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2019 Depth Chart Tracker/53-man Roster Predictions

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Originally posted by thl408:
No Sheldon Day? I only point that out because it seems like a tough position group to sort out.

Can't speak for OTC, but for me Day and Jones is one too many people for a position that's only on the field 1/3rd of the time anyway and doesn't really contribute to special teams.

I mean, they could put Day (but not Jones) in at 3T too, but if there's anything this team isn't lacking, it's 3Ts.

The other upside of not having much depth there is that DTs who specialize in taking on two blockers in the run game have really had their market value destroyed, and you can find those guys off the street if you need them.
[ Edited by PopeyeJonesing on Aug 26, 2019 at 12:16 PM ]
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
there is absolutely no f**king way toran makes the team



There is absolutely no way Garnett and Ward and Mabin and Dontae Johnson and...make this team either but every year, some of these scrubs do.

TBF, Toran is terrible but the coaches love that he can "play" (define that how you will) both G spots and C. Garland shouldn't be starting over Johnson either but he is.

The hardest thing to do when making these 53 is to "think like the coaches/FO." Read the tea leaves. Consider draft capital, favortism, investment in time and salary cap.

NC, I think the most reliable way to read Shanahan's mind is by a player's usage in the third pre-season game. For instance, Beathard not playing. It's possible to probable that Brunskill as the firsr OL guard off the bench against the Chiefs indicates Shanahan prefers him over Najee. Besides, Brunskill is a better name.

I love this and that dress rehearsal is certainly a great indicator. Good call on Brunskill.
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Originally posted by thl408:
No Sheldon Day? I only point that out because it seems like a tough position group to sort out.

Can't speak for OTC, but for me Day and Jones is one too many people for a position that's only on the field 1/3rd of the time anyway and doesn't really contribute to special teams.

I mean, they could put Day (but not Jones) in at 3T too, but if there's anything this team isn't lacking, it's 3Ts.

The other upside of not having much depth there is that DTs who specialize in taking on two blockers in the run game have really had their market value destroyed, and you can find those guys off the street if you need them.

Sheldon Day has been our starting 2i since day 1. FWTW.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Taking a wild guess at them having plans for Taylor and Jones to man that spot.

Very different skill set IMHO but I know what you mean here.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Sheldon Day has been our starting 2i since day 1. FWTW.

Very fair.

Replace with DJ Jones if you want, and the same logic would apply/not apply.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Taking a wild guess at them having plans for Taylor and Jones to man that spot.

Yep, same deal applies that way too.

If they want to keep Moore one way of doing that is keeping two of three of Day, Jones, and Taylor.
^ Definitely.
I don't think Taylor has the necessary quickness to live at 2i. That's not his game.

thl posted a nice highlight of Day beating a down block in the Sheldon Day thread. The 2i is going to have to do that a lot because teams are going to run a lot of plays where the 2i nose is getting whammed/trapped/downed.
Originally posted by Heroism:
I don't think Taylor has the necessary quickness to live at 2i. That's not his game.

thl posted a nice highlight of Day beating a down block in the Sheldon Day thread. The 2i is going to have to do that a lot because teams are going to run a lot of plays where the 2i nose is getting whammed/trapped/downed.

Do we have depth for Day there ar 2i?

That was a great breakdown and really illustrated the skill set needed for the 2i.
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Post Pre-Season Week 3 Prediction:

QB: (2) Garoppolo, Mullens
HB: (3) Breida, Coleman, Mostert
FB: (1) Juice
TE: (2) Kittle, Dwelley
WR: (7) Pettis, Samuel, Taylor, Goodwin, Hurd, James, Matthews
OL: (9) Staley, Tomlinson, Person, McGlinchey, Young, Garnett, Richburg, Johnson, Brunskill
DL: (10) Ford, Buckner, Bosa, Armstead, Thomas, Moore, Street, Taylor, Blair, Jones
LB: (6) Warner, Alexander, Greenlaw, Smith, Nzeocha, Mayo
DB: (10) Sherman, Witherspoon, Verrett, Williams, Reed, Moseley, Moore, Tartt, Exum, Ward
K: (1) Gould
P: (1) Wishnowsky
LS: (1) Holba


Notes:

- Beathard gets traded still.

- McKinnon to IR.

- Taylor's injury and Hurd being held out make it seem like we may need/decide to keep 7 WR after all.

- I noticed Brunskill played with the starters at RG when Jimmy was still on the field. Think perhaps he makes the initial cut, but also feel like we will look for a trade/waiver claim that eventually causes Garnett or Brunskill to get cut, even if they make the initial 53.

Personally I would go with 8 OL and add in Toilolo at TE, other than that it's hard to argue with anything here
Post Chiefs Game

QB: Jimmy, Mullens, Beathard
RB: Coleman, Breida, Motsert
FB: Juszczyk
WR: Pettis, Goodwin, Deebo, Mathews, Hurd, James, Taylor
TE: Kittle, Dwelley , Toilolo
OL: Staley, McGlinchey, Tomlinson, Person, Richburg, Garland, Johnson, Young
DL: Bosa, Buckner, Day, Ford, Armstead, Thomas, Blair, D. Moore , J.Taylor, Street
LB: Alexander, Warner, Greenlaw, Mayo, Al-Shaair
CB: Sherman, Verrett, Witherspoon, Williams, Reed, Moseley,
S: Tartt, Ward, T.Moore, Exum
P: Wishnowsky
K: Gould
LS: Holba

IR: McKinnon, Tim Harris, S. Coleman
Surprise trade, cut or IR- DJ Jones (I think the DL coach prefers penetrating disrupters on his DL)

Practice Squad:
RB Jeff Wilson
DT Kevin Givens
OL Daniel Brunskill
WR Malik Henry
TE Kaden Smith
OT Justin Skule
QB Wilton Speight
DB Marcel Harris
LB Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles
DE Jeremiah Valoaga
[ Edited by 60sFan on Aug 26, 2019 at 2:02 PM ]
Putting Mckinnon on IR to return would mean having to cut a guy we want to add after the IR designation.
Originally posted by 60sFan:
Post Chiefs Game

QB: Jimmy, Mullens, Beathard
RB: Coleman, Breida, Motsert
FB: Juszczyk
WR: Pettis, Goodwin, Deebo, Mathews, Hurd, James, Taylor
TE: Kittle, Dwelley , Toilolo
OL: Staley, McGlinchey, Tomlinson, Person, Richburg, Garland, Johnson, Young
DL: Bosa, Buckner, Day, Ford, Armstead, Thomas, Blair, D. Moore , J.Taylor, Street
LB: Alexander, Warner, Greenlaw, Mayo, Al-Shaair
CB: Sherman, Verrett, Witherspoon, Williams, Reed, Moseley,
S: Tartt, Ward, T.Moore, Exum
P: Wishnowsky
K: Gould
LS: Holba

IR: McKinnon, S. Coleman
Surprise trade, cut or IR- DJ Jones (I think the DL coach prefers penetrating disrupters on his DL)

Practice Squad:
RB Jeff Wilson
DT Kevin Givens
OL Daniel Brunskill
WR Malik Henry
TE Kaden Smith
OT Justin Skule
QB Wilton Speight
CB Tim Harris
LB Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles
DE Jeremiah Valoaga

No need to PS Harris, he went on IR today, so a IR-Stash.
Originally posted by Youngone:
Putting Mckinnon on IR to return would mean having to cut a guy we want to add after the IR designation.

We'll cut a vested veteran and bring him back the next day, someone like Toilolo, Johnson
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No need to PS Harris, he went on IR today, so a IR-Stash.

We'll cut a vested veteran and bring him back the next day, someone like Toilolo, Johnson

You think Jeff Wilson and Kevin Givens make it to PS?
Time to change your list NC, https://www.ninersnation.com/2019/8/26/20833989/49ers-activate-center-weston-richburg-from-pup-list
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