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krizay
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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.
Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?
read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/george-kittle-21888/
He signed his extension in August of 2020 if you look at his signing bonus numbers you'll notice his 2020 matches the next 4 years while adding the previous bonus from his rookie deal.
So what you read appears incorrect
looks like Warner
Not correct. He signed a 5 year deal 12.320 signing bonus. Which averages 2.464 million
Look at his signing bonus numbers.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/fred-warner-25169/#:~:text=Fred%20Warner%20signed%20a%205,average%20annual%20salary%20of%20%2419%2C045%2C000.
Base salary doesn't change cap hit does
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BMoore56
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.
Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?
read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year
Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.
As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.
Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.
Nothing to do with each other.
So what is holding up the extension?
Most likely worried about the draft first. We have no reason to rush an extension.
He doesn't want to be here people lol
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Jubwub88
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This deebo problem is like the current housing situation. I wanna sell, and know its the right thing to do because prices will never be this high again but i have doubts. What if I cant replace my house. What if the market continues on like this. What if it takes years for me to get one. And all these thoughts knowing it has to go down because it is way overvalued and a recession is looming.
I know the right thing to do is to trade him for the picks if the package is good enough but its so damn scary.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Jcool:
You ain't going nowhere Deebo you might as well sign that extension!!!!
Sign it, and like it
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YACBros85
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.
Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?
read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year
Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.
As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.
Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.
Nothing to do with each other.
So what is holding up the extension?
Most likely worried about the draft first. We have no reason to rush an extension.
What does Paraag have to do with the draft?
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YACBros85
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Originally posted by BMoore56:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.
Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?
read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year
Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.
As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.
Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.
Nothing to do with each other.
So what is holding up the extension?
Most likely worried about the draft first. We have no reason to rush an extension.
He doesn't want to be here people lol
Are you kidding me? Why would Deebo not want to play for Shanahan anymore?
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ChillninDaBay
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https://youtu.be/3nQ2bCYHcrM
Pay the kid with Jimmy's Bill, GG.
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Strwy2Hevn
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.
Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?
read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year
Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.
As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.
Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.
Nothing to do with each other.
So what is holding up the extension?
Most likely worried about the draft first. We have no reason to rush an extension.
What does Paraag have to do with the draft?
You think he's the only one in negotiations for a top player?
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FL9er
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Less than 6 hours to add 55 more pages. You guys have a busy afternoon;).
In all seriousness, I do not understand why fans want Deebo traded? If he wants out, that is understandable, but he is a great player. Draft picks are such an unknown.
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Strwy2Hevn
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Originally posted by BMoore56:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.
Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?
read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year
Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.
As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.
Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.
Nothing to do with each other.
So what is holding up the extension?
Most likely worried about the draft first. We have no reason to rush an extension.
He doesn't want to be here people lol
Don't believe that for a second.
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YACBros85
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.
Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?
read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year
Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.
As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.
Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.
Nothing to do with each other.
So what is holding up the extension?
Most likely worried about the draft first. We have no reason to rush an extension.
What does Paraag have to do with the draft?
You think he's the only one in negotiations for a top player?
I am pretty sure that he is the man, with a capital M, when it comes to 49er player and personnel contracts.
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Strwy2Hevn
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.
Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?
read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year
Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.
As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.
Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.
Nothing to do with each other.
So what is holding up the extension?
Most likely worried about the draft first. We have no reason to rush an extension.
What does Paraag have to do with the draft?
You think he's the only one in negotiations for a top player?
I am pretty sure that he is the man, with a capital M, when it comes to 49er player and personnel contracts.
He is 100%. Still not the only guy in the room.
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Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by FL9er:
Less than 6 hours to add 55 more pages. You guys have a busy afternoon;).
In all seriousness, I do not understand why fans want Deebo traded? If he wants out, that is understandable, but he is a great player. Draft picks are such an unknown.
I definitely don't want us to trade him
if we do I hope it's for as much as possible, though. #10 overall by itself honestly won't be enough for me. That would basically be the Buckner trade all over again. About a 10% chance it actually works out.
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YACBros85
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.
Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?
read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year
Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.
As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.
Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.
Nothing to do with each other.
So what is holding up the extension?
Most likely worried about the draft first. We have no reason to rush an extension.
What does Paraag have to do with the draft?
You think he's the only one in negotiations for a top player?
I am pretty sure that he is the man, with a capital M, when it comes to 49er player and personnel contracts.
He is 100%. Still not the only guy in the room.
You're right. Deebo's agent would be the other guy in the room.
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Strwy2Hevn
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I know that the 2 situations aren't completely the same because Rodgers would get his previous signing bonus plus the new signing bonus. However, Deebo would still get his signing bonus this year if he signed an extension because it impacts the entire length of the contract and not just the extended years.
Cant signing bonuses be spread out however they want to be though?
read here that Warner and Kittle's extension didn't increase their cap hit in their final year
Warner's extension kept his 2021 salary cap number the same, Kittle's in 2020 was about $3M more, if Deebo were to extend his deal, they'd likely do what they did with Warner, since they don't have any cap room right now, or they redo Trent's deal, save $4.904M, but that'd be best done before the season, and then Deebo would get like a $15M signing bonus this year, then they could add in a $15M-$20M option bonus in 2023 that's protected, so he's GTD to get it, but if exercised, it prorates over the final years of the deal, if it's a 5yr extension, then it prorates over the final 5.
As for Rodgers, the Packers either didn't do a signing bonus, or they did back to back option bonuses, which isn't done much, or what we did with Warner, Trent, Kittle, etc.... The option bonus in year 2.
Everyone wants to bring up restructuring everyone elses deal and ignore the fact that Jimmy's contract is dead weight and the only reason why he is still on the roster is because of that injury clause. If it weren't for the injury clause, Jimmy would no longer be on the roster, the 26 million would be available and none of the past 3 weeks drama with Deebo would even exist.
Nothing to do with each other.
So what is holding up the extension?
Most likely worried about the draft first. We have no reason to rush an extension.
What does Paraag have to do with the draft?
You think he's the only one in negotiations for a top player?
I am pretty sure that he is the man, with a capital M, when it comes to 49er player and personnel contracts.
He is 100%. Still not the only guy in the room.
You're right. Deebo's agent would be the other guy in the room.
I would hope so.