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Originally posted by ltrain:
I was thinking Metcalf wouldn't be worth the 10 spot if they are offering that for Deebo. Then I looked at Metcalf's career stats versus Deebo and Metcalf has better stats at this point.

Russ throwing you the ball =/= Jimmy throwing you the ball
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:
Originally posted by ltrain:
I was thinking Metcalf wouldn't be worth the 10 spot if they are offering that for Deebo. Then I looked at Metcalf's career stats versus Deebo and Metcalf has better stats at this point.

Russ throwing you the ball =/= Jimmy throwing you the ball

Metcalf has serious attitude concern on the field. Tantrums, etc. Deebo couldn't be further from that!
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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by thl408:
For real? If Deebo signs a contract extension then the signing bonus counts towards the 2022 cap?

Yes

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Signing bonuses spread over first 5 years of contract.

Who is correct? Because these are two different answers.
Originally posted by thl408:
Who is correct?

Both
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
My guess is that Deebo specifically asked for the money that is earmarked for Jimmy G. He doesn't just want $25 million, he specifically wants that $25 million and he knows he can't have it if Jimmy remains on the roster, so he had no choice but to request a trade. Sad situation and, besides Jimmy, no one is to blame for it.

Jimmy didn't carried the team on offense last season, deebo did. Jimmy didn't even make the probowl, so should Jimmy's 26M+ go to deebo? Yes probably, since they already have his replacement in Trey.
Originally posted by krizay:
For those who keep saying Jimmy G isn't holding up Deebo.

For example, following the 2014 season when Marshawn Lynch signed his contract extension in early 2015, the extension covered two seasons (2016 and 2017) on top of the 2015 season for which Lynch was already under contract. Thus, it was effectively a three year contract which he signed at that time, and the $7.5M signing bonus which he received was to be recognized against the salary cap in three equal parts of $2.5M in 2015, $2.5M in 2016 and $2.5M in 2017.

Aaron Rodgers recently signed a five-year extension with a $35 million signing bonus to extend his contract though the 2019 season. With the signing bonus for the extension, it actually impacts the cap every year of his entire contract, rather than just the years extended. This means that Rodgers' signing bonus will be worth $5 million against the cap each year for the next seven years. Any previous signing bonus will still count for the years under the previous contract.

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[ Edited by krizay on Apr 28, 2022 at 10:45 AM ]
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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by thl408:
Who is correct?

Both

That's impossible. If Deebo signs an extension, it won't count until 2023.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by thl408:
For real? If Deebo signs a contract extension then the signing bonus counts towards the 2022 cap?

Yes

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Signing bonuses spread over first 5 years of contract.

Who is correct? Because these are two different answers.

How is that 2 different answers?
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by thl408:
For real? If Deebo signs a contract extension then the signing bonus counts towards the 2022 cap?

Yes

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Signing bonuses spread over first 5 years of contract.

Who is correct? Because these are two different answers.

Lol some people care more to be correct due to toxic ego. Ignorance is bliss, life is short.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by thl408:
Who is correct?

Both

That's impossible. If Deebo signs an extension, it won't count until 2023.

Not if he is paid the signing bonus this year its not.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by thl408:
Who is correct?

Both

That's impossible. If Deebo signs an extension, it won't count until 2023.

Wrong
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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by krizay:
For those who keep saying Jimmy G isn't holding up Deebo.

For example, following the 2014 season when Marshawn Lynch signed his contract extension in early 2015, the extension covered two seasons (2016 and 2017) on top of the 2015 season for which Lynch was already under contract. Thus, it was effectively a three year contract which he signed at that time, and the $7.5M signing bonus which he received was to be recognized against the salary cap in three equal parts of $2.5M in 2015, $2.5M in 2016 and $2.5M in 2017.

Aaron Rodgers recently signed a five-year extension with a $35 million signing bonus to extend his contract though the 2019 season. With the signing bonus for the extension, it actually impacts the cap every year of his entire contract, rather than just the years extended. This means that Rodgers' signing bonus will be worth $5 million against the cap each year for the next seven years. Any previous signing bonus will still count for the years under the previous contract.

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Ohh thanks. I kept thinking any extension, and cap hits associated with that extension, wouldn't count until the extension took effect.
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by thl408:
Deebo has a contract for 2022 - it will pay him $4 and it will not be changing. If he signs a fat ass contract extension, he's still being paid $4 in 2022.

This will be ignored for the 723rd time

Have fun arguing over nothing, blocked this time for sure. Bye bye.

My favorite post you have ever made. Couldnt be prouder to be blocked by you. Maybe now you will stop responding to me with nonsense.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by krizay:
For those who keep saying Jimmy G isn't holding up Deebo.

For example, following the 2014 season when Marshawn Lynch signed his contract extension in early 2015, the extension covered two seasons (2016 and 2017) on top of the 2015 season for which Lynch was already under contract. Thus, it was effectively a three year contract which he signed at that time, and the $7.5M signing bonus which he received was to be recognized against the salary cap in three equal parts of $2.5M in 2015, $2.5M in 2016 and $2.5M in 2017.

Aaron Rodgers recently signed a five-year extension with a $35 million signing bonus to extend his contract though the 2019 season. With the signing bonus for the extension, it actually impacts the cap every year of his entire contract, rather than just the years extended. This means that Rodgers' signing bonus will be worth $5 million against the cap each year for the next seven years. Any previous signing bonus will still count for the years under the previous contract.

Bump

Ohh thanks. I kept thinking any extension, and cap hits associated with that extension, wouldn't count until the extension took effect.

Interesting. Thanks Kriz. So basically the signing bonus is the hold up for a Deebo extension then.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Apr 28, 2022 at 10:48 AM ]
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by krizay:
For those who keep saying Jimmy G isn't holding up Deebo.

For example, following the 2014 season when Marshawn Lynch signed his contract extension in early 2015, the extension covered two seasons (2016 and 2017) on top of the 2015 season for which Lynch was already under contract. Thus, it was effectively a three year contract which he signed at that time, and the $7.5M signing bonus which he received was to be recognized against the salary cap in three equal parts of $2.5M in 2015, $2.5M in 2016 and $2.5M in 2017.

Aaron Rodgers recently signed a five-year extension with a $35 million signing bonus to extend his contract though the 2019 season. With the signing bonus for the extension, it actually impacts the cap every year of his entire contract, rather than just the years extended. This means that Rodgers' signing bonus will be worth $5 million against the cap each year for the next seven years. Any previous signing bonus will still count for the years under the previous contract.

Bump

Ohh thanks. I kept thinking any extension, and cap hits associated with that extension, wouldn't count until the extension took effect.

Jimmy still not holding it up though. Long run your correct. We have other ways to make it work. Cutting Jimmy would make it easier but not the only option.
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