DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
My comments below aren't jst about NickBosa. I'm using him as an example of what's happening in the NFL.

I know that players all want to be the highest paid at their position but even a great pass rusher like Bosa isn't worth $30 million per year. A DE isn't like a QB who is part of every offensive play. A DE can only have so much impact since he's just one of 11 guys and plays often are run in another part of the field.

I looked at Nicks impressive stats on Pro Football Reference and they still have minimal impact compared to a QB. He's averaged about .9 sacks per game. Three combined tackles per gameI 1.1 tackles for loss. 2.1 QB hits. One QB hurry per game.

Most teams run about 55-60 plays per game. If you combine all of his stats he's having an impact on about 9-10 plays per game. That's great but it's not on the same level as a QB. I think the whole NFL pay structure is out of whack and its' going to destroy some teams down the road. You can only keep pushing salaries back in order to fit under the cap for so long. If Bosa get's $30 million then somewhere down the road we're going to let a player walk.

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This is a very misleading measure of how much impact an edge rusher has.

Offenses alter their game plans and offensive line assignments for them, and are more prone to errors and mistakes when there's an edge rusher blowing up the backfield without showing up on the stat sheet.

By this same logic, a First-Team All-Pro left tackle and a crappy left tackle have virtually the same impact because they both started the same number of games.

Very well said...Bosa is arguably the best player on this team and he does matter on every defensive play. When they double team or scheme around him someone else makes a play. Last year the defense carried the team alot of games and he was a big part of that. When a player like Bosa that's so dominate he makes the whole team better.

If you read my opening statement you would know that I wasn't talking just abut Bosa. Theres no question he has an impact on the game nd he's the top 2 or 3 defensive player in the league. That being said, no defensive player can affect the game the way a QB does because the QB handles every snap. He can win games by making great passes or breaking runs. He can also lose games if he throws a crucial INT. That's why I say that no D player should make as much as the QB. I know that the top QBs are now making $50 million per year but many still aren't. If they keep this escalation up, there will be no room for the situational players and depth. Yoy're going to have the QB, DE and tackle taking up about 40% of the cap assuming the cap goes up to $300 million. That's not sustainable in the long run.

True the QB is the most important position on the field and paying Bosa Mahomes money would be foolish. However he is the best Defensive player in the NFL right now being the reining DPoY. So he's impacting the game on every defensive snap. He is on a trajectory of a HOF career and should be paid. Yes it's not sustainable in the long run but if you are trying to win now you must pay him. If we want to be a playoff team and never really win it all then yes that's too much. I would like to see a championship so I'd pay him.

Remember when the defense makes the opposition go 3 and out it helps the offense when the opponents defense is tired.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
My comments below aren't jst about NickBosa. I'm using him as an example of what's happening in the NFL.

I know that players all want to be the highest paid at their position but even a great pass rusher like Bosa isn't worth $30 million per year. A DE isn't like a QB who is part of every offensive play. A DE can only have so much impact since he's just one of 11 guys and plays often are run in another part of the field.

I looked at Nicks impressive stats on Pro Football Reference and they still have minimal impact compared to a QB. He's averaged about .9 sacks per game. Three combined tackles per gameI 1.1 tackles for loss. 2.1 QB hits. One QB hurry per game.

Most teams run about 55-60 plays per game. If you combine all of his stats he's having an impact on about 9-10 plays per game. That's great but it's not on the same level as a QB. I think the whole NFL pay structure is out of whack and its' going to destroy some teams down the road. You can only keep pushing salaries back in order to fit under the cap for so long. If Bosa get's $30 million then somewhere down the road we're going to let a player walk.

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This is a very misleading measure of how much impact an edge rusher has.

Offenses alter their game plans and offensive line assignments for them, and are more prone to errors and mistakes when there's an edge rusher blowing up the backfield without showing up on the stat sheet.

By this same logic, a First-Team All-Pro left tackle and a crappy left tackle have virtually the same impact because they both started the same number of games.

Very well said...Bosa is arguably the best player on this team and he does matter on every defensive play. When they double team or scheme around him someone else makes a play. Last year the defense carried the team alot of games and he was a big part of that. When a player like Bosa that's so dominate he makes the whole team better.

There is a such thing as Fred Warner and even though Bosa is HOF caliber, let us not act as if he is LT already

He's on his way and as far as I know there's no white powder issues either. He may become LT but that's like saying Purdy is going to be Montana. LT is one of the best players ever.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Obviously. In the NFL every team you play for is listed. This isn't baseball.

I am saying that I don't see us letting him leave here for anything outside of catastrophic injury. He has the consistency and work ethic of a sure to be HOFer

Originally posted by bassmanr:
He's on his way and as far as I know there's no white powder issues either. He may become LT but that's like saying Purdy is going to be Montana. LT is one of the best players ever.

Hell if we have an LT and a Montana on this team that right there is a freaking cheat code!

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
He's on his way and as far as I know there's no white powder issues either. He may become LT but that's like saying Purdy is going to be Montana. LT is one of the best players ever.

Hell if we have an LT and a Montana on this team that right there is a freaking cheat code!

Seriously!!

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
You're forgetting that any deal the 49ers sign with a player will have low cap numbers in the first 2 yrs. It's sustainable, but we won't be able to keep everyone, some will leave, most I believe can be retained.

In order to keep all of them, we will need guys to start taking haircuts and team friendly deals for each other, so everyone can make good money and play together. Time will tell what happens, a lot of it will depend on what Brock does when his contract is up (assuming he continues being the guy).

I'm honestly not worried about it, the way the 49ers do contract structures, years 1 & 2 are small cap hits, year 3 is when it'll go up a bit, by year 5 it is a lot. But I trust what Paraag does, not a fan of low balling players.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
This is the same regime that traded Buckner and drafted kinlaw.

Kinlaws a beast.

Jevon Kinlaw or are you talking about a different Kinlaw that none of us have seen yet?😎

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by picklejuice:


what if we put nick bosa on offense? where could we put him in? i would try it in the playoffs...

I bet they are discussing how just a small pinch of salt is all the seasoning grilled chicken needs.

Omg, took me a second lmfao

Originally posted by picklejuice:


what if we put nick bosa on offense? where could we put him in? i would try it in the playoffs...

Purdy looks like he is dipping.

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Purdy looks like he is dipping.

Pretty sure they all are.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
You're forgetting that any deal the 49ers sign with a player will have low cap numbers in the first 2 yrs. It's sustainable, but we won't be able to keep everyone, some will leave, most I believe can be retained.

In order to keep all of them, we will need guys to start taking haircuts and team friendly deals for each other, so everyone can make good money and play together. Time will tell what happens, a lot of it will depend on what Brock does when his contract is up (assuming he continues being the guy).

I'm honestly not worried about it, the way the 49ers do contract structures, years 1 & 2 are small cap hits, year 3 is when it'll go up a bit, by year 5 it is a lot. But I trust what Paraag does, not a fan of low balling players.

If you feel good about it, then I feel good about it. Hahah

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Purdy looks like he is dipping.

His fave singer is George Strait, has sang Garth Brooks songs..chances are high lol.

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Originally posted by btthepunk:

Take it for what it's worth, but I'm hearing a gentleman by the name of Nicholas John Bosa is planning to travel from Florida to California. #49ers #Flight**tch ✈️#PayNickBosa 👀 pic.twitter.com/062ZIgRvBt

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) August 31, 2023

Travel… when?

EDIT: Apparently in a reply, he said either today or tomorrow.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Take it for what it's worth, but I'm hearing a gentleman by the name of Nicholas John Bosa is planning to travel from Florida to California. #49ers #Flight**tch ✈️#PayNickBosa 👀 pic.twitter.com/062ZIgRvBt

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) August 31, 2023

Travel… when?

If true he will begin practice monday the week of Pittsburgh