave, they did with Thuney, I didn't expect them to go on a spending spree, Henry, Smith, Judon, Agholor, Bourne, Mills, Trent Brown trade, etc...
Deebo is going to be worth alot more than his market value will indicate. No reason to not keep him.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Deebo is going to be worth alot more than his market value will indicate. No reason to not keep him.

Like many have said if we get the right QB, and an OL who can protect that QB, and give the WRs time to get down the field, then both Aiyuk & Deebo will be dangerous, more so than they were in 2020. Aiyuk showed he can be a deep threat in 2020 on a few nice deep catches. You keep the following when they're deals are up for extensions.

Deebo
Aiyuk
Warner
Dre
Bosa
Kinlaw

In addition to

Kittle
Trent
Juice

Now we hope guys like Verrett, K'Waun, Jones, Ebukam, Mostert, Wilson, Moore, Laken, McGlinchey, Moseley, others on 1 or 2yr deals prove they're worth keeping past 2021 and 2022.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Like many have said if we get the right QB, and an OL who can protect that QB, and give the WRs time to get down the field, then both Aiyuk & Deebo will be dangerous, more so than they were in 2020. Aiyuk showed he can be a deep threat in 2020 on a few nice deep catches. You keep the following when they're deals are up for extensions.

Deebo
Aiyuk
Warner
Dre
Bosa
Kinlaw

In addition to

Kittle
Trent
Juice

Now we hope guys like Verrett, K'Waun, Jones, Ebukam, Mostert, Wilson, Moore, Laken, McGlinchey, Moseley, others on 1 or 2yr deals prove they're worth keeping past 2021 and 2022.

This is why it makes me sick to my stomach that they are even thinking of drafting Jones. He doesn't have that much of a stronger arm than Jimmy. Need to evolve the offense, our WR's and Kittle.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Like many have said if we get the right QB, and an OL who can protect that QB, and give the WRs time to get down the field, then both Aiyuk & Deebo will be dangerous, more so than they were in 2020. Aiyuk showed he can be a deep threat in 2020 on a few nice deep catches. You keep the following when they're deals are up for extensions.

Deebo
Aiyuk
Warner
Dre
Bosa
Kinlaw

In addition to

Kittle
Trent
Juice

Now we hope guys like Verrett, K'Waun, Jones, Ebukam, Mostert, Wilson, Moore, Laken, McGlinchey, Moseley, others on 1 or 2yr deals prove they're worth keeping past 2021 and 2022.

This is why it makes me sick to my stomach that they are even thinking of drafting Jones. He doesn't have that much of a stronger arm than Jimmy. Need to evolve the offense, our WR's and Kittle.

Just doing their due diligence on what is ultimately a lateral move. I don't think they want to make a lateral move with this pick.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
Sadly, I agree that e can't pay everyone, and Deebo is only locked up for 2 more years. I will cross that road when it comes, but if after this season we try to work out a long term deal with Deebo, and he wants ridiculous money, I would start looking at a replacement for him in next years draft. I am always down for keeping who we can when we can, but we're paying top dollar to quite a few positions, and Bosa is gonna cost a lot of $$$ to keep. WR might be a position that we draft 1-2 every year, and just kind of recycle out the bad ones, and let the guys who want top dollar walk in FA.

This is basically what we need to do at RB, we can find good ones as UDFA's. I would draft a RB every year in the mid to late rounds, and recycle them as they become FA's, because Shanahan has proven he can find contributions from next man up mentality.

He's got two more years to prove if he can play at an elite level. If he does, he's obviously going to get paid, and if BA also looks great, I doubt we can afford to keep both. But at his current pace, he's playing good, but not enough to command a lot of money. If we can get for somewhere between that 8-10 mil range, that would be great.


Originally posted by jimmy3233:
i'd pay to keep him even if we have to overpay a little. team looked completely different without him in the lineup. Aiyuk and Deebo should be kept at all costs IMO. Cuts/trades can be made with overpaid players like Ward/Armstead.


Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Deebo is going to be worth alot more than his market value will indicate. No reason to not keep him.

Like many have said if we get the right QB, and an OL who can protect that QB, and give the WRs time to get down the field, then both Aiyuk & Deebo will be dangerous, more so than they were in 2020. Aiyuk showed he can be a deep threat in 2020 on a few nice deep catches. You keep the following when they're deals are up for extensions.

Deebo
Aiyuk
Warner
Dre
Bosa
Kinlaw

In addition to

Kittle
Trent
Juice

Now we hope guys like Verrett, K'Waun, Jones, Ebukam, Mostert, Wilson, Moore, Laken, McGlinchey, Moseley, others on 1 or 2yr deals prove they're worth keeping past 2021 and 2022.

Of course AB beats me to it and you are the expert in this, but I was going to add again that we absolutely can keep Deebo. Beyond his skillset, he brings another element to the team. The kind of "it" factor that you can't just find in any player. Yes, I'd absolutely be on board for the 49ers paying 10-13 million per year for that.

Next year, he is eligible for extension, so you begin the talks. Deebo screams a team guy that absolutely wants to be here so that's a plus. Hard worker, linebacker/bruising RB mentality at WR, which is just good for the wide receiver room, and a hard worker. I compared it to Boldin and Fitzgerald. You find a way to keep guys like that. I'd rather try my hand at replacing talent elsewhere. By the time Deebo's contract is up, our rookie QB should be starting and we'd have three more years of them on the rookie deal. Aiyuk would still have two more years on his rookie deal. Bosa would have one. Kinlaw would have two. This is all assuming that every first round pick pans out, which is the best case scenario, as well as the most expensive one. By the 2023 season, the only players on big contracts would be Trent, Kittle, Warner, and Greenlaw could have a nice deal as well. I'd expect AA to be gone, especially if it comes down to Deebo or AA. I expect Ward to be gone. Tartt will be gone. Williams (CB) will be gone. Our center of the future should be ready to go, so Alex Mack may be gone. Laken Tomlinson may be gone. We will see with Mike McGlinchey. I don't see a lot of money tied up in 2023, so that's one year where we could potentially frontload a contract for Deebo. Things get interesting in 2024, but we should also have significant cap space. I don't see any reason why we can't keep these cornerstone, special players, unless they are looking to break the bank. Kittle is one thing because he is legit the best at his position. But having a rookie QB (Fields ) totally opens things up, until 2026 lol. Keep those cornerstone guys and then we'd only have to focus on drafting role players and not necessarily guys we have to depend on.

I will say one thing, we will have to nail our corner and OL picks this year without any first rounders until 2024. Hopefully Jimmy plays well enough to recoup us one.
lol apparently Deebo said something about maybe switching to number 1 if that new rules passes. After he got a massive "19" tattooed on his back...
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