DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Yeah I was also just listening to Lombardi. So confusing. I thought the CBA said players to be fined $50k a day and can't be forgiven by team. Lombardi said he went thru the agreement and there are asterisks, A rookie/first contract player on fifth year option $40k fine a day and the team can forgive the fine. It only applies to players on 5th year options. Obviously, the 9ers will forgive and I guess no hurry for Nick while we wait for contract to be finalized.

Kind of an odd CBA out after the hype of no more forgiveness by teams for fines.

The point of that clause is that once you get paid, you can't hold out a year or two later to get paid more cause someone else makes more than you.

a great example is the mahommes contract. He's severely underpaid and some are making $20M+ a year more than him right now. He can't throw a fit and holdout like players used to do when they wanted a raise. Fifth year option one makes more sense cause you had no control over your first contract and are trying to work out an extension - sometimes they can lag. Bosa is a great example of no bad blood but just hasn't materialize yet. He can preserve himself with no penalty and/or rush while it gets figured out

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Bosa is a diva for holding out.

he said he wouldn't do hold out. We should trade him!

Bosa would dumb to practice without an extension. He shouldn't step on the field until they pay him.

No way he steps out of the jacuzzi without a contract. Please, don't.

With regard to the "two way street" comment, I feel like the club holds the initiative in these discussions. There's lots of details that can get ironed out before haggling over the numbers begins.

Hope our opening offer was the biggest payday for a defender in todays game. Hope that was our start. Anything else would be amateur hour.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Bosa is a diva for holding out.

he said he wouldn't do hold out. We should trade him!

Bosa would dumb to practice without an extension. He shouldn't step on the field until they pay him.

They are paying him.....he chooses now to holdout?!?WTF. Let me guess....leverage.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Bosa is a diva for holding out.

he said he wouldn't do hold out. We should trade him!

Bosa would dumb to practice without an extension. He shouldn't step on the field until they pay him.

They are paying him.....he chooses now to holdout?!?WTF. Let me guess....leverage.

He goes to camp, full participation. He tears something before a signed contract, now his payday is gone.

And showing up just to stand around is stupid.

I like how Florio tries to stir up s**t "Bosa is indeed holding out."

lmao whole article is a piece of s**t.

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Bosa is a diva for holding out.

he said he wouldn't do hold out. We should trade him!

Bosa would dumb to practice without an extension. He shouldn't step on the field until they pay him.

They are paying him.....he chooses now to holdout?!?WTF. Let me guess....leverage.

He goes to camp, full participation. He tears something before a signed contract, now his payday is gone.

And showing up just to stand around is stupid.

Holding out is ridiculous and so are whatifs. No integrity anymore.

Originally posted by Youngone:
I like how Florio tries to stir up s**t "Bosa is indeed holding out."

lmao whole article is a piece of s**t.

How? Is Bosa at camp....No!
How long will he holdout/take to sign, dont know. Bosa is the idiot at this point in time. Under contract and just before TC.....give me money.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Bosa is a diva for holding out.

he said he wouldn't do hold out. We should trade him!

Bosa would dumb to practice without an extension. He shouldn't step on the field until they pay him.

No way he steps out of the jacuzzi without a contract. Please, don't.

With regard to the "two way street" comment, I feel like the club holds the initiative in these discussions. There's lots of details that can get ironed out before haggling over the numbers begins.

Hope our opening offer was the biggest payday for a defender in todays game. Hope that was our start. Anything else would be amateur hour.

Aaron Donald messed everything up. He's getting paid like $3M more a year than the second highest paid guy. Idk why the rams overpaid so much. Really bosa should of landed at about $30M and it's no biggie but now it's like $33M - not a huge difference but it is when you look at how tight our cap is over the next few years. We will need to do a lot of restructures.

as long as ownership is willing to dish out massive signing bonuses, we will be fine but we can only do that so much. Lol I doubt they have a few hundred mil chillin for just signing bonuses.

for anyone who doesn't know - teams have to pay signing bonuses up front and then can spread it out over the years. So we just have like $30M cash to hargrave. Now we will have to give a massive amount to Bosa. If we restructure some more for next year - it'll be a lot more cash to dole out. Lol I think Jed will do it

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Holding out is ridiculous and so are whatifs. No integrity anymore.

What ifs when it comes to your financial future is not ridiculous. Otherwise why are the 49ers not stepping across to the line? Maybe they are the ones being difficult.

They have their methodology, one specific is i believe a late offseason roster guarantee. They can cut you after the draft with out giving you the roster bonus most teams give in March.

Maybe instead of a signing bonus they are wanting a bigger year 3 roster bonus he may never get to see.

The point is, the player only has 1 card to play, and the team can make him play 3 seasons without secure contract.

Bosa will not risk injury without a new contract. The Niners have to fit him in without destroying the cap. I think he will get a contract soon that will solve the problem. My guess is a 5 yr ,150-160 ml with a big signing bonus and guaranteed money probably in the 80-90 ml range. If they give him say 65 ml bonus it would count as 13 ml over 5 yrs. Then they will probably set it something like this, 1st yr 4-5 ml, 2nd yr 5-7ml, 3 rd yr 15-18 ml, then split remaining contract into the last 2 yrs. The last 2 yrs would be a big hit to the cap room but who knows what the cap will be, but the first 3 yrs will be cap friendly. This is just a guess but this would give Bosa an average of 31-32 ml a yr. Plus if you figure the 1st & 2nd yr. of the contract would be a cap hit about the same as it is now. 1st yr would be 13ml ( bonus hit ) plus 4-5ml = 17-18 ml cap hit. 2nd yr 5-7 plus 13ml ( bonus 13ml ) = 18-20ml cap hit. So basically his first 2yrs would be about the same as his 17 ml cap hit is now. Anyway I am old & retired so what the heck, that's my thoughts on this. Have a good one and Go Niners!!!!!

Originally posted by TD49ers:
How? Is Bosa at camp....No!
How long will he holdout/take to sign, dont know. Bosa is the idiot at this point in time. Under contract and just before TC.....give me money.

Bosa is not an idiot here. If he is willing to come in on his 1 year deal, the team has ZERO incentive to pay him. They have him for 3 years $75m with $0 guaranteed.

The only people surprised and upset about Bosa not being in camp are fans. The team expected it and is not offended. No need to pull a Florio about this nothing burger.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
The only people surprised and upset about Boas not being in camp are fans. The team expected it and is not offended. No need to pull a Florio about this nothing burger.

Exactly. Florio needs clicks, Bosa doesn't need practice reps. He's dedicated to his craft. He will get paid and will reset the D Line market.

Wow a superstar is holding out until he gets contract... big news nonstory he will get his money soon.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
No way he steps out of the jacuzzi without a contract. Please, don't.

With regard to the "two way street" comment, I feel like the club holds the initiative in these discussions. There's lots of details that can get ironed out before haggling over the numbers begins.

Hope our opening offer was the biggest payday for a defender in todays game. Hope that was our start. Anything else would be amateur hour.

Lol at trying to justify your reasoning for blaming one party and not the other after you admitted you have no details, no insight, no facts....so ZERO KNOWLEDGE of what's going on.

Let's do better.