CB Jason Verrett IS BACK on IR!

Originally posted by alwayssecond:
I would trade our 1st for players like Ramsey/Fitzpatrick in a heartbeat

But only one first. Two firsts is excessive

Same trade the Steelers did with dolphins sounds good to me

A solidly established high-quality player is worth more than a single 1st. How much more depends on need.

Drafting, even at the top of the draft, is still somewhat of a crap shoot. Hence, a 1st round pick has less value than a player that has established himself as having that value, if that makes sense.

IMO, given his performance history, Ramsey is worth more than a single 1st. Minkah does not yet have that same cred and would be worth less. Again, it is up to the market. In the case of the 49ers, with so much young talent soon to be up for a second contract, taking on Ramsey's salary doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by dj43:
A solidly established high-quality player is worth more than a single 1st. How much more depends on need.

Drafting, even at the top of the draft, is still somewhat of a crap shoot. Hence, a 1st round pick has less value than a player that has established himself as having that value, if that makes sense.

IMO, given his performance history, Ramsey is worth more than a single 1st. Minkah does not hey have that same cred and would be worth less. Again, it is up to the market. In the case of the 49ers, with so much young talent soon to be up for a second contract, taking on Ramsey's salary doesn't make sense.

Yeah, I agree. The issue isn't so much with the trade comp, but with the contract that will come with it.

Several studs coming up for renewal in the next 1-2 years. Buckner, Kittle, Witherspoon, Breida, Armstead, Warner, Sherman, McGlinchey, Juice.... who don't we keep to take on Ramsey? It'll need to be more than two, that's for sure.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Yeah, I agree. The issue isn't so much with the trade comp, but with the contract that will come with it.

Several studs coming up for renewal in the next 1-2 years. Buckner, Kittle, Witherspoon, Breida, Armstead, Warner, Sherman, McGlinchey, Juice.... who don't we keep to take on Ramsey? It'll need to be more than two, that's for sure.

Why would it be more than two Ramsey still has two years on his deal by that time Sherman's contract will be ending and they can move on from him. Armstead will more than likely be gone and the salary cap goes up every year. The Dallas's and Philadelphia's do it every year and they seem to be doing just fine

time for Verrett to man up

Lets hope the storm is over and he shake back.

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Yeah, I agree. The issue isn't so much with the trade comp, but with the contract that will come with it.

Several studs coming up for renewal in the next 1-2 years. Buckner, Kittle, Witherspoon, Breida, Armstead, Warner, Sherman, McGlinchey, Juice.... who don't we keep to take on Ramsey? It'll need to be more than two, that's for sure.

Why would it be more than two Ramsey still has two years on his deal by that time Sherman's contract will be ending and they can move on from him. Armstead will more than likely be gone and the salary cap goes up every year. The Dallas's and Philadelphia's do it every year and they seem to be doing just fine

Xavien Howard just set the price for a top-end CB at $15million/yr. When Ramsey's contract is up, that number will go up along with the cap number. So, do the math.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Yeah, I agree. The issue isn't so much with the trade comp, but with the contract that will come with it.

Several studs coming up for renewal in the next 1-2 years. Buckner, Kittle, Witherspoon, Breida, Armstead, Warner, Sherman, McGlinchey, Juice.... who don't we keep to take on Ramsey? It'll need to be more than two, that's for sure.

Why would it be more than two Ramsey still has two years on his deal by that time Sherman's contract will be ending and they can move on from him. Armstead will more than likely be gone and the salary cap goes up every year. The Dallas's and Philadelphia's do it every year and they seem to be doing just fine

Xavien Howard just set the price for a top-end CB at $15million/yr. When Ramsey's contract is up, that number will go up along with the cap number. So, do the math.

Ramsey will obviously be above that and require a $75M guarantee.

IF this is the real, sustainable Witherspoon... he will get something similar in 1-2 years.

So Lynch say's JV came out of the game a little nicked up.
Are you kidding me wasn't the guy in there for like 2 plays.🙄

Originally posted by Oilcan:
So Lynch say's JV came out of the game a little nicked up.
Are you kidding me wasn't the guy in there for like 2 plays.🙄

Right. And the only play that he touched anyone was when he tackled the WR for a PI. Maybe the WR's cleat scraped his chin.

I just hope his next outing is better than this one...way better and not in a serious play situation.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
So Lynch say's JV came out of the game a little nicked up.
Are you kidding me wasn't the guy in there for like 2 plays.🙄

Right. And the only play that he touched anyone was when he tackled the WR for a PI. Maybe the WR's cleat scraped his chin.

He trying to play that Jimmy Ward role.

Originally posted by Oilcan:
So Lynch say's JV came out of the game a little nicked up.
Are you kidding me wasn't the guy in there for like 2 plays.🙄

Wait... he wasn't talking about JV's pride?

Hope this dude proves me wrong but I have zero expectation of him being good. Coming in and getting burned two shots in a row then getting yanked just doesnt inspire confidence. Even if he plays better I still see him being the defense's main weak link.

I would feel a lot better if we start Verrett over Moseley

Originally posted by Antix:
Hope this dude proves me wrong but I have zero expectation of him being good. Coming in and getting burned two shots in a row then getting yanked just doesnt inspire confidence. Even if he plays better I still see him being the defense's main weak link.

you have not seen ward play yet.. thank god