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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:
I started feeling better last night about this whole thing, which tells me he is likely dealt today. Look, I think most of us, rationally and with the emotion of the past week behind us, would rather he stay, sign a contract, play like a beast, and help us capture number six. But his actions in the social media arena, his unwillingness to say whether he wants to stay or go, and the circus around the situation continues to point towards him not being with us moving forward. I wish it was otherwise, but it is not. If he does stay, and you are looking for a silver lining, Scottie Pippen remained on the final Bulls title team--though he missed time with an injury--and helped them win.

If he stays, maybe it is his last dance. But, I got to tell you brothers and sisters, it sure does not feel that way today. It feels like he is already gone. Whether the Niners accept that and decide to rationally get the most for him that they can is the remaining question. We will find out in a few more hours.

Lol... why so emotional?

He wants to get pay, pay him with Jimmy's money.

Easy peasy. Jimmy is leaving any way. That was the 9er FOs plan all along lol.. especially once Trey was drafted.

Because emotion and reason are the bedrocks of human existence.

Not when it doesn't concern your livihood. If it's about winning, they need to keep deebo at all cost really.

That is your opinion. Certainly, they rationally believe they need him. It is simple logic, Jim. BUT, they do not emotionally have to commit to him at all. And if he, emotionally has decided, I am done. Then it does not matter, now does it?

Reason and emotion, emotion and reason, my man. They are intertwined in all of the things we do. In fact, you could continually argue a point of view that you deem reasonable, but that really demonstrates your emotional commitment to an idea that is in fact wrong. Yet, you feel that you are being reasonable, when, in fact, you are not. You are being emotional.

For the record, I think a good bit of both is necessary to survive.

Never was about emotions, it's about money. If it is fated for him it will come regardless. He's breaking major generational curses if he gets his pay day with the 9ers or if traded with someone else. Did any of his ancestors have the ability, fortune, karma or destiny to break those generational curses as him now? No. Jimmy can't block that. Jimmy already got his. Jimmy should have already been traded, no he took his sweet time and got his surgery late on purpose. That's not going to stop deebo from getting pay and breaking generational curses..

But, you emotional fellow, you demonstrate both in your contentions. You say it is about money--rational. Though, I would counter the pursuit for more money does not always make us more rational. If anything, it may become an emotional contest to satisfy our need for fulfillment. You speak of his ancestors in racial tones. I, too, as a cultured person believe in what it could mean for him and his family. Here, I would say we have a "push", a little bit of reason and emotion. After all, it feels good to make it for the fam. But then, you betray yourself with Jimmy this, Jimmy that. Like Jim "Pornstar" GQ is the fault of all things. Weak sauce, sir. Very weak sauce, indeed. In fact, like the orbit of a moon, you keep coming back to Jim. I have seen it elsewhere. Why? That is what I mean by your rationale being driven by emotion.

Again, both are fine. Reason and emotion. You need both. It helps give life to your arguments. But you deny them. Tis like denying the air we breathe.

What emotions? It's call intuition and facts. Deebo wants money (aka signing bonuses and guaranteed money) and early. Jimmy is blocking by slowing a trade for him when his 2022 salary is 26M+ in total. 9ers have $861K cap space. 9er FO like any office doesn't want to pay more than necessary, other teams are exactly the same and always looking to take advantage of other teams cap space issues and stealing talented players away, that's nature of the NFL business. The more talented stars you have on your team the high chance you get to the SB.

Do you think another team wants to take on 26M+ when Jimmy can't even throw a ball right now? Even though he isn't a bad QB compare to other starters in the league and has SB, NFCC, play off experience and a high win %.
Who did that? Jimmy. Those other QB desperate teams are just waiting for 9ers to cut him in July so they don't need to take on the full 26M+.

Has it not been pointed out that new contract/extension for Deebo is still possible with Jimmy still around? You see, you make it about Jimmy. Sure, he plays a role, but your sole basis is that it is his fault.

Where is my cap master when I need him. AB, I need you.

100% accurate Jimmy has no bearing on Deebos contract

If Deebo is not traded tonight, the timeline of events shall tell the story. What comes first, Deebo's extension or cut/trade Jimmy?

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
The Deebo saga is taking all the attention away from the guys who worked so hard their whole life for this moment.

Nah, but it certainly is taking away from the Jimmy saga, which is good. If not for this, people would still be debating whether or not Jimmy gets traded today.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Different circumstances. Hill and Adams were traded cause their teams could not afford them anymore and had to ditch em now or lose em for nothing next year. We are no where near that with Deebo so if we are to trade him it's gotta literally be an offer that's to good to say no to.

The Packers could afford Adams, in fact they offered him more money than LV, he just wanted out. KC could've kept Hill if they wanted to, but not at what Miami's paying him.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

100% accurate Jimmy has no bearing on Deebos contract

It's not accurate regardless of what AB says. Tried using Kittle and Warner's contract as proof and it just isn't correct.

Wrong. We have other ways to make up salary cap. Jimmy is not our only option.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
100% accurate Jimmy has no bearing on Deebos contract

It's not accurate regardless of what AB says. Tried using Kittle and Warner's contract as proof and it just isn't correct.

Wrong. We have other ways to make up salary cap. Jimmy is not our only option.

Are these ways enough to extend Deebo and pay our rookies?

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If Deebo is not traded tonight, the timeline of events shall tell the story. What comes first, Deebo's extension or cut/trade Jimmy?

Not only that but right now Deebo's cap hit is 4.890 million. Once he is extended by whichever team I GUARANTEE it goes up.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

I started feeling better last night about this whole thing, which tells me he is likely dealt today. Look, I think most of us, rationally and with the emotion of the past week behind us, would rather he stay, sign a contract, play like a beast, and help us capture number six. But his actions in the social media arena, his unwillingness to say whether he wants to stay or go, and the circus around the situation continues to point towards him not being with us moving forward. I wish it was otherwise, but it is not. If he does stay, and you are looking for a silver lining, Scottie Pippen remained on the final Bulls title team--though he missed time with an injury--and helped them win.

If he stays, maybe it is his last dance. But, I got to tell you brothers and sisters, it sure does not feel that way today. It feels like he is already gone. Whether the Niners accept that and decide to rationally get the most for him that they can is the remaining question. We will find out in a few more hours.

Lol... why so emotional?

He wants to get pay, pay him with Jimmy's money.

Easy peasy. Jimmy is leaving any way. That was the 9er FOs plan all along lol.. especially once Trey was drafted.

Because emotion and reason are the bedrocks of human existence.

Not when it doesn't concern your livihood. If it's about winning, they need to keep deebo at all cost really.

That is your opinion. Certainly, they rationally believe they need him. It is simple logic, Jim. BUT, they do not emotionally have to commit to him at all. And if he, emotionally has decided, I am done. Then it does not matter, now does it?

Reason and emotion, emotion and reason, my man. They are intertwined in all of the things we do. In fact, you could continually argue a point of view that you deem reasonable, but that really demonstrates your emotional commitment to an idea that is in fact wrong. Yet, you feel that you are being reasonable, when, in fact, you are not. You are being emotional.

For the record, I think a good bit of both is necessary to survive.

Never was about emotions, it's about money. If it is fated for him it will come regardless. He's breaking major generational curses if he gets his pay day with the 9ers or if traded with someone else. Did any of his ancestors have the ability, fortune, karma or destiny to break those generational curses as him now? No. Jimmy can't block that. Jimmy already got his. Jimmy should have already been traded, no he took his sweet time and got his surgery late on purpose. That's not going to stop deebo from getting pay and breaking generational curses..

But, you emotional fellow, you demonstrate both in your contentions. You say it is about money--rational. Though, I would counter the pursuit for more money does not always make us more rational. If anything, it may become an emotional contest to satisfy our need for fulfillment. You speak of his ancestors in racial tones. I, too, as a cultured person believe in what it could mean for him and his family. Here, I would say we have a "push", a little bit of reason and emotion. After all, it feels good to make it for the fam. But then, you betray yourself with Jimmy this, Jimmy that. Like Jim "Pornstar" GQ is the fault of all things. Weak sauce, sir. Very weak sauce, indeed. In fact, like the orbit of a moon, you keep coming back to Jim. I have seen it elsewhere. Why? That is what I mean by your rationale being driven by emotion.

Again, both are fine. Reason and emotion. You need both. It helps give life to your arguments. But you deny them. Tis like denying the air we breathe.

What emotions? It's call intuition and facts. Deebo wants money (aka signing bonuses and guaranteed money) and early. Jimmy is blocking by slowing a trade for him when his 2022 salary is 26M+ in total. 9ers have $861K cap space. 9er FO like any office doesn't want to pay more than necessary, other teams are exactly the same and always looking to take advantage of other teams cap space issues and stealing talented players away, that's nature of the NFL business. The more talented stars you have on your team the high chance you get to the SB.

Do you think another team wants to take on 26M+ when Jimmy can't even throw a ball right now? Even though he isn't a bad QB compare to other starters in the league and has SB, NFCC, play off experience and a high win %.
Who did that? Jimmy. Those other QB desperate teams are just waiting for 9ers to cut him in July so they don't need to take on the full 26M+.

Has it not been pointed out that new contract/extension for Deebo is still possible with Jimmy still around? You see, you make it about Jimmy. Sure, he plays a role, but your sole basis is that it is his fault.

Where is my cap master when I need him. AB, I need you.

100% accurate Jimmy has no bearing on Deebos contract

If Deebo is not traded tonight, the timeline of events shall tell the story. What comes first, Deebo's extension or cut/trade Jimmy?

Will depend on any other restructures get done. I never said nothing needs done to sign him. But we have other options to clear cap space if needed. Its not Jimmy or nothing.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Wrong. We have other ways to make up salary cap. Jimmy is not our only option.

I'll give you that

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

100% accurate Jimmy has no bearing on Deebos contract

It's not accurate regardless of what AB says. Tried using Kittle and Warner's contract as proof and it just isn't correct.

Wrong. We have other ways to make up salary cap. Jimmy is not our only option.

Are these ways enough to extend Deebo and pay our rookies?

Yes we can clear up 10 million with 2 players. 16 M with 3 players. Never touch Jimmy.

Originally posted by FL9er:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Different circumstances. Hill and Adams were traded cause their teams could not afford them anymore and had to ditch em now or lose em for nothing next year. We are no where near that with Deebo so if we are to trade him it's gotta literally be an offer that's to good to say no to.

The Packers could afford Adams, in fact they offered him more money than LV, he just wanted out. KC could've kept Hill if they wanted to, but not at what Miami's paying him.

This. Adams just wanted out and money was not the deciding factor.

Has the Diva been traded yet?

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:
I started feeling better last night about this whole thing, which tells me he is likely dealt today. Look, I think most of us, rationally and with the emotion of the past week behind us, would rather he stay, sign a contract, play like a beast, and help us capture number six. But his actions in the social media arena, his unwillingness to say whether he wants to stay or go, and the circus around the situation continues to point towards him not being with us moving forward. I wish it was otherwise, but it is not. If he does stay, and you are looking for a silver lining, Scottie Pippen remained on the final Bulls title team--though he missed time with an injury--and helped them win.

If he stays, maybe it is his last dance. But, I got to tell you brothers and sisters, it sure does not feel that way today. It feels like he is already gone. Whether the Niners accept that and decide to rationally get the most for him that they can is the remaining question. We will find out in a few more hours.

Lol... why so emotional?

He wants to get pay, pay him with Jimmy's money.

Easy peasy. Jimmy is leaving any way. That was the 9er FOs plan all along lol.. especially once Trey was drafted.

Because emotion and reason are the bedrocks of human existence.

Not when it doesn't concern your livihood. If it's about winning, they need to keep deebo at all cost really.

That is your opinion. Certainly, they rationally believe they need him. It is simple logic, Jim. BUT, they do not emotionally have to commit to him at all. And if he, emotionally has decided, I am done. Then it does not matter, now does it?

Reason and emotion, emotion and reason, my man. They are intertwined in all of the things we do. In fact, you could continually argue a point of view that you deem reasonable, but that really demonstrates your emotional commitment to an idea that is in fact wrong. Yet, you feel that you are being reasonable, when, in fact, you are not. You are being emotional.

For the record, I think a good bit of both is necessary to survive.

Never was about emotions, it's about money. If it is fated for him it will come regardless. He's breaking major generational curses if he gets his pay day with the 9ers or if traded with someone else. Did any of his ancestors have the ability, fortune, karma or destiny to break those generational curses as him now? No. Jimmy can't block that. Jimmy already got his. Jimmy should have already been traded, no he took his sweet time and got his surgery late on purpose. That's not going to stop deebo from getting pay and breaking generational curses..

But, you emotional fellow, you demonstrate both in your contentions. You say it is about money--rational. Though, I would counter the pursuit for more money does not always make us more rational. If anything, it may become an emotional contest to satisfy our need for fulfillment. You speak of his ancestors in racial tones. I, too, as a cultured person believe in what it could mean for him and his family. Here, I would say we have a "push", a little bit of reason and emotion. After all, it feels good to make it for the fam. But then, you betray yourself with Jimmy this, Jimmy that. Like Jim "Pornstar" GQ is the fault of all things. Weak sauce, sir. Very weak sauce, indeed. In fact, like the orbit of a moon, you keep coming back to Jim. I have seen it elsewhere. Why? That is what I mean by your rationale being driven by emotion.

Again, both are fine. Reason and emotion. You need both. It helps give life to your arguments. But you deny them. Tis like denying the air we breathe.

What emotions? It's call intuition and facts. Deebo wants money (aka signing bonuses and guaranteed money) and early. Jimmy is blocking by slowing a trade for him when his 2022 salary is 26M+ in total. 9ers have $861K cap space. 9er FO like any office doesn't want to pay more than necessary, other teams are exactly the same and always looking to take advantage of other teams cap space issues and stealing talented players away, that's nature of the NFL business. The more talented stars you have on your team the high chance you get to the SB.

Do you think another team wants to take on 26M+ when Jimmy can't even throw a ball right now? Even though he isn't a bad QB compare to other starters in the league and has SB, NFCC, play off experience and a high win %.
Who did that? Jimmy. Those other QB desperate teams are just waiting for 9ers to cut him in July so they don't need to take on the full 26M+.

Has it not been pointed out that new contract/extension for Deebo is still possible with Jimmy still around? You see, you make it about Jimmy. Sure, he plays a role, but your sole basis is that it is his fault.

Where is my cap master when I need him. AB, I need you.

100% accurate Jimmy has no bearing on Deebos contract

If Deebo is not traded tonight, the timeline of events shall tell the story. What comes first, Deebo's extension or cut/trade Jimmy?

Will depend on any other restructures get done. I never said nothing needs done to sign him. But we have other options to clear cap space if needed. Its not Jimmy or nothing.

No but the FO has already restructured contracts in order to sign a few FA's this offseason. How many restructures do you think is plausible? When does it become detrimental to the future cap?

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
100% accurate Jimmy has no bearing on Deebos contract

It's not accurate regardless of what AB says. Tried using Kittle and Warner's contract as proof and it just isn't correct.

Fact is the 9ers were more than ready to move on and trade Jimmy G and his 26M+ 2022 salary away for draft picks and use that money and cap space for other players, EVERYONE knows that including deebo. Jimmy revenge blocked it with the late surgery, that's bad karma. He will be dumped in July. 9ers don't want to pay him and don't need to pay him. Deebo wants to get pay and he earned it. How the 9ers will handle hard ball by forcing deebo to play out his rookie contract or give him a big payday extension depends on negotiation if he doesn't get traded tonight, which if he did would be 10 steps backwards to getting back to the SB.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Different circumstances. Hill and Adams were traded cause their teams could not afford them anymore and had to ditch em now or lose em for nothing next year. We are no where near that with Deebo so if we are to trade him it's gotta literally be an offer that's to good to say no to.

Except we kind of are there. If reports are true we were at 19 but willing to go to 22. He wants at least 25 that makes us not able to afford him.

I know a lot of you say he deserves it and should get it. Most likely would be willing to go to 30.

Our front office feels differently. I for one agrees with the front office that he isn't worth that.

Which brings us to trade value. If the front office don't want to pay him like he's Adams or Hill why should we expect compensation that would be greater than Adams or Hill?

Good point…give up more picks comparatively and pay him $30 ish million?

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:
I started feeling better last night about this whole thing, which tells me he is likely dealt today. Look, I think most of us, rationally and with the emotion of the past week behind us, would rather he stay, sign a contract, play like a beast, and help us capture number six. But his actions in the social media arena, his unwillingness to say whether he wants to stay or go, and the circus around the situation continues to point towards him not being with us moving forward. I wish it was otherwise, but it is not. If he does stay, and you are looking for a silver lining, Scottie Pippen remained on the final Bulls title team--though he missed time with an injury--and helped them win.

If he stays, maybe it is his last dance. But, I got to tell you brothers and sisters, it sure does not feel that way today. It feels like he is already gone. Whether the Niners accept that and decide to rationally get the most for him that they can is the remaining question. We will find out in a few more hours.

Lol... why so emotional?

He wants to get pay, pay him with Jimmy's money.

Easy peasy. Jimmy is leaving any way. That was the 9er FOs plan all along lol.. especially once Trey was drafted.

Because emotion and reason are the bedrocks of human existence.

Not when it doesn't concern your livihood. If it's about winning, they need to keep deebo at all cost really.

That is your opinion. Certainly, they rationally believe they need him. It is simple logic, Jim. BUT, they do not emotionally have to commit to him at all. And if he, emotionally has decided, I am done. Then it does not matter, now does it?

Reason and emotion, emotion and reason, my man. They are intertwined in all of the things we do. In fact, you could continually argue a point of view that you deem reasonable, but that really demonstrates your emotional commitment to an idea that is in fact wrong. Yet, you feel that you are being reasonable, when, in fact, you are not. You are being emotional.

For the record, I think a good bit of both is necessary to survive.

Never was about emotions, it's about money. If it is fated for him it will come regardless. He's breaking major generational curses if he gets his pay day with the 9ers or if traded with someone else. Did any of his ancestors have the ability, fortune, karma or destiny to break those generational curses as him now? No. Jimmy can't block that. Jimmy already got his. Jimmy should have already been traded, no he took his sweet time and got his surgery late on purpose. That's not going to stop deebo from getting pay and breaking generational curses..

But, you emotional fellow, you demonstrate both in your contentions. You say it is about money--rational. Though, I would counter the pursuit for more money does not always make us more rational. If anything, it may become an emotional contest to satisfy our need for fulfillment. You speak of his ancestors in racial tones. I, too, as a cultured person believe in what it could mean for him and his family. Here, I would say we have a "push", a little bit of reason and emotion. After all, it feels good to make it for the fam. But then, you betray yourself with Jimmy this, Jimmy that. Like Jim "Pornstar" GQ is the fault of all things. Weak sauce, sir. Very weak sauce, indeed. In fact, like the orbit of a moon, you keep coming back to Jim. I have seen it elsewhere. Why? That is what I mean by your rationale being driven by emotion.

Again, both are fine. Reason and emotion. You need both. It helps give life to your arguments. But you deny them. Tis like denying the air we breathe.

What emotions? It's call intuition and facts. Deebo wants money (aka signing bonuses and guaranteed money) and early. Jimmy is blocking by slowing a trade for him when his 2022 salary is 26M+ in total. 9ers have $861K cap space. 9er FO like any office doesn't want to pay more than necessary, other teams are exactly the same and always looking to take advantage of other teams cap space issues and stealing talented players away, that's nature of the NFL business. The more talented stars you have on your team the high chance you get to the SB.

Do you think another team wants to take on 26M+ when Jimmy can't even throw a ball right now? Even though he isn't a bad QB compare to other starters in the league and has SB, NFCC, play off experience and a high win %.
Who did that? Jimmy. Those other QB desperate teams are just waiting for 9ers to cut him in July so they don't need to take on the full 26M+.

Has it not been pointed out that new contract/extension for Deebo is still possible with Jimmy still around? You see, you make it about Jimmy. Sure, he plays a role, but your sole basis is that it is his fault.

Where is my cap master when I need him. AB, I need you.

100% accurate Jimmy has no bearing on Deebos contract

TY. Mr. Heaven, sir.

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by fropwns:
I started feeling better last night about this whole thing, which tells me he is likely dealt today. Look, I think most of us, rationally and with the emotion of the past week behind us, would rather he stay, sign a contract, play like a beast, and help us capture number six. But his actions in the social media arena, his unwillingness to say whether he wants to stay or go, and the circus around the situation continues to point towards him not being with us moving forward. I wish it was otherwise, but it is not. If he does stay, and you are looking for a silver lining, Scottie Pippen remained on the final Bulls title team--though he missed time with an injury--and helped them win.

If he stays, maybe it is his last dance. But, I got to tell you brothers and sisters, it sure does not feel that way today. It feels like he is already gone. Whether the Niners accept that and decide to rationally get the most for him that they can is the remaining question. We will find out in a few more hours.

Lol... why so emotional?

He wants to get pay, pay him with Jimmy's money.

Easy peasy. Jimmy is leaving any way. That was the 9er FOs plan all along lol.. especially once Trey was drafted.

Because emotion and reason are the bedrocks of human existence.

Not when it doesn't concern your livihood. If it's about winning, they need to keep deebo at all cost really.

That is your opinion. Certainly, they rationally believe they need him. It is simple logic, Jim. BUT, they do not emotionally have to commit to him at all. And if he, emotionally has decided, I am done. Then it does not matter, now does it?

Reason and emotion, emotion and reason, my man. They are intertwined in all of the things we do. In fact, you could continually argue a point of view that you deem reasonable, but that really demonstrates your emotional commitment to an idea that is in fact wrong. Yet, you feel that you are being reasonable, when, in fact, you are not. You are being emotional.

For the record, I think a good bit of both is necessary to survive.

Never was about emotions, it's about money. If it is fated for him it will come regardless. He's breaking major generational curses if he gets his pay day with the 9ers or if traded with someone else. Did any of his ancestors have the ability, fortune, karma or destiny to break those generational curses as him now? No. Jimmy can't block that. Jimmy already got his. Jimmy should have already been traded, no he took his sweet time and got his surgery late on purpose. That's not going to stop deebo from getting pay and breaking generational curses..

But, you emotional fellow, you demonstrate both in your contentions. You say it is about money--rational. Though, I would counter the pursuit for more money does not always make us more rational. If anything, it may become an emotional contest to satisfy our need for fulfillment. You speak of his ancestors in racial tones. I, too, as a cultured person believe in what it could mean for him and his family. Here, I would say we have a "push", a little bit of reason and emotion. After all, it feels good to make it for the fam. But then, you betray yourself with Jimmy this, Jimmy that. Like Jim "Pornstar" GQ is the fault of all things. Weak sauce, sir. Very weak sauce, indeed. In fact, like the orbit of a moon, you keep coming back to Jim. I have seen it elsewhere. Why? That is what I mean by your rationale being driven by emotion.

Again, both are fine. Reason and emotion. You need both. It helps give life to your arguments. But you deny them. Tis like denying the air we breathe.

What emotions? It's call intuition and facts. Deebo wants money (aka signing bonuses and guaranteed money) and early. Jimmy is blocking by slowing a trade for him when his 2022 salary is 26M+ in total. 9ers have $861K cap space. 9er FO like any office doesn't want to pay more than necessary, other teams are exactly the same and always looking to take advantage of other teams cap space issues and stealing talented players away, that's nature of the NFL business. The more talented stars you have on your team the high chance you get to the SB.

Do you think another team wants to take on 26M+ when Jimmy can't even throw a ball right now? Even though he isn't a bad QB compare to other starters in the league and has SB, NFCC, play off experience and a high win %.
Who did that? Jimmy. Those other QB desperate teams are just waiting for 9ers to cut him in July so they don't need to take on the full 26M+.

Has it not been pointed out that new contract/extension for Deebo is still possible with Jimmy still around? You see, you make it about Jimmy. Sure, he plays a role, but your sole basis is that it is his fault.

Where is my cap master when I need him. AB, I need you.

Sure whatever you say. Let's see if he gets traded tonight and if not when he gets a extension, before or after Jimmy is gone or maybe they'll just make him play out his rookie contract and tag him 3x and how that will work out, regardless deebo is getting pay if he continues to play well like last year. And once Jimmy is gone along with his 26M+, that money will go to someone else if not deebo not my money, I can care less really to be honest.

Regardless, Blocking someone's money is bad karma. That's exactly what Jimmy has done having surgery late. If his 26M+ can go to doing an extension for deebo, then that bad karma goes back on Jimmy for blocking. No team wants to trade for Jimmy when he can't throw + have to take on his 26M+ total in salary for 2022. Even if a team is desperate for a starting QB, they can wait till July when Jimmy is cut because everyone knows the 9ers are moving on from Jimmy and his 26M+ total salary for 2022.

This fixation on Jimmy G is incredible. You again dip into the emotional with the "bad karma" quip. So, if I may, it is okay for Deebo to want his bag, but not for Jimmy to protect his? And, for that matter, for the Niners to want to rationally solve this thing in the due course of time?