2019 Depth Chart Tracker/53-man Roster Predictions

Originally posted by tohara3:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by John_Candy:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by zonkers:
IMO Exum deserves a spot, but I do think the FO will prioritize Moore and Harris since they have project status. TBH I'm not sure if the latter two will ever be as reliable as Exum. We'll see. The season is young.

I do think Tim Harris flashed today. He could/should be a darkhorse candidate if he keeps it up. Had size, speed, agility, and no serious mental defects, which should easily put him high on the DB depth chart.

Exum is certainly a solid, versatile player. He's 28 years old. Can we replace Jimmie Ward with him?

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I did.

I'm all for this move

exum is solid and versatile. in case you missed it.. that is exactly what we say about jimmy. jimmy stays

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Who's least important among these 4 in this new scheme?

Elijah Lee, Kentavius Street, D.J. Jones & Jullian Taylor

I'd say Taylor, but hoping he can be stashed on PS.

I'm kind of leaning this way too...7th rounder vs. Street, 4th, who they are more invested in.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by tohara3:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by John_Candy:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by zonkers:
IMO Exum deserves a spot, but I do think the FO will prioritize Moore and Harris since they have project status. TBH I'm not sure if the latter two will ever be as reliable as Exum. We'll see. The season is young.

I do think Tim Harris flashed today. He could/should be a darkhorse candidate if he keeps it up. Had size, speed, agility, and no serious mental defects, which should easily put him high on the DB depth chart.

Exum is certainly a solid, versatile player. He's 28 years old. Can we replace Jimmie Ward with him?

I did.

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I'm all for this move

Exum's regular availability >>> Ward's fantasy talent/production/availability

IMO the scary thing with the S depth is that Exum is probably the only passable and available player. The rest is made up of IR "Club 49" vets (Reed, "Hospital" Ward, "Clinic" Tartt) and what looks like a bunch of special teamers at best (Colbert, Moore, Harris, anyone else).

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Who's least important among these 4 in this new scheme?

Elijah Lee, Kentavius Street, D.J. Jones & Jullian Taylor

I'd say Taylor, but hoping he can be stashed on PS.

I'm kind of leaning this way too...7th rounder vs. Street, 4th, who they are more invested in.

Really? Id argue Taylor is the best player out of all of them. I was high on Jones but I think Taylor can play nose and give us more in pass rush department. Sheldon Day surprised me as well.

Lee is easily the least important of those guys with Greenlaw and that Al-Shaair guy playing well.

I don't know what whether it was rust or what, but Kentavius Street looked massive and completely out-of-place at edge. The team told him he was moving inside, so I'm guessing he just kept lifting, eating and got big as f**k. Dude looks like he's close to 300 lbs.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Who's least important among these 4 in this new scheme?

Elijah Lee, Kentavius Street, D.J. Jones & Jullian Taylor

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I'd say Taylor, but hoping he can be stashed on PS.

I'm kind of leaning this way too...7th rounder vs. Street, 4th, who they are more invested in.

Really? Id argue Taylor is the best player out of all of them. I was high on Jones but I think Taylor can play nose and give us more in pass rush department. Sheldon Day surprised me as well.

Lee is easily the least important of those guys with Greenlaw and that Al-Shaair guy playing well.

Right? I actually took Lee off completely and went with 5 LB's figuring Al should easily make the PS and Tartt could always play either WILL or SAM as needed in a pinch. But they usually keep 10 DL and 6 LB's. I thought about dropping Jones too because of how cheap Taylor is and his upside/role here too. Then it really gets tricky when thinking about the active 46 esp. for the defense. So...hmmm...

Originally posted by Heroism:

I don't know what whether it was rust or what, but Kentavius Street looked massive and completely out-of-place at edge. The team told him he was moving inside, so I'm guessing he just kept lifting, eating and got big as f**k. Dude looks like he's close to 300 lbs.

Yeah, he might be that "other" 300 pounder. And MM sounded like it was a given he'd make the 53.

Originally posted by zonkers:

IMO the scary thing with the S depth is that Exum is probably the only passable and available player. The rest is made up of IR "Club 49" vets (Reed, "Hospital" Ward, "Clinic" Tartt) and what looks like a bunch of special teamers at best (Colbert, Moore, Harris, anyone else).

Exactly right. Scary!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Who's least important among these 4 in this new scheme?

Elijah Lee, Kentavius Street, D.J. Jones & Jullian Taylor

I'd say Taylor, but hoping he can be stashed on PS.

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I'm kind of leaning this way too...7th rounder vs. Street, 4th, who they are more invested in.

Really? Id argue Taylor is the best player out of all of them. I was high on Jones but I think Taylor can play nose and give us more in pass rush department. Sheldon Day surprised me as well.

Lee is easily the least important of those guys with Greenlaw and that Al-Shaair guy playing well.

Right? I actually took Lee off completely and went with 5 LB's figuring Al should easily make the PS and Tartt could always play either WILL or SAM as needed in a pinch. But they usually keep 10 DL and 6 LB's. I thought about dropping Jones too because of how cheap Taylor is and his upside/role here too. Then it really gets tricky when thinking about the active 46 esp. for the defense. So...hmmm...

One of the reasons I'm not high on Thomas is that the way he wins is with a quick sidestep move which leaves a potential lane for the qb to step up and run. I've yet to see him use a consistent bull rush.

AA and Taylor are both able to push the pocket which I think is more valuable that a guy who can win to the side of the guard. If they don't keep Taylor I would be shocked.

Originally posted by NCommand:
With the new W9 alignment being predominant and the need for ER's, do we really need both Kentavius Street & Jullian Taylor?

Street and Taylor IMO won't make it to the PS, and with Armstead's deal running out after this year, it's best to hang onto them, both are signed through 2021.

I hadn't realized it was Wesley Johnson who started at C. Good news. He played really well.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Post Dallas game...

[Injured Reserve/Suspension]

Bold = Likely 'Starter' in Base / Most Prominent Position

Offensive Personnel: --- 24
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo; Nick Mullens
RB: Tevin Coleman; Matt Breida & Raheem Mostert
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE/F: George Kittle; Levine Toilolo & Ross Dwelley
XWR: Deebo Samuel; Marquise Goodwin
SWR: Jordan Matthews; Richie James
ZWR: Dante Pettis; Jalen Hurd
LT: Joe Staley
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Ross Reynolds
C: Ben Garland; Wesley Johnson
RG: Mike Person; Dillon Day
RT: Mike McGlinchey; Justin Skule

[C Weston Richburg, RB Jerick McKinnon, T Shon Coleman & SWR Trent Taylor]

Notable Cuts: ZWR Kendrick Bourne, TE Kaden Smith & RG Joshua Garnett

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
LE/W9: Dee Ford; Arik Armstead & Kentavius Street
2i: Sheldon Day; D.J. Jones & Jullian Taylor
3T: DeForest Buckner; Solomon Thomas
RE/W9: Nick Bosa; Ronald Blair & Damontre Moore
SAM: Dre Greenlaw; LaRoy Reynolds
MIKE: Fred Warner; David Mayo
WILL: Kwon Alexander
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; Jason Verrett
SCB: Emmanuel Moseley; K'Waun Williams
LCB: Richard Sherman; D.J. Reed
FS: Tarvarius Moore; Jimmie Ward
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Marcell Harris

Notable Cuts: SAM Malcolm Smith, SAM/ST Mark Nzeocha, WILL Elijah Lee, RCB Tim Harris, FS Adrian Colbert & SS Antone Exum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Colin Holba
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

[LS Kyle Nelson]

KOR: Richie James & Matt Breida
PR: Dante Pettis; Trent Taylor
GR: Raheem Mostert & Tarvarius Moore

I'd cut one DL, and keep Elijah Lee, I doubt Kyle goes that thin at LB.

As for the injured players, which would be designated to return, only 2 can come back, of course you don't have to designate them, you just place them on IR after the 53 man roster cuts, remember that they have to make the initial 53 to be placed on IR to be eligible to return 8 weeks later.

Also we can't place anyone else on PUP, so that would be where Richburg would start, same for Celek, as if he isn't cleared, we can't cut him and save his salary, he'd likely file a grievance against us to get the $1.65M base salary.

As for keeping say Jet, Coleman, and Taylor on the 53 to start, you need to cut vested vets, and then re-sign them the next day.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I'd cut one DL, and keep Elijah Lee, I doubt Kyle goes that thin at LB.

As for the injured players, which would be designated to return, only 2 can come back, of course you don't have to designate them, you just place them on IR after the 53 man roster cuts, remember that they have to make the initial 53 to be placed on IR to be eligible to return 8 weeks later.

Also we can't place anyone else on PUP, so that would be where Richburg would start, same for Celek, as if he isn't cleared, we can't cut him and save his salary, he'd likely file a grievance against us to get the $1.65M base salary.

As for keeping say Jet, Coleman, and Taylor on the 53 to start, you need to cut vested vets, and then re-sign them the next day.

I'm not good at this, AB. Please bear with me.

Taylor as an example: we cut him before the 53 roster designation, re-sign him the next day. He then is ineligible to be placed on IR later designated to return (because he's not on the initial 53), so is then locked into the 53. If he's unable to play to start the season, tough. He's on the 53.

Did I understand this correctly? Thanks in advance!

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

I'd cut one DL, and keep Elijah Lee, I doubt Kyle goes that thin at LB.

As for the injured players, which would be designated to return, only 2 can come back, of course you don't have to designate them, you just place them on IR after the 53 man roster cuts, remember that they have to make the initial 53 to be placed on IR to be eligible to return 8 weeks later.

Also we can't place anyone else on PUP, so that would be where Richburg would start, same for Celek, as if he isn't cleared, we can't cut him and save his salary, he'd likely file a grievance against us to get the $1.65M base salary.

As for keeping say Jet, Coleman, and Taylor on the 53 to start, you need to cut vested vets, and then re-sign them the next day.

LMAO...was editing just that, come here and there you go. You're good, man. Really really good.

I hope people pin this information. It's really important in the 53. I'm just keeping a pool right now but for the final 53, one has to really take this into account.

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I'd cut one DL, and keep Elijah Lee, I doubt Kyle goes that thin at LB.

As for the injured players, which would be designated to return, only 2 can come back, of course you don't have to designate them, you just place them on IR after the 53 man roster cuts, remember that they have to make the initial 53 to be placed on IR to be eligible to return 8 weeks later.

Also we can't place anyone else on PUP, so that would be where Richburg would start, same for Celek, as if he isn't cleared, we can't cut him and save his salary, he'd likely file a grievance against us to get the $1.65M base salary.

As for keeping say Jet, Coleman, and Taylor on the 53 to start, you need to cut vested vets, and then re-sign them the next day.

I'm not good at this, AB. Please bear with me.

Taylor as an example: we cut him before the 53 roster designation, re-sign him the next day. He then is ineligible to be placed on IR later designated to return (because he's not on the initial 53), so is then locked into the 53. If he's unable to play to start the season, tough. He's on the 53.

Did I understand this correctly? Thanks in advance!

Basically Trent Taylor, Jerick McKinnon, Shon Coleman, and anyone else they were to want to return this season off IR has to make the initial 53 man roster, then the next day those players get placed on IR, if they're placed on IR when final cuts are made they're out for the season, ineligible to return off IR.

So the best solution is to cut vested veterans who don't go through waivers, like LaRoy Reynolds, Dillon Day, Wesley Johnson, Levine Toilolo, and then we re-sign them the next day(Sunday, the same day we can sign players to the practice squad).