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Deebo Samuel-WR-South Carolina
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:20 AM
- PA49ersfan
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I can't believe he asked for a trade. Wtf.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:21 AM
- Sickaa
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Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Really over this dude now
I'm not. He's arguably the best football player in the NFL. And he's on our team. And we may let him walk
Most versatile. Definitely not the best.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:21 AM
- Rathof44
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Deebos first 2 years total: 1200 yds 4 td, 22 rush attemps
Shenault first 2 years total: 1200 yds, 5tds, 29 rush attempts.
Shenault first 2 years total: 1200 yds, 5tds, 29 rush attempts.
[ Edited by Rathof44 on Apr 20, 2022 at 11:21 AM ]
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:21 AM
- Ensatsu
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Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
What team even wants to trade for him if he doesn't want to play running back anymore? Only Saleh and the Jets might be interested because they know him.
Miami?
they just spent the farm on Tyreek, who is way better
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:21 AM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Idk when this video was taken but in it you can hear #49ers WR Deebo Samuel saying:
— Sterling Bennett (@49ers_Access) April 20, 2022
"I aint got no offer."
&
"George [kittle?] said them folks said they ain't going past $20M. You worth it but they ain't gunna give it to you."
🎥: @49ersfocus pic.twitter.com/y6lm3NRO8O
it's his agent not Kittle he's talking to
Wouldn't shock me if the FO short changed him and that's what started all of this.
Wouldn't surprise me either. I imagine Paraag tried to pay him as a top end running back.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:21 AM
- Waterbear
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Originally posted by Rathof44:
Deebos first 2 years total: 1200 yds 4 td, 22 rush attemps
Shenault first 2 years total: 1200 yds, 5tds, 29 rush attempts.
I'd take Shenault for sure. But I want a high first rounder this year.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:21 AM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Trade value chart info:
Using the old-school Jimmy Johnson chart, Green Bay received 1,150 points for Adams while Chiefs received 1,092 points (or 1,087, depending on which fourth-round pick was acquired) in 2022 compensation and perhaps another 64 points in 2023 compensation (subject to change, obviously) for possible total of 1,153 points. If that's the case, the trades would basically be a tie.
So we can get expect something like 1100 in comp. Pick 32 from Detroit is 590. Next years first if you assume as mid-round would be 1000 and if you discount 50% as a future selection it comes to 500. 500+590 = 1090 or right around 1100. This is how we get two first round picks for Deebo.
I see what you are selling on here, but the draft value chart was established to how picks are valued to other picks. The intention was never to compare the values to players.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:22 AM
- InfernoDaLuz
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Since Baalke wants all the wideouts, 33 65 1st(23) Shenault.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:22 AM
- OnTheClock
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Ugh.. Would've thought more negotiating tactics but IDK now.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:22 AM
- SFrush
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by swaccmac1:
The 9ers should trade Deebo to a team like Detroit with a caveat.... Get deebo but jimmy g goes with him. take a 1st round pick this year and a second rd in 2023 and get 2 headaches off the team.
Detroit already has a QB who costs way too much for what he brings to the table. Pretty sure they dont want another one. Imagine close to a $60M cap hit for a QB room of Goff and Jimmy. LMAOOOOO
Some of these ideas are so far fetched it's ridiculous. I read two other posts saying trade him for Chase Young or Jaire Alexander like that's remotely realistic.
[ Edited by SFrush on Apr 20, 2022 at 11:23 AM ]
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:23 AM
- random49er
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Originally posted by Brucey72:
To be fair if he wants to play WR only then that decreases his value for us. What made Deebo so good was his toughness and ability to be placed anywhere.
Deebo is my favorite player right now but I think I would rather have a couple 1st rounders and the 30 mil a year than Deebo without the rushing attempts and only as a receiver.
This issue has always perplexed me with him once it would become time to reup. Do you offer more less due to how much you ask him to run the ball? Or do you really insult him by offering less (since RBs get paid less)??
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:23 AM
- Cisco0623
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Trade value chart info:
Using the old-school Jimmy Johnson chart, Green Bay received 1,150 points for Adams while Chiefs received 1,092 points (or 1,087, depending on which fourth-round pick was acquired) in 2022 compensation and perhaps another 64 points in 2023 compensation (subject to change, obviously) for possible total of 1,153 points. If that's the case, the trades would basically be a tie.
So we can get expect something like 1100 in comp. Pick 32 from Detroit is 590. Next years first if you assume as mid-round would be 1000 and if you discount 50% as a future selection it comes to 500. 500+590 = 1090 or right around 1100. This is how we get two first round picks for Deebo.
I see what you are selling on here, but the draft value chart was established to how picks are valued to other picks. The intention was never to compare the values to players.
Agree me and Deebo is very young. He's worth 2-3 high picks. But oddly enough if he doesn't want to run than why would another team want him?
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:23 AM
- crabman82
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Fun times lol
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:23 AM
- ninersrule4
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Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Really over this dude now
I'm not. He's arguably the best football player in the NFL. And he's on our team. And we may let him walk
Yep. This is a f**king disaster. And people trying to spin it otherwise have blinders on.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:23 AM
- Rathof44
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Deebos first 2 years total: 1200 yds 4 td, 22 rush attemps
Shenault first 2 years total: 1200 yds, 5tds, 29 rush attempts.
I'd take Shenault for sure. But I want a high first rounder this year.
I think you could get Shenault for a 4th. They have a ton of WRs in Jax.