Deebo Samuel-WR-South Carolina

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.

Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?

read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year

Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.

As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Cowherd just proposed this trade if it had to happen. Jets get Deebo for picks #10, #38 and next years 3rd rounder. Is that enough? I'd seriously consider that one.

hahah, AT LEAST TWO 1sts!

Nope not enough, would want 10, one of their 2nd's, their 3rd, a 2023 day 2 pick, and Elijah Moore, or if no Moore, then a 2023 1st instead of a day 2 pick, then we can start talking, but I rather we don't trade him, and we work whatever needs to be worked out with him.

That would be considered daylight robbery. No way the Jets give up all of that for receiver. That would be a crazy haul. I think a 10th, swap 2nd round picks and maybe a future 2nd would be more realistic.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.

Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?

read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year

Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.

As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.

Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.

Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?

read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/george-kittle-21888/

He signed his extension in August of 2020 if you look at his signing bonus numbers you'll notice his 2020 matches the next 4 years while adding the previous bonus from his rookie deal.

So what you read appears incorrect

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Can't wait til Deebo is extended with the 49ers and all this is in the past.

An extension announced by Rapaport right as the Jets go on the clock with number 10. Make it happen Paraag!

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.

Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?

read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year

Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.

As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.

Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.

Nothing to do with each other.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Now that would be awesome.

AND impossible

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
My guess is that Deebo specifically asked for the money that is earmarked for Jimmy G. He doesn't just want $25 million, he specifically wants that $25 million and he knows he can't have it if Jimmy remains on the roster, so he had no choice but to request a trade. Sad situation and, besides Jimmy, no one is to blame for it.

Even Deebo's problems are blamed on on Jimmy G now. Wow.

I have nothing against Jimmy and have been one of his biggest supporters, but generally everything bad that has happened to this franchise over the last few years can be traced back to him.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Cowherd just proposed this trade if it had to happen. Jets get Deebo for picks #10, #38 and next years 3rd rounder. Is that enough? I'd seriously consider that one.

hahah, AT LEAST TWO 1sts!

Nope not enough, would want 10, one of their 2nd's, their 3rd, a 2023 day 2 pick, and Elijah Moore, or if no Moore, then a 2023 1st instead of a day 2 pick, then we can start talking, but I rather we don't trade him, and we work whatever needs to be worked out with him.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.

Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?

read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/george-kittle-21888/

He signed his extension in August of 2020 if you look at his signing bonus numbers you'll notice his 2020 matches the next 4 years while adding the previous bonus from his rookie deal.

So what you read appears incorrect

looks like Warner

No, the 49ers won't need a lot of 2022 salary-cap space to extend Nick Bosa and Deebo Samuel.

They recently awarded Fred Warner a record contract without raising his 2021 cap hit by a single cent. Signing/option/buyback bonus combo set to be as reliable as ever given revenue ⬆️

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) March 23, 2022

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.

Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?

read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year

Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.

As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.

Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.

Nothing to do with each other.

So what is holding up the extension?

Originally posted by pdc20:
They wait to cut Jimmy G because of the 7.5 millions injury guarantee and nothing else.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by Jcool:

From NFL Draft Kickoff: Time is running out for a trade of #49ers WR Deebo Samuel, a complicated deal that would need mulitple parties in line before it happened. pic.twitter.com/UrpTBe9Jkk

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 28, 2022

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Cowherd just proposed this trade if it had to happen. Jets get Deebo for picks #10, #38 and next years 3rd rounder. Is that enough? I'd seriously consider that one.

hahah, AT LEAST TWO 1sts!

Nope not enough, would want 10, one of their 2nd's, their 3rd, a 2023 day 2 pick, and Elijah Moore, or if no Moore, then a 2023 1st instead of a day 2 pick, then we can start talking, but I rather we don't trade him, and we work whatever needs to be worked out with him.

That would be considered daylight robbery. No way the Jets give up all of that for receiver. That would be a crazy haul. I think a 10th, swap 2nd round picks and maybe a future 2nd would be more realistic.

But that would be the definition of an offer we cannot refuse.