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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
They need to get rid of Jimmy G and his 26M first.

For the love of GOD I just don't understand why you keep harping on this. Here let me try and explain it the 10th time using new contracts Devonte Adams and Tyreke Hill just signed.

D Adams contract pays him a modest 8.1 million in 2022. In '23 it jumps to 30 million.
T Hill contract pays him a modest 6.5 million in 2022. In '23 it jumps to 30+ million.

Deebo is under contract for 4.9 million in 2022. The 49ers can easily structure his contract similar to where he still gets paid the 4.9 million in '22 and in '23 his contract will jump up like Adams and Hill's.

So in a nutshell, getting rid of Jimmy's contract would be nice but its not preventing the 49ers from extending Deebo. Once Jimmy G is traded they can easily go back and give Deebo more up front if that's what they want to do. And to blow your mind even further, they can reduce his '22 pay and move it out a couple years. If the money is guaranteed it just doesn't matter.

Brain damage lol

If money isn't the issue than why haven't they extended him yet? If money isn't the issue than why is Deebo upset?

Ignorance is bliss.

Sorry to inform you Jimmy fans, Jimmy is leaving.
I think Jimmy is a good QB but just not good enough to carry the team to winning a SB, as he has proven that, and is super injury prone, they already dumped a bunch of draft capital for his replacement and from what I have seen so far, Trey looks to be a franchise QB so bye Jimmy, time is up and your money 26M+ will be used and useful else where, if it goes to keeping deebo it won't be WASTED.
[ Edited by ChillninDaBay on Apr 28, 2022 at 8:44 AM ]
Originally posted by Brucey72:
You would think that the team trading for Deebo would want the trade finalized before the draft starts tonight. Mainly because they would want to make sure Deebo is going to sign that extension with them before they send it in to league. If it is agreed upon during the draft they risk the chance of not getting to talk to him before finalizing the trade. Seems awfully risky for the team.

I expect the teams that want him will put out their best offer hours before the draft. Tell the 49ers to take it or leave it. Not saying that the trade would be announced before the draft but it would have to be agreed.

The 49ers if they are willing to trade Deebo which I do not think they are going to trade him but if they are may have a certain player in mind they want and will only trade Deebo if said player is available at the pick they are trading for. It's not like last year where we knew Lawrence was going 1 and Saleh probably told Kyle that Wilson is going 2 so trading up to 3 prior to the draft was more strategy to make sure no one else trades up for that pick.
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Deebos best football as a 49er is behind him. I don't see a disgruntled superstar sacrificing his body if he hasn't been paid for it, and I don't see a paid superstar sacrificing his health when he doesn't want to be used as a wrecking ball anymore. And even if he did decide to completely forget all this mess and re-dedicate himself to the team…. He's gonna get hurt if we keep using him in that capacity

He was (past tense) our best player. He is no longer our best player.

Trade this dude and stop dwelling on the past. "Offensive weapons" like Deebo, Percy, Leveon etc are flashes in the pan. That's the whole reason he doesn't want to be used that way…it shortens your career.

Solely as a receiver he's slightly above average… wouldn't be a number one on any other team in our division.

And that's what he wants to be… a receiver. And I don't blame him.

There's every chance he could be making business decisions out on the field next season If he stills feel disrespected by the 9ers. Hopefully it doesn't come down to that, but If reports are true and Deebo wants no part of this organisation anymore, then it would most likely make sense for the 9ers and Deebo to part ways. Trade him or extend him. It's as simple as that.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Brucey72:
You would think that the team trading for Deebo would want the trade finalized before the draft starts tonight. Mainly because they would want to make sure Deebo is going to sign that extension with them before they send it in to league. If it is agreed upon during the draft they risk the chance of not getting to talk to him before finalizing the trade. Seems awfully risky for the team.

I expect the teams that want him will put out their best offer hours before the draft. Tell the 49ers to take it or leave it. Not saying that the trade would be announced before the draft but it would have to be agreed.

The 49ers if they are willing to trade Deebo which I do not think they are going to trade him but if they are may have a certain player in mind they want and will only trade Deebo if said player is available at the pick they are trading for. It's not like last year where we knew Lawrence was going 1 and Saleh probably told Kyle that Wilson is going 2 so trading up to 3 prior to the draft was more strategy to make sure no one else trades up for that pick.

Yup, I live in NYC and the rumor is we have a deal in place with the Jets IF pick 10 falls the way we desire.

So there's two parts to that thinking:
1. Never tip your hand because if you trade now another team could leapfrog and take the guy you want.

2.As the rumor says- if your guy isnt there then no trade anyways.

I don't know what to believe, but lets assume its true, not sure who we would want there?
[ Edited by Cisco0623 on Apr 28, 2022 at 8:46 AM ]
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Brucey72:
You would think that the team trading for Deebo would want the trade finalized before the draft starts tonight. Mainly because they would want to make sure Deebo is going to sign that extension with them before they send it in to league. If it is agreed upon during the draft they risk the chance of not getting to talk to him before finalizing the trade. Seems awfully risky for the team.

I expect the teams that want him will put out their best offer hours before the draft. Tell the 49ers to take it or leave it. Not saying that the trade would be announced before the draft but it would have to be agreed.

The 49ers if they are willing to trade Deebo which I do not think they are going to trade him but if they are may have a certain player in mind they want and will only trade Deebo if said player is available at the pick they are trading for. It's not like last year where we knew Lawrence was going 1 and Saleh probably told Kyle that Wilson is going 2 so trading up to 3 prior to the draft was more strategy to make sure no one else trades up for that pick.

I agree it is better for the 49ers to wait but not the other team. The team trading for him could possibly screw themselves by trading for a player they haven't talked to bc they might not be willing to sign an extension with them. They could easily withdraw their offer if not done by a certain time. You can have a trade in place but be contingent on if the player is available. Or have a trade agreed upon but not announced.

If I'm the 49ers I don't want to trade him either.
[ Edited by Brucey72 on Apr 28, 2022 at 8:47 AM ]
Originally posted by Brucey72:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Brucey72:
You would think that the team trading for Deebo would want the trade finalized before the draft starts tonight. Mainly because they would want to make sure Deebo is going to sign that extension with them before they send it in to league. If it is agreed upon during the draft they risk the chance of not getting to talk to him before finalizing the trade. Seems awfully risky for the team.

I expect the teams that want him will put out their best offer hours before the draft. Tell the 49ers to take it or leave it. Not saying that the trade would be announced before the draft but it would have to be agreed.

The 49ers if they are willing to trade Deebo which I do not think they are going to trade him but if they are may have a certain player in mind they want and will only trade Deebo if said player is available at the pick they are trading for. It's not like last year where we knew Lawrence was going 1 and Saleh probably told Kyle that Wilson is going 2 so trading up to 3 prior to the draft was more strategy to make sure no one else trades up for that pick.

I agree it is better for the 49ers to wait but not the other team. The team trading for him could possibly screw themselves by trading for a player they haven't talked to bc they might not be willing to sign an extension with them. They could easily withdraw their offer if not done by a certain time.

If I'm the 49ers I don't want to trade him either.

In my eyes the 49ers hold all the cards so whatever is best for the 49ers is what's gonna happen.
I have a feeling the 9ers are gonna trade away Deebo just before the Jets are on the clock.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Brucey72:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Brucey72:
You would think that the team trading for Deebo would want the trade finalized before the draft starts tonight. Mainly because they would want to make sure Deebo is going to sign that extension with them before they send it in to league. If it is agreed upon during the draft they risk the chance of not getting to talk to him before finalizing the trade. Seems awfully risky for the team.

I expect the teams that want him will put out their best offer hours before the draft. Tell the 49ers to take it or leave it. Not saying that the trade would be announced before the draft but it would have to be agreed.

The 49ers if they are willing to trade Deebo which I do not think they are going to trade him but if they are may have a certain player in mind they want and will only trade Deebo if said player is available at the pick they are trading for. It's not like last year where we knew Lawrence was going 1 and Saleh probably told Kyle that Wilson is going 2 so trading up to 3 prior to the draft was more strategy to make sure no one else trades up for that pick.

I agree it is better for the 49ers to wait but not the other team. The team trading for him could possibly screw themselves by trading for a player they haven't talked to bc they might not be willing to sign an extension with them. They could easily withdraw their offer if not done by a certain time.

If I'm the 49ers I don't want to trade him either.

In my eyes the 49ers hold all the cards so whatever is best for the 49ers is what's gonna happen.

No matter what happens I think the trade isn't announced until the pick is on the clock. If I'm the 49ers I make sure that the teams knows if they leaked it then the trade is off. I'm just saying I think it will be agreed upon before the draft starts. I hope no trade happens.
[ Edited by Brucey72 on Apr 28, 2022 at 8:50 AM ]
Originally posted by Brucey72:
You would think that the team trading for Deebo would want the trade finalized before the draft starts tonight. Mainly because they would want to make sure Deebo is going to sign that extension with them before they send it in to league. If it is agreed upon during the draft they risk the chance of not getting to talk to him before finalizing the trade. Seems awfully risky for the team.

I expect the teams that want him will put out their best offer hours before the draft. Tell the 49ers to take it or leave it. Not saying that the trade would be announced before the draft but it would have to be agreed.

I would think the Niners may wait till they see who is available at 10 before they make the trade.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Brucey72:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Brucey72:
You would think that the team trading for Deebo would want the trade finalized before the draft starts tonight. Mainly because they would want to make sure Deebo is going to sign that extension with them before they send it in to league. If it is agreed upon during the draft they risk the chance of not getting to talk to him before finalizing the trade. Seems awfully risky for the team.

I expect the teams that want him will put out their best offer hours before the draft. Tell the 49ers to take it or leave it. Not saying that the trade would be announced before the draft but it would have to be agreed.

The 49ers if they are willing to trade Deebo which I do not think they are going to trade him but if they are may have a certain player in mind they want and will only trade Deebo if said player is available at the pick they are trading for. It's not like last year where we knew Lawrence was going 1 and Saleh probably told Kyle that Wilson is going 2 so trading up to 3 prior to the draft was more strategy to make sure no one else trades up for that pick.

I agree it is better for the 49ers to wait but not the other team. The team trading for him could possibly screw themselves by trading for a player they haven't talked to bc they might not be willing to sign an extension with them. They could easily withdraw their offer if not done by a certain time.

If I'm the 49ers I don't want to trade him either.

In my eyes the 49ers hold all the cards so whatever is best for the 49ers is what's gonna happen.

It would be best for the 9ers to keep deebo and allow him to continue to perform like he did last season. If that means Jimmy and his 26M+ needs to go and not be wasted, he needs to go, he's getting dumped anyway. If it means they need to pay deebo a big new contract, that needs to happen.

Simple as that. The NFL as a business is about winning and winning the SB each year. It's not about losing or paying players to under perform or sit on their asses.
[ Edited by ChillninDaBay on Apr 28, 2022 at 8:56 AM ]
All I know is that I am annoyed that I will be watching the draft tonight. Wasn't planning on watching Round 1 this year. But I am definitely watching and hoping I don't see any Deebo trade. Bc that means he is getting an extension most likely.
Originally posted by Brucey72:
All I know is that I am annoyed that I will be watching the draft tonight. Wasn't planning on watching Round 1 this year. But I am definitely watching and hoping I don't see any Deebo trade. Bc that means he is getting an extension most likely.

I never watch the draft. Its boring. I wait until its over then research the players we have selected.
Originally posted by Brucey72:
All I know is that I am annoyed that I will be watching the draft tonight. Wasn't planning on watching Round 1 this year. But I am definitely watching and hoping I don't see any Deebo trade. Bc that means he is getting an extension most likely.
So many doors to close in the Deebo saga, and draft day 1 is just one of those doors
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Apr 28, 2022 at 8:58 AM ]
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Yup, I live in NYC and the rumor is we have a deal in place with the Jets IF pick 10 falls the way we desire.

So there's two parts to that thinking:
1. Never tip your hand because if you trade now another team could leapfrog and take the guy you want.

2.As the rumor says- if your guy isnt there then no trade anyways.

I don't know what to believe, but lets assume its true, not sure who we would want there?

Well. It better include 35 and 38 as well. Only guys maybe still available at 10 that would be worth it: Stingley, Hamilton, or Cross IMO. Otherwise trade down for more picks.
[ Edited by Rathof44 on Apr 28, 2022 at 9:01 AM ]
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Yup, I live in NYC and the rumor is we have a deal in place with the Jets IF pick 10 falls the way we desire.

So there's two parts to that thinking:
1. Never tip your hand because if you trade now another team could leapfrog and take the guy you want.

2.As the rumor says- if your guy isnt there then no trade anyways.

I don't know what to believe, but lets assume its true, not sure who we would want there?

I don't buy that because usually they want a physical done (from their doctors) and in this case an extension signed for insurance that the player will stay with the team.

I think it would be one of Stingley/Hamilton or Johnson as "the guy" they want there
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