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2019 Depth Chart Tracker/53-man Roster Predictions

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Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:
So as it stands today of the possible game one starters we have:

RB - Raheem Mostert - Out (Even though he refuted some reports, he is looking at extended time on the sideline anyway)
LS - Kyle Nelson - Out (6 games left to serve on his suspension)
S - Jimmie Ward - Collarbone - Questionable (Brake)
QB - Jimmy G - Knee - Questionable (ACL)
DB - DJ Reed - Shoulder - Questionable (Torn Labrum)
C - Weston Richburg - Knee/Quadraceps - Questionable
LB - Kwon Alexander - Knee - Questionable (ACL)

I heard on a podcast last night there are 20 of the 90 guys 'out' ATM. LOL
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Oh yeah. I'll be updating as we go for sure!

It certainly 'seems' they might be prioritizing the special teams units for the first time. Wishnowsky, Mostert back, Gould and now, let's see what Hightower does with the return game.

Bellicheat cut his NFL coaching chops, coaching special teams, so it's Belicheat's MO to treat special teams as a big part of his football squad. Kyle Shanahan is just rebalancing the team and really beefing up that aspect of the team this draft cycle. But now I can see special plays just for the special teams - that only New England could execute.
Originally posted by NCommand:
I heard on a podcast last night there are 20 of the 90 guys 'out' ATM. LOL

Are they makin it up or is that just OUT of OTA's ?
53-Man Projected Roster

Base/Likely 'Starter' --- Depth --- Rookie

Offensive Personnel: --- 24
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo; Nick Mullens
RB: Tevin Coleman; Matt Breida & Raheem Mostert [Jerick McKinnon]
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Levine Toilolo
XWR: Dante Pettis; Marquise Goodwin
SWR: Trent Taylor; Jordan Matthews
ZWR: Deebo Samuel; Jalen Hurd
LT: Joe Staley; Shon Coleman
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Wesley Johnson
C: Ben Garland; [Weston Richburg]
RG: Mike Person; Ross Reynolds
RT: Mike McGlinchey

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
6T/W9: Nick Bosa; Arik Armstead
1T/2i: D.J. Jones; Solomon Thomas
3T/2i: DeForest Buckner; Kentavius Street
W9: Dee Ford; Ronald Blair
SAM: Malcolm Smith; LaRoy Reynolds & Mark Nzeocha
MIKE: Fred Warner; David Mayo
WILL: Kwon Alexander; Elijah Lee
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; [Jason Verrett]
SCB: K'Waun Williams; [D.J. Reed]
LCB: Richard Sherman; Dontae Johnson
FS: Jaquiski Tartt; Adrian Colbert & Tarvarius Moore
SS: Marcell Harris; Antone Exum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Colin Holba [Kyle Nelson]
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

Most likely/common inactives: Jerick McKinnon, Jalen Hurd, Ross Reynolds, Kentavius Street, LaRoy Reynolds, Dontae Johnson and Antone Exum
[ Edited by NCommand on May 31, 2019 at 6:29 AM ]
If Ward never plays a down this year, our depth in the secondary could be:

CB- Sherman, Verett, Spoon, K'Waun, Reed and *T-Harris.

S- Tartt, T-Moore, Colbert, M-Harris and Exum.

Not bad depth really.
[ Edited by TheXFactor on May 30, 2019 at 7:16 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
53-Man Projected Roster

Base/Likely 'Starter' --- Depth --- Rookie

Offensive Personnel: --- 24
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo; Nick Mullens
RB: Tevin Coleman; Matt Breida & Raheem Mostert [Jerick McKinnon]
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Levine Toilolo
XWR: Dante Pettis; Marquise Goodwin
SWR: Trent Taylor; Jordan Matthews
ZWR: Deebo Samuel; Jalen Hurd
LT: Joe Staley; Shon Coleman
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Wesley Johnson
C: Ben Garland; [Weston Richburg]
RG: Mike Person; Ross Reynolds
RT: Mike McGlinchey

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
6T/W9: Nick Bosa; Arik Armstead
1T/2i: D.J. Jones; Solomon Thomas
3T/2i: DeForest Buckner; Kentavius Street
W9: Dee Ford; Ronald Blair
SAM: Malcolm Smith; LaRoy Reynolds & Mark Nzeocha
MIKE: Fred Warner; David Mayo
WILL: Kwon Alexander; Elijah Lee
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; [Jason Verrett]
SCB: K'Waun Williams; [D.J. Reed]
LCB: Richard Sherman; Dontae Johnson
FS: Jaquiski Tartt; Tarvarius Moore [Jimmie Ward]
SS: Marcell Harris; Antone Exum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Colin Holba [Kyle Nelson]
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

You think Greenlaw is cut?
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
53-Man Projected Roster

Base/Likely 'Starter' --- Depth --- Rookie

Offensive Personnel: --- 24
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo; Nick Mullens
RB: Tevin Coleman; Matt Breida & Raheem Mostert [Jerick McKinnon]
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Levine Toilolo
XWR: Dante Pettis; Marquise Goodwin
SWR: Trent Taylor; Jordan Matthews
ZWR: Deebo Samuel; Jalen Hurd
LT: Joe Staley; Shon Coleman
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Wesley Johnson
C: Ben Garland; [Weston Richburg]
RG: Mike Person; Ross Reynolds
RT: Mike McGlinchey

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
6T/W9: Nick Bosa; Arik Armstead
1T/2i: D.J. Jones; Solomon Thomas
3T/2i: DeForest Buckner; Kentavius Street
W9: Dee Ford; Ronald Blair
SAM: Malcolm Smith; LaRoy Reynolds & Mark Nzeocha
MIKE: Fred Warner; David Mayo
WILL: Kwon Alexander; Elijah Lee
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; [Jason Verrett]
SCB: K'Waun Williams; [D.J. Reed]
LCB: Richard Sherman; Dontae Johnson
FS: Jaquiski Tartt; Tarvarius Moore [Jimmie Ward]
SS: Marcell Harris; Antone Exum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Colin Holba [Kyle Nelson]
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

You think Greenlaw is cut?

No way Greenlaw is cut for Reynolds iMO. Also doubt Dontae Johnson has a legit shot at making it.
Originally posted by genus49:
You think Greenlaw is cut?

He's a 6th round pick guys. Peacock broke his tape down and felt at best, he's a ST guy. He's just not a good player. Malcolm is already starting ahead of him and your backups must be excellent ST players too to be active...that's Mayo and Nzeocha.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No way Greenlaw is cut for Reynolds iMO. Also doubt Dontae Johnson has a legit shot at making it.

That's not to say Greenlaw couldn't rise to the top but we know Saleh loves 'his guys.' He just does.

Well, with Moore permanently moving to FS, you have only DJ, Tim and Mabin backing Sherman up. Pick your poison of crap there. Again. Saleh loves 'his guys.'

Changing my mind in 3...2...1 LOL
[ Edited by NCommand on May 30, 2019 at 4:45 PM ]
We will only keep 6 WR, and both Deebo and Hurd are locks, as are Pettis and Goodwin. I dont see Matthews getting cut, since Shanny specifically went out and got him, but you never know.

That means the last spot will come down to Trent Taylor or Bourne. Im guessing Bourne stays. Richie James will be placed on the PS if they can sneak him through waivers.
Originally posted by Niners99:
We will only keep 6 WR, and both Deebo and Hurd are locks, as are Pettis and Goodwin. I dont see Matthews getting cut, since Shanny specifically went out and got him, but you never know.

That means the last spot will come down to Trent Taylor or Bourne. Im guessing Bourne stays. Richie James will be placed on the PS if they can sneak him through waivers.

JM got a one year deal with 300k gtd. Seems more like an insurance signing given there were no guarantees how the draft would play out. He is definitely competing for a role and not assured of a spot any more than Taylor, James or Bourne.
As mentioned in the other thread regarding wins added, I think we've actually done better than it seems as far as solidifying depth across many positions. Below would be my projected starters and the "immediate depth" guy behind each of them.

Quarterback
Starter: Jimmy Garoppolo
Immediate Depth: Nick Mullens

Running Back
Starter: Tevin Coleman
Immediate Depth: Matt Breida

Fullback
Starter: Kyle Juszczyk
Immediate Depth: Kaden Smith

Offensive Tackles
Starters: Joe Staley, Mike McGlinchey
Immediate Depth: Shonn Coleman

Center/Offensive Guard
Starters: Weston Richburg, Laken Tomlinson, Mike Person
Immediate Depth: Ben Garland

Tight End
Starter: George Kittle
Immediate Depth: Kaden Smith

Wide Receiver
Starters: Dante Pettis (X), Kendrick Bourne (Z), Trent Taylor (SR)
Immediate Depth: Marquise Goodwin (X), Deebo Samuel (Z), Jalen Hurd (SR) (although argument could be made for Matthews)

Defensive End
Starters: Dee Ford, Nick Bosa
Immediate Depth: Ronald Blair

Defensive Tackle
Starters: DeForest Buckner (3T), D.J. Jones (NT)
Immediate Depth: Solomon Thomas (3T), Sheldon Day (NT)

Linebacker
Starters: Kwon Alexander (WLB), Fred Warner (MLB), Malcolm Smith (SLB)
Immediate Depth: Elijah Lee (WLB), David Mayo (MLB), Mark Nzeocha (SLB)

Cornerback
Starters: Jason Verrett, Richard Sherman, K'Waun Williams (SLCB)
Immediate Depth: Ahkello Witherspoon, D.J. Reed (SLCB)

Safety
Starters: Tavarius Moore (FS), Jaquiski Tartt (SS)
Immediate Depth: Adrian Colbert (FS), Marcell Harris (SS)
(Predicting Ward will get hurt again and Moore will earn a starting spot in the pre-season if given a chance for in-game snaps at FS)
Originally posted by NCommand:
He's a 6th round pick guys. Peacock broke his tape down and felt at best, he's a ST guy. He's just not a good player. Malcolm is already starting ahead of him and your backups must be excellent ST players too to be active...that's Mayo and Nzeocha.

That's not to say Greenlaw couldn't rise to the top but we know Saleh loves 'his guys.' He just does.

Well, with Moore permanently moving to FS, you have only DJ, Tim and Mabin backing Sherman up. Pick your poison of crap there. Again. Saleh loves 'his guys.'

Changing my mind in 3...2...1 LOL
Greenlaw is a 5th rounder, not 6th. You guys really think he gets cut? While I enjoy Peacock's podcast, I disagree w/ a LOT of things he says. ST is already his strength.

Whoever doesn't win the job opposite Sherman is the first backup at both spots. I'd say even Reed would start at CB over Johnson.
Originally posted by OsBoogie:
Originally posted by NCommand:
He's a 6th round pick guys. Peacock broke his tape down and felt at best, he's a ST guy. He's just not a good player. Malcolm is already starting ahead of him and your backups must be excellent ST players too to be active...that's Mayo and Nzeocha.

That's not to say Greenlaw couldn't rise to the top but we know Saleh loves 'his guys.' He just does.

Well, with Moore permanently moving to FS, you have only DJ, Tim and Mabin backing Sherman up. Pick your poison of crap there. Again. Saleh loves 'his guys.'

Changing my mind in 3...2...1 LOL
Greenlaw is a 5th rounder, not 6th. You guys really think he gets cut? While I enjoy Peacock's podcast, I disagree w/ a LOT of things he says. ST is already his strength.

Whoever doesn't win the job opposite Sherman is the first backup at both spots. I'd say even Reed would start at CB over Johnson.

5th+ is special teams area which is where he'd start. The issue is we can only keep 46 active and we have Mayo and Nzeocha who are already top notch ST aces. The 3 LB positions are all off-ball linebackers now and interchangeable.

The current list: Kwon, Warner and Lee. Those are probably your 3 best off ball linebackers with the most experience. Then you have to factor in Saleh's love for Malcolm Smith who's already been taking veteran first team reps at SAM. Nzeocha and Mayo are probably already depth and ST aces.

Greenlaw would have to beat out a veteran off-ball veteran LB in LaRoy Reynolds and bump either Nzeocha or Mayo.

Like with Bourne at WR, if he doesn't flat out win a starting role it might be hard to make the 53 let alone the 46.

BTW: This is a good thing. 5th-7th rounders shouldn't be making this team anymore let alone be considered starters and playing significant roles.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 6, 2019 at 8:05 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
5th+ is special teams area which is where he'd start. The issue is we can only keep 46 active and we have Mayo and Nzeocha who are already top notch ST aces. The 3 LB positions are all off-ball linebackers now and interchangeable.

The current list: Kwon, Warner and Lee. Those are probably your 3 best off ball linebackers with the most experience. Then you have to factor in Saleh's love for Malcolm Smith who's already been taking veteran first team reps at SAM. Nzeocha and Mayo are probably already depth and ST aces.

Greenlaw would have to beat out a veteran off-ball veteran LB in LaRoy Reynolds and bump either Nzeocha or Mayo.

Like with Bourne at WR, if he doesn't flat out win a starting role it might be hard to make the 53 let alone the 46.

BTW: This is a good thing. 5th-7th rounders shouldn't be making this team anymore let alone be considered starters and playing significant roles.

you're just making my point easier... Greenlaw is built to be that interchangeable type off the ball LB. Greenlaw is a rookie and will be cheap.

cutting a 5th rounder who has been playing well and can contribute to ST for a vet who offers nothing more than Greenlaw makes no sense.

Bourne plays ST so he has a better chance of making the 53 as a 4th, 5th, 6th WR than a guy like Matthews.

the average 5th rounder makes the active roster the first year at over an 80% rate.
Originally posted by OsBoogie:
Originally posted by NCommand:
5th+ is special teams area which is where he'd start. The issue is we can only keep 46 active and we have Mayo and Nzeocha who are already top notch ST aces. The 3 LB positions are all off-ball linebackers now and interchangeable.

The current list: Kwon, Warner and Lee. Those are probably your 3 best off ball linebackers with the most experience. Then you have to factor in Saleh's love for Malcolm Smith who's already been taking veteran first team reps at SAM. Nzeocha and Mayo are probably already depth and ST aces.

Greenlaw would have to beat out a veteran off-ball veteran LB in LaRoy Reynolds and bump either Nzeocha or Mayo.

Like with Bourne at WR, if he doesn't flat out win a starting role it might be hard to make the 53 let alone the 46.

BTW: This is a good thing. 5th-7th rounders shouldn't be making this team anymore let alone be considered starters and playing significant roles.

you're just making my point easier... Greenlaw is built to be that interchangeable type off the ball LB. Greenlaw is a rookie and will be cheap.

cutting a 5th rounder who has been playing well and can contribute to ST for a vet who offers nothing more than Greenlaw makes no sense.

Bourne plays ST so he has a better chance of making the 53 as a 4th, 5th, 6th WR than a guy like Matthews.

the average 5th rounder makes the active roster the first year at over an 80% rate.

Love this exchange!

The nice thing is Greenlaw is certainly a better off-ball linebacker and switch from the base down SAM like Harold and Nzeocha. If he's playing at SAM though, he'll still have to play mostly on the strong side and playing off blocks is a big weakness of his (and we know Saleh is all about that run defense). It'll be interesting to see who Saleh tries out at SAM going forward though...Lee, Smith, Greenlaw, Reynolds and Mayo. He certainly could rise to the top. I know we always want the shiny new toys to make it but IMHO, he's got an uphill battle and that's a good thing.

PS: interesting stat given the 50% hit rate for 1st rounders.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 6, 2019 at 8:38 AM ]
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