DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

3 sacks for Bosa on Sunday. Book it

Would cause so many tears of joy

Meh, the Bucs tackles aren't very good. There is no excuse for either Ford or Bosa to not get at least a pressure every passing down as long as they get a 1-on-1 matchup with either tackle. That said, 3 sacks would be very impressive.

Originally posted by okdkid:
I can't lie, I will be disappointed if Bosa doesn't get a sack in this game after all of the preseason hype. Especially considering the OL he's up against.

That's kind of a silly statement considering he's coming off an injury.

I just want to see the defense get consistent pressure on Winston and not play poorly against the run in the process. If that means Bosa comes out of the game without a sack that's fine. Obviously it would be nice if the sexy stats were there and pretty quick but I care more about the overall team goal.

Pressure sometimes >>> sack. Specifically if it leads to interceptions. I'd also be fine if Bosa was beating his guys and others were cleaning up for the sack.

Khalil Mack didn't have a sack last night...would you be upset if Bosa had a similar impact? Of course not.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by okdkid:
I can't lie, I will be disappointed if Bosa doesn't get a sack in this game after all of the preseason hype. Especially considering the OL he's up against.

I'll be disappointed if we still aren't generating pressure

I do not have high expectations. Sorry, but I do not believe in Saleh. DC is what makes the defense. Bosa most likely will only play on 3rd downs until he's 100%.

He said he's had no residual swelling after multiple practices. And they wouldn't let him even hit the practice field if his MRI showed any signs of damage. He's 100%.

Would be tremendously dumb of the Niners to let him play at all if he wasn't fully healed.

I'm talking about conditioning. Can't really condition when trying to heal the lower body. Don't think he can handle three downs.

Huh? You can get your heart rate up and work on your lung capacity without using your lower body or at least in a way which would impact the ankle healing properly.

How do you think paraplegics train for a marathon?

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
3 sacks for Bosa on Sunday. Book it

Would cause so many tears of joy

Meh, the Bucs tackles aren't very good. There is no excuse for either Ford or Bosa to not get at least a pressure every passing down as long as they get a 1-on-1 matchup with either tackle. That said, 3 sacks would be very impressive.

lol seriously? At least a pressure every passing down? Come on...

These guys may not be All Pros but they're NFL level OTs. Expectations around here are crazy despite all the negativity lol.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

3 sacks for Bosa on Sunday. Book it

Would cause so many tears of joy

Meh, the Bucs tackles aren't very good. There is no excuse for either Ford or Bosa to not get at least a pressure every passing down as long as they get a 1-on-1 matchup with either tackle. That said, 3 sacks would be very impressive.

lol seriously? At least a pressure every passing down? Come on...

These guys may not be All Pros but they're NFL level OTs. Expectations around here are crazy despite all the negativity lol.

This. I mean I do think Wishnowsky should have every punt go out at the 1 yard line but that's under his control. But I keep expectations realistic

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by okdkid:
I can't lie, I will be disappointed if Bosa doesn't get a sack in this game after all of the preseason hype. Especially considering the OL he's up against.

I'll be disappointed if we still aren't generating pressure

I do not have high expectations. Sorry, but I do not believe in Saleh. DC is what makes the defense. Bosa most likely will only play on 3rd downs until he's 100%.

He said he's had no residual swelling after multiple practices. And they wouldn't let him even hit the practice field if his MRI showed any signs of damage. He's 100%.

Would be tremendously dumb of the Niners to let him play at all if he wasn't fully healed.

I'm talking about conditioning. Can't really condition when trying to heal the lower body. Don't think he can handle three downs.

Huh? You can get your heart rate up and work on your lung capacity without using your lower body or at least in a way which would impact the ankle healing properly.

How do you think paraplegics train for a marathon?

Imagine thinking lung capacity was the only thing that required NFL level conditioning.

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
3 sacks for Bosa on Sunday. Book it

Would cause so many tears of joy

Meh, the Bucs tackles aren't very good. There is no excuse for either Ford or Bosa to not get at least a pressure every passing down as long as they get a 1-on-1 matchup with either tackle. That said, 3 sacks would be very impressive.

Yeeeeeah. I don't think these guys getting pressure every single down is realistic. The Bears were crazy good last year and they had a sack/int/fumble forced on 1 out of 8 passing attempts last year, and that was crazy high.

Football insiders did a very comprehensive study on pressures where they went through a complex algorithm of adjusting pressures vs coverage sacks and times the QB fell down or caused a sack or pressure himself. These were qualitative pressures and they did this after the 2017 season.

In 2017 the team with the highest pressure rate was Jacksonville at 38.4%. That's actually the highest rate between 2006-2017. So, even if they got a pressure on 2 out of 5 passing downs they still would be ranking the best of the last 13 years.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by okdkid:
I can't lie, I will be disappointed if Bosa doesn't get a sack in this game after all of the preseason hype. Especially considering the OL he's up against.

I'll be disappointed if we still aren't generating pressure

I do not have high expectations. Sorry, but I do not believe in Saleh. DC is what makes the defense. Bosa most likely will only play on 3rd downs until he's 100%.

He said he's had no residual swelling after multiple practices. And they wouldn't let him even hit the practice field if his MRI showed any signs of damage. He's 100%.

Would be tremendously dumb of the Niners to let him play at all if he wasn't fully healed.

I'm talking about conditioning. Can't really condition when trying to heal the lower body. Don't think he can handle three downs.

Huh? You can get your heart rate up and work on your lung capacity without using your lower body or at least in a way which would impact the ankle healing properly.

How do you think paraplegics train for a marathon?

Imagine thinking lung capacity was the only thing that required NFL level conditioning.

Let me know when you find someone who is saying that's the case.

Until then I'll continue laughing at the idea that the only way you can condition yourself is by using your lower body.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

3 sacks for Bosa on Sunday. Book it

Would cause so many tears of joy

Meh, the Bucs tackles aren't very good. There is no excuse for either Ford or Bosa to not get at least a pressure every passing down as long as they get a 1-on-1 matchup with either tackle. That said, 3 sacks would be very impressive.

Yeeeeeah. I don't think these guys getting pressure every single down is realistic. The Bears were crazy good last year and they had a sack/int/fumble forced on 1 out of 8 passing attempts last year, and that was crazy high.

Football insiders did a very comprehensive study on pressures where they went through a complex algorithm of adjusting pressures vs coverage sacks and times the QB fell down or caused a sack or pressure himself. These were qualitative pressures and they did this after the 2017 season.

In 2017 the team with the highest pressure rate was Jacksonville at 38.4%. That's actually the highest rate between 2006-2017. So, even if they got a pressure on 2 out of 5 passing downs they still would be ranking the best of the last 13 years.

What is the single game record for pressure rate? 30+% pressure rate for the season should be the expectation for our line considering the resources we've invested into it, but we're going up against a terrible line this game, so I expect us to beat that 38.4% rate this week.

I'll concede that 100% pressure rate is unreasonable considering the variables involved, but if Bosa or Ford get a 1-on-1 rush against either of these tackles on an obvious passing down, I expect them to win the majority of the time, if not every time. That won't always translate into a pressure or a sack, but it will result in a good PFF grade which is what ultimately matters.

35.3231234246357346583675835768534764453295124959142395824589124851249851294085901240951240958012450241958% pressure rate is what I expect.

Originally posted by Heroism:
35.3231234246357346583675835768534764453295124959142395824589124851249851294085901240951240958012450241958% pressure rate is what I expect.

so 35%

Hero, what do you think about Bosa at 9t? Does that help or hinder him? I made a post about this on the previous page. Wanted your thoughts.

Originally posted by rxrunner:
so 35%

that would be 0.3231234246357346583675835768534764453295124959142395824589124851249851294085901240951240958012450241958% below what hero expects and that is unacceptable.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by rxrunner:
so 35%

that would be 0.3231234246357346583675835768534764453295124959142395824589124851249851294085901240951240958012450241958% below what hero expects and that is unacceptable.

0.3231234246357346583675835768534764453295124959142395824589124851249851294085901240951240958012450241958% equates to Bosa being injured

Originally posted by Heroism:

35.3231234246357346583675835768534764453295124959142395824589124851249851294085901240951240958012450241958% pressure rate is what I expect.

35.3231234246357346583675835768534764453295124959142395824589124851249851294085901240951240958012450241958% would be disappointing considering the resources we've invested on the line.