DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I get the business part of it don't get me wrong but imo this was easy. Ok current highest defender is 31 million a year. Yeah we love you bro. How about 6 years 33 mill. And obviously the guarantee matches previous ratios as well.

I don't want to hear the cap and other players. The FO knew for the last 3 years he'd be getting this mega deal. This is literally a guy teams dream to have. He's a guy you pay to dollar to and feel good about it.

I am most certain we have already offered Bosa the top defensive salary and the associated guarantees as he was the undisputed DPOY. If we have not offered this then what is the problem. If we have offered this then what is Bosa's problem?

There are 2 sides to this:

If I am Bosa, then you offer me top salary for defensive player and top guarantees or I am sitting out.

If I am the 49ers, I would offer you the top salary and guarantees befitting the DPOY and if you balked, I am taking you the Crabtree route until you report

Time will tell but we would be stupid to NOT be offering Bosa pay commensurate with being the reigning DPOY

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I wonder how much is pride at making sure he beats Chris Jones.

Highly doubt he's singling any one player out to beat, he wants to be the highest paid defensive player, so that would include Jones.

They are both looking to beat Donald.

Originally posted by jays9ers:
Here me out.... We trade Bosa.. Pick up two number 1 pics.. we package those pics to move up and draft Caleb Williams

Wouldn't surprise me if Drake Maye ends up better anyway. (lol Derke?)

Ok I talked to a psychic…. Bosa deal be announced Monday and he'll be at practice

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I wonder how much is pride at making sure he beats Chris Jones.

Highly doubt he's singling any one player out to beat, he wants to be the highest paid defensive player, so that would include Jones.

They are both looking to beat Donald.

According to reports, Chris Jones isn't.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I get the business part of it don't get me wrong but imo this was easy. Ok current highest defender is 31 million a year. Yeah we love you bro. How about 6 years 33 mill. And obviously the guarantee matches previous ratios as well.

I don't want to hear the cap and other players. The FO knew for the last 3 years he'd be getting this mega deal. This is literally a guy teams dream to have. He's a guy you pay to dollar to and feel good about it.

I am most certain we have already offered Bosa the top defensive salary and the associated guarantees as he was the undisputed DPOY. If we have not offered this then what is the problem. If we have offered this then what is Bosa's problem?

There are 2 sides to this:

If I am Bosa, then you offer me top salary for defensive player and top guarantees or I am sitting out.

If I am the 49ers, I would offer you the top salary and guarantees befitting the DPOY and if you balked, I am taking you the Crabtree route until you report

Time will tell but we would be stupid to NOT be offering Bosa pay commensurate with being the reigning DPOY

BBosa has to live with this contract for 5 years. We're offering one penny more than Donald salary. We need to bring it up a bit In my opinion anything under 35 as a bargain and 35 is fair value. So if we burn the whole off season because we wouldn't go up to 35 our entire front office should be shot. My two cents

Wilks to Shanny, 'We gonna be blitzburg when we play Pittsburgh without Bosa.'

Good hell get this done already negotiator people.

The way I look at it his contract signing bonus will have to be equal to his salary cap this year so the team can fit under the cap. From what I've read his hit is about 17m. So if you consider the minimum for a 3rd year player is 1.02m, his bonus prorated over length of contract will be somewhere around there. So I figure his signing bonus will be somewhere around 85-88m on a 5 yr contract. As to the whole contract it will probably be around 165-170m. I think he should be able survive on that but who knows . Guaranteed money and other things could push that up to 170m +. That's just opinion, and just like a@@holes everybody has their own opinions. Either way, go Niners and I hope he signs soon.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Let's say bosa gets a $40M signing bonus, he will take home about 40% of it. He will be at the top of the bracket in Cali, so that's about half. Then he will have to pay 10% to his agent, 5-10% for a money manager.

so it's possible that out of $40M he would take home like $15M. Still a lot of money but not the same as taking home $25M or so like he would in a state like Texas and Florida.

Someone like bosa should negotiate where the team has to pay his agent or at least half of what his agent should get. As a way to offset the ridiculous tax burden anyone on the team will get.

You do understand that there are 2 sets of taxes, correct? The CA yearly income tax, at its highest level, is about 13%. So when people say "half my taxes!!!" they're talking about an all-in, state/federal/social security/etc.

The argument here is playing in Florida (0%) vs playing in CA (13% ) of those particular game checks. It's difference obviously, but not major

Lol yes… his federal income tax is 37%. His state income tax is 13.3%. His agent fee is 10%. His money manager is probably 10%. So in Cali, he pays 50% of his check in taxes Vs in a state like Florida where it's 37% because it's only federal. That's millions in difference ($5.2M difference if his signing bonus is $40M).

so like I said, in California - he immediately loses 50% of his money to federal income taxes and the states income tax. Then 10% goes to his agent. Then whatever else he pays. So at best, he's getting 40% of his income.

when you're only takin home 40% of your total earning, I'd argue that 13.3%, several million, is a major difference. All because of where you live. Lol

lets say of a $40M signing bonus, he takes home $16M (40%). He lost 13.3% (CA state income tax) - which amounts $5.2M.

in other words, he would of taken home 32% more cash than he did and put that in his bank account if he lived somewhere else. Lmao "nothing major". That's why things like "it's only 13.3% of your income" is so dangerous. It's a ton of money compared to what you actually get to take home after everything has taxed you.

CA take home: $16M
FL take home: $21.2M - approx 32% difference

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Let's say bosa gets a $40M signing bonus, he will take home about 40% of it. He will be at the top of the bracket in Cali, so that's about half. Then he will have to pay 10% to his agent, 5-10% for a money manager.

so it's possible that out of $40M he would take home like $15M. Still a lot of money but not the same as taking home $25M or so like he would in a state like Texas and Florida.

Someone like bosa should negotiate where the team has to pay his agent or at least half of what his agent should get. As a way to offset the ridiculous tax burden anyone on the team will get.

You do understand that there are 2 sets of taxes, correct? The CA yearly income tax, at its highest level, is about 13%. So when people say "half my taxes!!!" they're talking about an all-in, state/federal/social security/etc.

The argument here is playing in Florida (0%) vs playing in CA (13% ) of those particular game checks. It's difference obviously, but not major

Lol yes… his federal income tax is 37%. His state income tax is 13.3%. His agent fee is 10%. His money manager is probably 10%. So in Cali, he pays 50% of his check in taxes Vs in a state like Florida where it's 37% because it's only federal. That's millions in difference ($5.2M difference if his signing bonus is $40M).

so like I said, in California - he immediately loses 50% of his money to federal income taxes and the states income tax. Then 10% goes to his agent. Then whatever else he pays. So at best, he's getting 40% of his income.

when you're only takin home 40% of your total earning, I'd argue that 13.3%, several million, is a major difference. All because of where you live. Lol

lets say of a $40M signing bonus, he takes home $16M (40%). He lost 13.3% (CA state income tax) - which amounts $5.2M.

in other words, he would of taken home 32% more cash than he did and put that in his bank account if he lived somewhere else. Lmao "nothing major". That's why things like "it's only 13.3% of your income" is so dangerous. It's a ton of money compared to what you actually get to take home after everything has taxed you.

CA take home: $16M
FL take home: $21.2M - approx 32% difference

California taxes are too high however I've been to Florida, would you like to live there? Unless it was the Keys stock up on Meth. Yes it sucks but all around its better in California.

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Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Let's say bosa gets a $40M signing bonus, he will take home about 40% of it. He will be at the top of the bracket in Cali, so that's about half. Then he will have to pay 10% to his agent, 5-10% for a money manager.

so it's possible that out of $40M he would take home like $15M. Still a lot of money but not the same as taking home $25M or so like he would in a state like Texas and Florida.

Someone like bosa should negotiate where the team has to pay his agent or at least half of what his agent should get. As a way to offset the ridiculous tax burden anyone on the team will get.

You do understand that there are 2 sets of taxes, correct? The CA yearly income tax, at its highest level, is about 13%. So when people say "half my taxes!!!" they're talking about an all-in, state/federal/social security/etc.

The argument here is playing in Florida (0%) vs playing in CA (13% ) of those particular game checks. It's difference obviously, but not major

Lol yes… his federal income tax is 37%. His state income tax is 13.3%. His agent fee is 10%. His money manager is probably 10%. So in Cali, he pays 50% of his check in taxes Vs in a state like Florida where it's 37% because it's only federal. That's millions in difference ($5.2M difference if his signing bonus is $40M).

so like I said, in California - he immediately loses 50% of his money to federal income taxes and the states income tax. Then 10% goes to his agent. Then whatever else he pays. So at best, he's getting 40% of his income.

when you're only takin home 40% of your total earning, I'd argue that 13.3%, several million, is a major difference. All because of where you live. Lol

lets say of a $40M signing bonus, he takes home $16M (40%). He lost 13.3% (CA state income tax) - which amounts $5.2M.

in other words, he would of taken home 32% more cash than he did and put that in his bank account if he lived somewhere else. Lmao "nothing major". That's why things like "it's only 13.3% of your income" is so dangerous. It's a ton of money compared to what you actually get to take home after everything has taxed you.

CA take home: $16M
FL take home: $21.2M - approx 32% difference

California taxes are too high however I've been to Florida, would you like to live there? Unless it was the Keys stock up on Meth. Yes it sucks but all around its better in California.

I grew up in Cali and lived in other states, once I started making more money - yeah, Cali is an awesome place to live, but there are other places to live that are just as great but cheaper, IMO. I love Cali though - doesn't change the fact it's expensive Af. I would never base my business or anytbing out of it, pointless and extra costs for no reason.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Let's say bosa gets a $40M signing bonus, he will take home about 40% of it. He will be at the top of the bracket in Cali, so that's about half. Then he will have to pay 10% to his agent, 5-10% for a money manager.

so it's possible that out of $40M he would take home like $15M. Still a lot of money but not the same as taking home $25M or so like he would in a state like Texas and Florida.

Someone like bosa should negotiate where the team has to pay his agent or at least half of what his agent should get. As a way to offset the ridiculous tax burden anyone on the team will get.

You do understand that there are 2 sets of taxes, correct? The CA yearly income tax, at its highest level, is about 13%. So when people say "half my taxes!!!" they're talking about an all-in, state/federal/social security/etc.

The argument here is playing in Florida (0%) vs playing in CA (13% ) of those particular game checks. It's difference obviously, but not major

Lol yes… his federal income tax is 37%. His state income tax is 13.3%. His agent fee is 10%. His money manager is probably 10%. So in Cali, he pays 50% of his check in taxes Vs in a state like Florida where it's 37% because it's only federal. That's millions in difference ($5.2M difference if his signing bonus is $40M).

so like I said, in California - he immediately loses 50% of his money to federal income taxes and the states income tax. Then 10% goes to his agent. Then whatever else he pays. So at best, he's getting 40% of his income.

when you're only takin home 40% of your total earning, I'd argue that 13.3%, several million, is a major difference. All because of where you live. Lol

lets say of a $40M signing bonus, he takes home $16M (40%). He lost 13.3% (CA state income tax) - which amounts $5.2M.

in other words, he would of taken home 32% more cash than he did and put that in his bank account if he lived somewhere else. Lmao "nothing major". That's why things like "it's only 13.3% of your income" is so dangerous. It's a ton of money compared to what you actually get to take home after everything has taxed you.

CA take home: $16M
FL take home: $21.2M - approx 32% difference

That's the premium for living in a way better state—if you have money, of course. If you're well off, California is superior to Florida except for like a couple of spots and proximity to the Caribbean.