DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jonnydel stated on his podcast that he believes the holdup is that Bosa and Jones are both waiting for the other to sign first so they can get that claim of being the highest paid D lineman. Sounds like some selfish s**t to me. Especially if it pours over into the season when these games matter.

I think his agent is just doing his job.

The regular season is less than 12 days away and his three major clients (Bosa, Chris Jones, Joe Burrow) have made exactly $0 in these negotiations so far.

Sounds like he's doing a pretty poor job.

I don't disagree, but he is playing everyone for every dollar possible, which is his job. Unless Bosa says otherwise they will wait until the last second.

At least this is my hope. We wont know until after the dust settles.

I don't pretend to know what the story is with Bosa's contract negotiations, but having spent time in the Hollywood grist mill, I know that a lot of this crap comes from the agents. They want to be able to say that they got their client the biggest deal ever, which means, of course, that they got one of the biggest commissions ever. Quite frankly, the whole sports pay scale is way out of whack. The amount of money the top guys are making is completely out of line with any earthly notion of the actual worth of what they do.

Deshaun Watson, $240 million guaranteed for playing football for a few years, please. It's all pretty ridiculous. If you had a contract that paid you $12 million a year and you only played for four years, you would still have made $48 million, which is way more than enough for anyone to live on through the course of their lifetime. If you invest it smartly it would probably last your children's lifetime as well. Of course, if you are the sort of person who just REALLY needs to live in a $30 million mansion, then I guess $48 million wouldn't cut it. In which case, it all ends up just being about greed and ego, neither of which is deserving of any of our sympathies.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I don't pretend to know what the story is with Bosa's contract negotiations, but having spent time in the Hollywood grist mill, I know that a lot of this crap comes from the agents. They want to be able to say that they got their client the biggest deal ever, which means, of course, that they got one of the biggest commissions ever. Quite frankly, the whole sports pay scale is way out of whack. The amount of money the top guys are making is completely out of line with any earthly notion of the actual worth of what they do.

Deshaun Watson, $240 million guaranteed for playing football for a few years, please. It's all pretty ridiculous. If you had a contract that paid you $12 million a year and you only played for four years, you would still have made $48 million, which is way more than enough for anyone to live on through the course of their lifetime. If you invest it smartly it would probably last your children's lifetime as well. Of course, if you are the sort of person who just REALLY needs to live in a $30 million mansion, then I guess $48 million wouldn't cut it. In which case, it all ends up just being about greed and ego, neither of which is deserving of any of our sympathies.

Pretty much agree. The agent's job is to get the best deal for his client, nothing else. On top of that, his salary is *BASED* on what kind of deal he gets for his client. That's two biases that he's loaded with once the agent gets into contract negations with the GM's of the football world. Just got to be patient and keep grinding. If Lynch doesn't exercise patience, this can get into a Reggie White situation where once the threat escalation begins, it can't be stopped, and there is a sudden parting of the ways.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
U unfortunately, that won't be remotely close to a fair trade.

Would be plenty fair if the alternative is Bosa cap strapping the team. Trent, Kittle, Warner are getting old. The o-line isnt anything special. Aiyuk's contract is up, could always use more corners, and yes, drafting DE's is also an option.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I don't pretend to know what the story is with Bosa's contract negotiations, but having spent time in the Hollywood grist mill, I know that a lot of this crap comes from the agents. They want to be able to say that they got their client the biggest deal ever, which means, of course, that they got one of the biggest commissions ever. Quite frankly, the whole sports pay scale is way out of whack. The amount of money the top guys are making is completely out of line with any earthly notion of the actual worth of what they do.

Deshaun Watson, $240 million guaranteed for playing football for a few years, please. It's all pretty ridiculous. If you had a contract that paid you $12 million a year and you only played for four years, you would still have made $48 million, which is way more than enough for anyone to live on through the course of their lifetime. If you invest it smartly it would probably last your children's lifetime as well. Of course, if you are the sort of person who just REALLY needs to live in a $30 million mansion, then I guess $48 million wouldn't cut it. In which case, it all ends up just being about greed and ego, neither of which is deserving of any of our sympathies.

Pretty much agree. The agent's job is to get the best deal for his client, nothing else. On top of that, his salary is *BASED* on what kind of deal he gets for his client. That's two biases that he's loaded with once the agent gets into contract negations with the GM's of the football world. Just got to be patient and keep grinding. If Lynch doesn't exercise patience, this can get into a Reggie White situation where once the threat escalation begins, it can't be stopped, and there is a sudden parting of the ways.

Bosa is no doubt the best offensive player in the league at the moment. But he is also very expensive. Our roster is jammed against the cap. We would not find another Bosa but we could find an adequate rusher to take his place who might not be quite as good but will be a lot less expensive and give us some cap room for a few years to come. What will a good but not as great an edge rusher costs us in real terms? A couple of sacks during the year and a couple of hurry ups? Is Bosa really worth the cost over the next few years?

Today would be a good day to sign Bosa

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I don't pretend to know what the story is with Bosa's contract negotiations, but having spent time in the Hollywood grist mill, I know that a lot of this crap comes from the agents. They want to be able to say that they got their client the biggest deal ever, which means, of course, that they got one of the biggest commissions ever. Quite frankly, the whole sports pay scale is way out of whack. The amount of money the top guys are making is completely out of line with any earthly notion of the actual worth of what they do.

Deshaun Watson, $240 million guaranteed for playing football for a few years, please. It's all pretty ridiculous. If you had a contract that paid you $12 million a year and you only played for four years, you would still have made $48 million, which is way more than enough for anyone to live on through the course of their lifetime. If you invest it smartly it would probably last your children's lifetime as well. Of course, if you are the sort of person who just REALLY needs to live in a $30 million mansion, then I guess $48 million wouldn't cut it. In which case, it all ends up just being about greed and ego, neither of which is deserving of any of our sympathies.

Pretty much agree. The agent's job is to get the best deal for his client, nothing else. On top of that, his salary is *BASED* on what kind of deal he gets for his client. That's two biases that he's loaded with once the agent gets into contract negations with the GM's of the football world. Just got to be patient and keep grinding. If Lynch doesn't exercise patience, this can get into a Reggie White situation where once the threat escalation begins, it can't be stopped, and there is a sudden parting of the ways.

Bosa is no doubt the best offensive player in the league at the moment. But he is also very expensive. Our roster is jammed against the cap. We would not find another Bosa but we could find an adequate rusher to take his place who might not be quite as good but will be a lot less expensive and give us some cap room for a few years to come. What will a good but not as great an edge rusher costs us in real terms? A couple of sacks during the year and a couple of hurry ups? Is Bosa really worth the cost over the next few years?

So we gonna find an guy who gets 2 or 3 sacks less a year but makes way less money? That player would be in the same price range as Bosa.

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I don't pretend to know what the story is with Bosa's contract negotiations, but having spent time in the Hollywood grist mill, I know that a lot of this crap comes from the agents. They want to be able to say that they got their client the biggest deal ever, which means, of course, that they got one of the biggest commissions ever. Quite frankly, the whole sports pay scale is way out of whack. The amount of money the top guys are making is completely out of line with any earthly notion of the actual worth of what they do.

Deshaun Watson, $240 million guaranteed for playing football for a few years, please. It's all pretty ridiculous. If you had a contract that paid you $12 million a year and you only played for four years, you would still have made $48 million, which is way more than enough for anyone to live on through the course of their lifetime. If you invest it smartly it would probably last your children's lifetime as well. Of course, if you are the sort of person who just REALLY needs to live in a $30 million mansion, then I guess $48 million wouldn't cut it. In which case, it all ends up just being about greed and ego, neither of which is deserving of any of our sympathies.

Pretty much agree. The agent's job is to get the best deal for his client, nothing else. On top of that, his salary is *BASED* on what kind of deal he gets for his client. That's two biases that he's loaded with once the agent gets into contract negations with the GM's of the football world. Just got to be patient and keep grinding. If Lynch doesn't exercise patience, this can get into a Reggie White situation where once the threat escalation begins, it can't be stopped, and there is a sudden parting of the ways.

Bosa is no doubt the best offensive player in the league at the moment. But he is also very expensive. Our roster is jammed against the cap. We would not find another Bosa but we could find an adequate rusher to take his place who might not be quite as good but will be a lot less expensive and give us some cap room for a few years to come. What will a good but not as great an edge rusher costs us in real terms? A couple of sacks during the year and a couple of hurry ups? Is Bosa really worth the cost over the next few years?

So we gonna find an guy who gets 2 or 3 sacks less a year but makes way less money? That player would be in the same price range as Bosa.

What a genius lmao

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I don't pretend to know what the story is with Bosa's contract negotiations, but having spent time in the Hollywood grist mill, I know that a lot of this crap comes from the agents. They want to be able to say that they got their client the biggest deal ever, which means, of course, that they got one of the biggest commissions ever. Quite frankly, the whole sports pay scale is way out of whack. The amount of money the top guys are making is completely out of line with any earthly notion of the actual worth of what they do.

Deshaun Watson, $240 million guaranteed for playing football for a few years, please. It's all pretty ridiculous. If you had a contract that paid you $12 million a year and you only played for four years, you would still have made $48 million, which is way more than enough for anyone to live on through the course of their lifetime. If you invest it smartly it would probably last your children's lifetime as well. Of course, if you are the sort of person who just REALLY needs to live in a $30 million mansion, then I guess $48 million wouldn't cut it. In which case, it all ends up just being about greed and ego, neither of which is deserving of any of our sympathies.

Pretty much agree. The agent's job is to get the best deal for his client, nothing else. On top of that, his salary is *BASED* on what kind of deal he gets for his client. That's two biases that he's loaded with once the agent gets into contract negations with the GM's of the football world. Just got to be patient and keep grinding. If Lynch doesn't exercise patience, this can get into a Reggie White situation where once the threat escalation begins, it can't be stopped, and there is a sudden parting of the ways.

Bosa is no doubt the best offensive player in the league at the moment. But he is also very expensive. Our roster is jammed against the cap. We would not find another Bosa but we could find an adequate rusher to take his place who might not be quite as good but will be a lot less expensive and give us some cap room for a few years to come. What will a good but not as great an edge rusher costs us in real terms? A couple of sacks during the year and a couple of hurry ups? Is Bosa really worth the cost over the next few years?

It would be more than a couple less Sacks and not to mention all the pressures on the QBs. In this instance us is worth breaking the back of the salary cap for the next two years if we win a Superbowl. If it's about going to the playoffs and not winning it all then yes it's not worth it. Can we get lucky and find another edge, I doubt it...

This team stinks at 1st and 2nd round draft picks. Only way I would even tolerate a Bosa trade is if we get a Trevor Lawrence or Joe Burrow back and I'm aware that's virtually impossible.

At this point I would rather Bosa just sit out until both sides get it together. This is ridiculous. This isn't like the 2018 Raiders with Mack who had a franchise QB to pay and had zero playoff wins or contention aspirations to their name.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Source: Nick Bosa will be with the team and available to play Week One in Pittsburgh. The two sides plan to get a deal done "within the next few days."

— Jason Dumas (@JDumasReports) August 30, 2023

Any idea who this Jason Dumas is? Any track record of being right? I'm warry of anyone right now, doubt anyone knows anything type thing.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Source: Nick Bosa will be with the team and available to play Week One in Pittsburgh. The two sides plan to get a deal done "within the next few days."

— Jason Dumas (@JDumasReports) August 30, 2023

Don't play with my emotions right now!