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Originally posted by 91til:
Nice AB but you really think we keep 11 DLs? This is a time I hope we can move someone like Armstead. Same with Beathard. Hypothetically if we moved them both what would you do with their two spots?
Idk if we keep 11, it's possible, all 11 are NFL caliber DLineman, and I'd hate to lose any of the young guys, like Street, Taylor, Jones, who are signed for 2-3 more years, and guys like Blair and Moore add much needed depth at the EDGE rusher spot.
If we were to trade or cut Beathard, and deal AA, I'd think we'd go with another TE, Dwelley, and an OL or a 7th WR. Of course with cuts we could see the team claim some players off waivers, or even make player for player deals, I doubt we deal any future picks, we own all our picks in 2020 except our 2nd and we have DET's 7th. If we could deal some players and pick up some day 3 picks I'd be happy. If we could deal AA, I'd be ok, as it would clear $9.046M in cap room, and that would carryover into 2020, giving us more cap room than I have projected with carryover.
I guess this time next week we'll know, hopefully the team moves on from guys like Malcolm Smith, Joshua Garnett, Celek if they can, and Beathard.
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 60sFan:
QB: Jimmy, Mullens
RB: Coleman, Breida, Motsert, Wilson
FB: Juszczyk
WR: Pettis, Goodwin, Deebo, Mathews, Hurd, James
TE: Kittle, Dwelley , Smith
OL: Staley, McGlinchey, Tomlinson, Person, Richburg, Garland, Johnson, Young
DL: Bosa, Buckner, Day, Ford, Armstead, Thomas, Blair, K.Given, J.Taylor, Street
LB: Alexander, Warner, Greenlaw, Lee, Mayo, Al-Shaair
CB: Sherman, Verrett, Witherspoon, Williams, Reed, Moseley,
S: Tartt, Ward, T.Moore, Exum
P: Wishnowsky
K: Gould
LS: Holba
IR: McKinnon, T. Taylor, DJ Jones, S. Coleman
Not bad, one question, why is DJ Jones on IR? Did he get hurt?
I don't think they keep 11 DL so, I think he gets injured again. I think they carry 3 TE's.
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Welp, that's settled. CJ's ass got saved.
I can bet you someone that's gonna get cut hates Beathard!!
This seems like he's setting up a trade for Mullens...
Trade either one to the Colts for a decent pick or OL starter.
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Updated 53-Man Projection Post Chiefs Game
OFFENSE:
QB: 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022)/ 4 Nick Mullens(2019)/ 3 C.J. Beathard(2020)
RB: 26 Tevin Coleman(2020)/ 22 Matt Breida(2019)/ 31 Raheem Mostert(2021)
FB: 44 Kyle Juszysck(2020)
WR: 18 Dante Pettis(2021)/ 19 Deebo Samuel(2022)/ 11 Marquise Goodwin(2021)/ 17 Jalen Hurd(2022)/ 13 Richie James Jr.(2021)/ 15 Trent Taylor(2020)
TE: 85 George Kittle(2020)/ 83 Levine Toilolo(2019)
C: 58 Weston Richburg(2022)/ 63 Ben Garland(2019)
OG: 75 Laken Tomlinson(2021)/ 68 Mike Person(2021)/ 61 Wesley Johnson(2019)
OT: 74 Joe Staley(2021)/ 69 Mike McGlinchey(2021)/ 62 Sam Young(2019)
DEFENSE:
DE: 97 Nick Bosa(2022)/ 91 Arik Armstead(2019)/ 95 Kentavius Street(2021)
DT: 99 DeForest Buckner(2020)/ 94 Solomon Thomas(2020)/ 77 Jullian Taylor(2021)
NT: 96 Sheldon Day(2019)/ 93 D.J. Jones(2020)
LEO: 55 Dee Ford(2023)/ 98 Ronald Blair III(2019)/ 92 Damontre Moore(2019)
SAM: 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022)/ 47 Elijah Lee(2019)
MIKE: 54 Fred Warner(2021)/ 59 David Mayo(2020)
WILL: 56 Kwon Alexander(2022)/ 46 Azeez Al-Shaair(2021)
CB: 25 Richard Sherman(2020)/ 2 Jason Verrett(2019)/ 24 K'Waun Williams(2020)/ 23 Ahkello Witherspoon(2020)/ 32 D.J. Reed Jr.(2021)/ 41 Emmanuel Moseley(2019)
FS: 20 Jimmie Ward(2019)/ 33 Tarvarius Moore(2021)
SS: 29 Jaquiski Tartt(2020)/ 38 Antone Exum Jr.(2019)
SPECIAL TEAMS:
PK: 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
P: 6 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
LS: 40 Colin Holba(2019)
RESERVE LISTS:
IR/DFR: RB 28 Jerick McKinnon(2021)
IR: OT 78 Shon Coleman(2019)
PUP: TE 88 Garrett Celek(2019)
SUSPENDED: LS 86 Kyle Nelson(2022)
PRACTICE SQUAD:
RB 41 Jeff Wilson Jr.
WR 7 Malik Henry
TE 89 Kaden Smith
TE 82 Ross Dwelley
OG 76 Ross Reynolds
OT 67 Justin Skule
DE 78 Jeremiah Valoaga
DT 60 Kevin Givens
CB 35 Tim Harris
FS 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles
1. I went with 3 Quarterbacks after the statements made by Kyle Shanahan, which meant I had to go light somewhere, so I chose TE, as Juice can easily play TE in a pinch
2. I went with Jet on IR to start the season this time, while I have Trent Taylor on the 53 still as I don't think his injury is worth of short term IR.
3. Again I don't think the 49ers will cut Celek, as they may not be able to save any cap room due to Celek being on PUP still.
4. I went with Richburg on the 53 as it seems he will be activated off PUP this week.
5. Went with Al-Shaair over Nzeocha and others, younger, faster, and a tackling machine.
Great list and we will be cutting (hopefully trading beforehand for player or pick) 1 or 2 starters from WRs, RBs, DTs, TEs, and maybe 1 QB. Sure wish we could find a place for Walter but the way shanny finds RBs, is uncanny. Both he and his dad can pick RBs off the RB trees. Strange, no.?
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Updated 53-Man Projection Post Chiefs Game
OFFENSE:
QB: 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022)/ 4 Nick Mullens(2019)/ 3 C.J. Beathard(2020)
RB: 26 Tevin Coleman(2020)/ 22 Matt Breida(2019)/ 31 Raheem Mostert(2021)
FB: 44 Kyle Juszysck(2020)
WR: 18 Dante Pettis(2021)/ 19 Deebo Samuel(2022)/ 11 Marquise Goodwin(2021)/ 17 Jalen Hurd(2022)/ 13 Richie James Jr.(2021)/ 15 Trent Taylor(2020)
TE: 85 George Kittle(2020)/ 83 Levine Toilolo(2019)
C: 58 Weston Richburg(2022)/ 63 Ben Garland(2019)
OG: 75 Laken Tomlinson(2021)/ 68 Mike Person(2021)/ 61 Wesley Johnson(2019)
OT: 74 Joe Staley(2021)/ 69 Mike McGlinchey(2021)/ 62 Sam Young(2019)
DEFENSE:
DE: 97 Nick Bosa(2022)/ 91 Arik Armstead(2019)/ 95 Kentavius Street(2021)
DT: 99 DeForest Buckner(2020)/ 94 Solomon Thomas(2020)/ 77 Jullian Taylor(2021)
NT: 96 Sheldon Day(2019)/ 93 D.J. Jones(2020)
LEO: 55 Dee Ford(2023)/ 98 Ronald Blair III(2019)/ 92 Damontre Moore(2019)
SAM: 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022)/ 47 Elijah Lee(2019)
MIKE: 54 Fred Warner(2021)/ 59 David Mayo(2020)
WILL: 56 Kwon Alexander(2022)/ 46 Azeez Al-Shaair(2021)
CB: 25 Richard Sherman(2020)/ 2 Jason Verrett(2019)/ 24 K'Waun Williams(2020)/ 23 Ahkello Witherspoon(2020)/ 32 D.J. Reed Jr.(2021)/ 41 Emmanuel Moseley(2019)
FS: 20 Jimmie Ward(2019)/ 33 Tarvarius Moore(2021)
SS: 29 Jaquiski Tartt(2020)/ 38 Antone Exum Jr.(2019)
SPECIAL TEAMS:
PK: 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
P: 6 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
LS: 40 Colin Holba(2019)
RESERVE LISTS:
IR/DFR: RB 28 Jerick McKinnon(2021)
IR: OT 78 Shon Coleman(2019)
PUP: TE 88 Garrett Celek(2019)
SUSPENDED: LS 86 Kyle Nelson(2022)
PRACTICE SQUAD:
RB 41 Jeff Wilson Jr.
WR 7 Malik Henry
TE 89 Kaden Smith
TE 82 Ross Dwelley
OG 76 Ross Reynolds
OT 67 Justin Skule
DE 78 Jeremiah Valoaga
DT 60 Kevin Givens
CB 35 Tim Harris
FS 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles
1. I went with 3 Quarterbacks after the statements made by Kyle Shanahan, which meant I had to go light somewhere, so I chose TE, as Juice can easily play TE in a pinch
2. I went with Jet on IR to start the season this time, while I have Trent Taylor on the 53 still as I don't think his injury is worth of short term IR.
3. Again I don't think the 49ers will cut Celek, as they may not be able to save any cap room due to Celek being on PUP still.
4. I went with Richburg on the 53 as it seems he will be activated off PUP this week.
5. Went with Al-Shaair over Nzeocha and others, younger, faster, and a tackling machine.
I think think you got it right; found a way to keep the best players and young talent on the teamz and that's quite a talented practice squad as well.
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QB: (3) Garoppolo, Mullens, Beathard
HB: (4) Coleman, Breida, McKinnon, Mostert
FB: (1) Juice
WR: (6) Pettis, Goodwin, Hurd, Samuel, Taylor, James
TE: (2) Kittle, Toilolo
OL: (8) Staley, Tomlinson, Richburg, Person, McGlinchey, Young, Garland, Garnett
DL: (10) Ford, Bosa, Buckner, Day, Armstead, Thomas, Street, Taylor, Jones, Blair
LB: (6) Warner, Alexander, Greenlaw, Smith, Mayo, Shaair
DB: (10) Sherman, Witherspoon, Moore, Tartt, Williams, Verret, Reed, Moseley, Ward, Exum
K: (1) Gould
P: (1) Wishnowsky
LS: (1) Holba
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Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Welp, that's settled. CJ's ass got saved.
I can bet you someone that's gonna get cut hates Beathard!!
This seems like he's setting up a trade for Mullens...
Trade either one to the Colts for a decent pick or OL starter.
I don't think either would get us an upgrade on the OL.
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Dafuq? Remember, KYLE gets to pick his 53. This is all on him in the end.
"We have three very good quarterbacks," he continued. "We plan on having three this year. But just like every other person on our roster, if someone thinks there's a way to upgrade our team, we'll always listen."
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Dafuq? Remember, KYLE gets to pick his 53. This is all on him in the end.
"We have three very good quarterbacks," he continued. "We plan on having three this year. But just like every other person on our roster, if someone thinks there's a way to upgrade our team, we'll always listen."
2 on active roster + 1 on PS = 3 QBs
Beathard is getting traded. Colts are a new candidate, but Packers make sense too.
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Post Chief's game.
[Physically Unable to Perform/Injured Reserve/Suspension]
Bold = Likely 'Starter' in Base / Most Prominent Position
Offensive Personnel: --- 25
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo; Nick Mullens
RB: Tevin Coleman; Matt Breida & Raheem Mostert [Jerick McKinnon]
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE/F: George Kittle; Levine Toilolo & Ross Dwelley
XWR: Dante Pettis; Marquise Goodwin
SWR: Richie James; Trent Taylor
ZWR: Deebo Samuel;
Jalen Hurd
LT: Joe Staley
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Dillon Day
C: Wesley Johnson; Ben Garland [Weston Richburg]
RG: Mike Person; Najeee Toran
RT: Mike McGlinchey; Sam Young
[PUP/IR - C Weston Richburg (PUP), RB Jerick McKinnon (I.R.), T Shon Coleman]
Notable Cuts: ZWR Kendrick Bourne, SWR Jordan Matthews & TE Kaden Smith.
IR/PUP Notes: Because Jerick McKinnon came off the PUP list in pre season, he must now be on the original 53 and count towards a roster spot to retain him and then you can place him on I.R. the day after announcing the final 53. Weston Richburg did not. Therefore he will not count against the original 53. He'll go on the PUP.
Defensive Personnel: --- 25
LE/W9: Dee Ford; Arik Armstead
2i: Sheldon Day; D.J. Jones
3T: DeForest Buckner; Solomon Thomas
RE/W9: Nick Bosa; Damontre Moore & Ronald Blair
SAM: Dre Greenlaw; LaRoy Reynolds
MIKE: Fred Warner; David Mayo
WILL: Kwon Alexander; Azeez Al-Shaair
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; Jason Verrett
SCB: K'Waun Williams; Emmanuel Moseley
LCB: Richard Sherman; D.J. Reed
FS: Tarvarius Moore; Jimmie Ward
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Antone Exum
Notable Cuts: BE Jullian Taylor, BE Kentavius Street, SAM Malcolm Smith, SAM/ST Mark Nzeocha, WILL Elijah Lee, LCB Tim Harris, FS Adrian Colbert & SS Marcell Harris
Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Colin Holba
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Mitch Wishnowsky
[Suspension - LS Kyle Nelson]
KOR:
Richie James &
Matt Breida
PR:
Richie James; Trent Taylor
GR: Raheem Mostert &
Tarvarius Moore
[ Edited by NCommand on Aug 25, 2019 at 12:10 PM ]
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Updated 53-Man Projection Post Chiefs Game
OFFENSE:
QB: 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022)/ 4 Nick Mullens(2019)/ 3 C.J. Beathard(2020)
RB: 26 Tevin Coleman(2020)/ 22 Matt Breida(2019)/ 31 Raheem Mostert(2021)
FB: 44 Kyle Juszysck(2020)
WR: 18 Dante Pettis(2021)/ 19 Deebo Samuel(2022)/ 11 Marquise Goodwin(2021)/ 17 Jalen Hurd(2022)/ 13 Richie James Jr.(2021)/ 15 Trent Taylor(2020)
TE: 85 George Kittle(2020)/ 83 Levine Toilolo(2019)
C: 58 Weston Richburg(2022)/ 63 Ben Garland(2019)
OG: 75 Laken Tomlinson(2021)/ 68 Mike Person(2021)/ 61 Wesley Johnson(2019)
OT: 74 Joe Staley(2021)/ 69 Mike McGlinchey(2021)/ 62 Sam Young(2019)
DEFENSE:
DE: 97 Nick Bosa(2022)/ 91 Arik Armstead(2019)/ 95 Kentavius Street(2021)
DT: 99 DeForest Buckner(2020)/ 94 Solomon Thomas(2020)/ 77 Jullian Taylor(2021)
NT: 96 Sheldon Day(2019)/ 93 D.J. Jones(2020)
LEO: 55 Dee Ford(2023)/ 98 Ronald Blair III(2019)/ 92 Damontre Moore(2019)
SAM: 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022)/ 47 Elijah Lee(2019)
MIKE: 54 Fred Warner(2021)/ 59 David Mayo(2020)
WILL: 56 Kwon Alexander(2022)/ 46 Azeez Al-Shaair(2021)
CB: 25 Richard Sherman(2020)/ 2 Jason Verrett(2019)/ 24 K'Waun Williams(2020)/ 23 Ahkello Witherspoon(2020)/ 32 D.J. Reed Jr.(2021)/ 41 Emmanuel Moseley(2019)
FS: 20 Jimmie Ward(2019)/ 33 Tarvarius Moore(2021)
SS: 29 Jaquiski Tartt(2020)/ 38 Antone Exum Jr.(2019)
SPECIAL TEAMS:
PK: 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
P: 6 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
LS: 40 Colin Holba(2019)
RESERVE LISTS:
IR/DFR: RB 28 Jerick McKinnon(2021)
IR: OT 78 Shon Coleman(2019)
PUP: TE 88 Garrett Celek(2019)
SUSPENDED: LS 86 Kyle Nelson(2022)
PRACTICE SQUAD:
RB 41 Jeff Wilson Jr.
WR 7 Malik Henry
TE 89 Kaden Smith
TE 82 Ross Dwelley
OG 76 Ross Reynolds
OT 67 Justin Skule
DE 78 Jeremiah Valoaga
DT 60 Kevin Givens
CB 35 Tim Harris
FS 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles
1. I went with 3 Quarterbacks after the statements made by Kyle Shanahan, which meant I had to go light somewhere, so I chose TE, as Juice can easily play TE in a pinch
2. I went with Jet on IR to start the season this time, while I have Trent Taylor on the 53 still as I don't think his injury is worth of short term IR.
3. Again I don't think the 49ers will cut Celek, as they may not be able to save any cap room due to Celek being on PUP still.
4. I went with Richburg on the 53 as it seems he will be activated off PUP this week.
5. Went with Al-Shaair over Nzeocha and others, younger, faster, and a tackling machine.
I think think you got it right; found a way to keep the best players and young talent on the teamz and that's quite a talented practice squad as well.
I agree with this 53. I really thought we'd lose someone talented, especially if we carry 3 QBs. This looks pretty good and talented. It also buys us 8 time with Trent Taylor. I do wonder about Jerrick McKinnon and Jordan Matthews though. Matthews probably could be cut and resigned, while Trent Taylor is on the mend. As for McKinnon, I wonder what the plan is. I'm still holdng out hope an interior D-line can be moved for a guard.
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Trades:
Bourne for Vikings 6th round draft pick
Armstead for Colts 6th round draft pick
QB: Garoppolo/Mullens
RB: Coleman/Breida/Mostert/Wilson
FB: Juice
TE: Kittle/Dwelley/Smith
WR: Goodwin/Pettis
WR: Samuel/James
WR: Hurd/Matthews
LT: Staley/Udoh (signed via Vikings)
LG: Tomlinson
C: Richburg/Garland
RG: Person/Johnson
RT: McGlinchey
DE: Ford/Blair/Moore
DT: Buckner/Thomas
DT: Jones/Day
DE: Bosa/Street
LB: Greenlaw/Al-Shaair
LB: Alexander/Mayo
LB: Warner/Lee
CB: Sherman/T. Harris
CB: Witherspoon/Verrett/Moseley
NB: Williams/Reed
FS: Moore/Ward
SS: Tartt/Harris/Exum
ST: Gould, Wishnowsky, Holba
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Originally posted by GEEK:
Trades:
Bourne for Vikings 6th round draft pick
Armstead for Colts 6th round draft pick
QB: Garoppolo/Mullens
RB: Coleman/Breida/Mostert/Wilson
FB: Juice
TE: Kittle/Dwelley/Smith
WR: Goodwin/Pettis
WR: Samuel/James
WR: Hurd/Matthews
LT: Staley/Udoh (signed via Vikings)
LG: Tomlinson
C: Richburg/Garland
RG: Person/Johnson
RT: McGlinchey
DE: Ford/Blair/Moore
DT: Buckner/Thomas
DT: Jones/Day
DE: Bosa/Street
LB: Greenlaw/Al-Shaair
LB: Alexander/Mayo
LB: Warner/Lee
CB: Sherman/T. Harris
CB: Witherspoon/Verrett/Moseley
NB: Williams/Reed
FS: Moore/Ward
SS: Tartt/Harris/Exum
ST: Gould, Wishnowsky, Holba
Armstead played well last year. He is worth a 4th at the very worst imo.
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Ward should be nowhere near this roster. YOU KNOW he's going to get hurt by week 3.