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Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
whens roster cuts? dates?
First round is the day after everyone finishes their 3rd preseason game. Not sure when that is exactly. Then you have to cut all the way down after the last game.
Originally posted by defenderDX:Originally posted by OnTheClock:I have no clue what we're gonna do still. Things always get hazier after the 2nd pre-season game. Still need 2 more to see. So this is what I'm going with now:
QB: (2) Garoppolo, Mullens
HB: (4) Breida, Coleman, McKinnon, Mostert
FB: (1) Juice
TE: (3) Kittle, Dwelley, Smith (Toilolo if he's healthy)
WR: (6) Pettis, Samuel, Taylor, Goodwin, Hurd, James
OL: (8) Staley, Tomlinson, Person, McGlinchey, Young, Garnett, Richburg, Johnson
DL: (10) Ford, Buckner, Bosa, Armstead, Thomas, Givens, Street, Taylor, Blair, Jones
LB: (6) Warner, Alexander, Greenlaw, Smith, Nzeocha, Mayo
DB: (10) Sherman, Witherspoon, Verrett, Williams, Reed, Moseley, Moore, Tartt, Exum, Ward
K: (1) Gould
P: (1) Wishnowsky
LS: (1) Holba
IR: S.Coleman (ankle), Colbert (hamstring), D.Moore (thumb), Celek (back, head)
Notes:
1. I like Bourne, I really do. But.. simply put, James is too valuable to let go of due to his reliability and effectiveness on kick and punt returns. I can't be the only one here terrified watching Pettis struggle to track punts in the air. I think we will trade Bourne for anything we can possibly get for him. Since he can't return kicks, his value is in the fact that he can play all WR spots, but so can Pettis, Hurd, and Deebo. Unless we find a way to keep 7, I just don't see Bourne or Matthews making it.
2. At safety, if we're only going with 4, then all four need to be able to play both safety spots. I like Marcell Harris, but he can't. Can we sneak him onto the PS if cut? Unlikely. Another potential trade candidate, in my opinion.
3. I know we guaranteed money to Garland, but he's been horrendous not only in practice, per reports, but also in games. If he can't do the job -- why keep him around? It's limited action we've seen, but it's been almost all negative. Not only has Wesley Johnson been the better player, he can play every spot on the line, including tackle. Garland can't. Garnett also had snaps at C a few times last season as well as earlier this off-season, so I just don't see Garland offering anything we don't already have with the other guys.
4. Players I see being stashed for a potential add-back later: DE Damontre Moore (dislocated thumb is a 6-8 week injury) and S Colbert.
really hope matthews doesn't make it after that last showing
Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by Heroism:The San Francisco 49ers announced on Wednesday they have signed OL Andrew Lauderdale, S Tyree Robinson and WR Chris Thompson to one-year deals. In order to make room on the roster, the team waived OL Christian DiLauro and RB Brandon Wilds, and waived/injured WR Shawn Poindexter.
Basically extra camp fodder to see if any are worth a PS spot.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I have no clue what we're gonna do still. Things always get hazier after the 2nd pre-season game. Still need 2 more to see. So this is what I'm going with now:
QB: (2) Garoppolo, Mullens
HB: (4) Breida, Coleman, McKinnon, Mostert
FB: (1) Juice
TE: (3) Kittle, Dwelley, Smith (Toilolo if he's healthy)
WR: (6) Pettis, Samuel, Taylor, Goodwin, Hurd, James
OL: (8) Staley, Tomlinson, Person, McGlinchey, Young, Garnett, Richburg, Johnson
DL: (10) Ford, Buckner, Bosa, Armstead, Thomas, Givens, Street, Taylor, Blair, Jones
LB: (6) Warner, Alexander, Greenlaw, Smith, Nzeocha, Mayo
DB: (10) Sherman, Witherspoon, Verrett, Williams, Reed, Moseley, Moore, Tartt, Exum, Ward
K: (1) Gould
P: (1) Wishnowsky
LS: (1) Holba
IR: S.Coleman (ankle), Colbert (hamstring), D.Moore (thumb), Celek (back, head)
Notes:
1. I like Bourne, I really do. But.. simply put, James is too valuable to let go of due to his reliability and effectiveness on kick and punt returns. I can't be the only one here terrified watching Pettis struggle to track punts in the air. I think we will trade Bourne for anything we can possibly get for him. Since he can't return kicks, his value is in the fact that he can play all WR spots, but so can Pettis, Hurd, and Deebo. Unless we find a way to keep 7, I just don't see Bourne or Matthews making it.
2. At safety, if we're only going with 4, then all four need to be able to play both safety spots. I like Marcell Harris, but he can't. Can we sneak him onto the PS if cut? Unlikely. Another potential trade candidate, in my opinion.
3. I know we guaranteed money to Garland, but he's been horrendous not only in practice, per reports, but also in games. If he can't do the job -- why keep him around? It's limited action we've seen, but it's been almost all negative. Not only has Wesley Johnson been the better player, he can play every spot on the line, including tackle. Garland can't. Garnett also had snaps at C a few times last season as well as earlier this off-season, so I just don't see Garland offering anything we don't already have with the other guys.
4. Players I see being stashed for a potential add-back later: DE Damontre Moore (dislocated thumb is a 6-8 week injury) and S Colbert.
really hope matthews doesn't make it after that last showing
Agreed. Also to answer your question on cut-downs. I believe it's August 31 is the final cut date. The NFL eliminated the 75-man cut down in recent years, so there is only one cut date -- the 90 to 53 deadline. I would sincerely like us to look for trade partners for OL help. Dangle ANY of the following guys who would not be much of a loss if they left, please:
DL Day, DL Givens, WR Bourne, QB Beathard, S Harris
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Agreed. Also to answer your question on cut-downs. I believe it's August 31 is the final cut date. The NFL eliminated the 75-man cut down in recent years, so there is only one cut date -- the 90 to 53 deadline. I would sincerely like us to look for trade partners for OL help. Dangle ANY of the following guys who would not be much of a loss if they left, please:
DL Day, DL Givens, WR Bourne, QB Beathard, S Harris
Originally posted by elguapo:We better stash Moore (de) on IR He's too valuable as a pass rusher
Is lauderdale good on the OL? Why don't we sign an experienced center like John o Sullivan from the rams last year? Richburg is a huge injury question mark
Originally posted by 60sFan:
After Bronco Game:
QB: Jimmy, Mullens
RB: Coleman, Breida, Motsert, Wilson
FB: Juszczyk
WR: Pettis, Goodwin, Deebo, Bourne, Hurd, James
TE: Kittle, Dwelley , Smith
OL: Staley, McGlinchey, Tomlinson, Person, Richburg, Garland, Johnson, Young
DL: Bosa, Buckner, Day, Ford, Armstead, Blair, K.Given, J.Taylor, Street
LB: Alexander, Warner, Greenlaw, Lee, Mayo, Al-Shaair
CB: Sherman, Verrett, Witherspoon, Williams, Reed, Moseley,
S: Tartt, Ward, T.Moore, Exum
P: Wishnowsky
K: Gould
LS: Holba
IR: McKinnon, T. Taylor, DJ Jones
PUP: S. Coleman
Originally posted by Waterbear:
The Webzone might implode if we keep Beathard over Mullens.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
The Webzone might implode if we keep Beathard over Mullens.
I'm with that other person who said he'd go full CCiowa if that happened.
Originally posted by kezarvet49:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Did Wesley Johnson play at all? I don't recall seeing him.
He was the highest rated offensive lineman. Played a great game.
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by defenderDX:Originally posted by OnTheClock:I have no clue what we're gonna do still. Things always get hazier after the 2nd pre-season game. Still need 2 more to see. So this is what I'm going with now:
Notes:
1. I like Bourne, I really do. But.. simply put, James is too valuable to let go of due to his reliability and effectiveness on kick and punt returns. I can't be the only one here terrified watching Pettis struggle to track punts in the air. I think we will trade Bourne for anything we can possibly get for him. Since he can't return kicks, his value is in the fact that he can play all WR spots, but so can Pettis, Hurd, and Deebo. Unless we find a way to keep 7, I just don't see Bourne or Matthews making it.
2. At safety, if we're only going with 4, then all four need to be able to play both safety spots. I like Marcell Harris, but he can't. Can we sneak him onto the PS if cut? Unlikely. Another potential trade candidate, in my opinion.
3. I know we guaranteed money to Garland, but he's been horrendous not only in practice, per reports, but also in games. If he can't do the job -- why keep him around? It's limited action we've seen, but it's been almost all negative. Not only has Wesley Johnson been the better player, he can play every spot on the line, including tackle. Garland can't. Garnett also had snaps at C a few times last season as well as earlier this off-season, so I just don't see Garland offering anything we don't already have with the other guys.
4. Player I see being stashed for a potential add-back later: Adrian Colbert.
really hope matthews doesn't make it after that last showing
Agreed. Also to answer your question on cut-downs. I believe it's August 31 is the final cut date. The NFL eliminated the 75-man cut down in recent years, so there is only one cut date -- the 90 to 53 deadline. I would sincerely like us to look for trade partners for OL help. Dangle ANY of the following guys who would not be much of a loss if they left, please:
DL Day, DL Givens, WR Bourne, QB Beathard, S Harris
Huh, didn't know they ditched first cuts.
Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by elguapo:We better stash Moore (de) on IR He's too valuable as a pass rusher
Is lauderdale good on the OL? Why don't we sign an experienced center like John o Sullivan from the rams last year? Richburg is a huge injury question mark
Moore just jammed his finger. Is he going to be out for a while?
No, we've already signed-cut him like 5 times. LOL
Because Sullivan costs money. #Pray4Jimmy
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
The Webzone might implode if we keep Beathard over Mullens.
I'm with that other person who said he'd go full CCiowa if that happened.
Same here, they better not cut Mullens or trade him to keep Beathard, he's horrible.