DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by mitpdub:
They went into that and Kelce and Mahomes think that Jones is not taking the team into consideration. They also said they're GM doesn't like getting jerked around and last time with Tyreke they didn't even want to deal with it and traded him instead.

This was yesterday:
On his "New Heights" podcast with his brother, Philadelphia Eagles center Jason Kelce, the Chiefs tight end said "I don't get it" in reference to Jones' holdout. Jones is entering the final year of his $80 million, four-year contract and has been looking for a long-term deal that would make him the second-highest paid defensive tackle in the league.

"Chris, you're really scaring me, man. Can you please come back?" Kelce said on the podcast. "You must know something I don't know because I just don't get it. I really want to win another Super Bowl ring with you, brother.

Wow. That is so out of line. If Jones has a career threatening injury is Kelce going to pay him what he lost?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by tankle104:
The anti Cali tax but love what it offers thread. Lol since bosa is breaking all our hearts :(

Yes it's a group therapy thread for a "Bosa not signing yet" issues 😑

Lol we are out of bosa news so we are talking taxes and destination preferences. Hahahah I blame paraage

Hilarious...I blame him too. Now Niners FO sign him now dammit

Originally posted by JTB1974:
It's pretty embarrassing how many Niner fans and Niner content creators are now downplaying how important Bosa is to this team. All because he hasn't signed yet. True homers who are preparing ithemselves ncase the worst happens so they can say "We don't need him he is not that good"

Just the DPOY who is 25 entering the prime of his career. The guy who already has 50+ sacks in his career and still 1 year left on his rookie deal. And that includes him missing an entire season. So that's 50+ sacks in 3 seasons(Counting playoffs). Now you have Larry Krueger saying DE's are useless in today's era because QB's are getting the ball out so quick. But yet all off season he has been complaining about the Niners lack of depth at DE and said they should have went out and signed some semi big names. He's also saying Bosa has done nothing in the playoffs ignoring his rookie season where he was dominant all playoffs and might have been mvp of the SB if Niners won that game. He has 8 sacks in 6 games.

Another narative being spin is people saying Niners were a top 5 defense in 2020 without Bosa. Anybody who watched that defense, It was not a top 5 defense despite what the stats may have shown. They constantly got the ball moved on them. They were rarely ever getting pressure on the QB. Hyder was their best DE that season. Let that sink in.

So many think players like Bosa just grow on trees and you can get them anywhere in the draft.

Have people really been saying he's not that good? He's literally the best defensive player playing right now.

I think maybe the point they are getting at is that even with bosa the niners need purdy to actually be good to great to win a Superbowl.

If bosa is signed or not signed will not dictate how far we go this season. Purdy will need to be as good or better than he was last season in order for us to win a SB.

Bosa himself is not enough. We are going to need QB play better than Jimmy did, especially in the playoffs when the QB can't hide as much and will need to win a couple shootouts.

I don't think the Niners should give in and sign Bosa to massive extension and make him the highest paid non-quarterback

1. Not leader type, not an alpha dog.

2. Bosa is great, but very injury risk.

3. Yes he gets lots of sacks, but rarely forces turnovers or causes QB to throw interceptions

4. most of sacks come from good coverage and take several seconds to develop, rarely are they game altering

5. he gets shut down when he faces great offensive tackles. Example remember last year vs lane Johnson (eagles)

6. rarely forces opposite teams to get penalties (false start, holding, personal fouls)

7. not a player that scares the QB. You were scared some DE's / OLB would break your qb in half, I remember Patrick Willis and Bowman knocking out RBs and QBs weekly, Bosa sacks/hits seem to be less impactful

Im not saying we should trade bosa .. nor am I saying we can find someone better. But he needs to be realistic who he is … maybe we should give him incentive based contract and tell him.. hey we will give you 200 million if you can hit these benchmarks

Originally posted by eman:
I don't think the Niners should give in and sign Bosa to massive extension and make him the highest paid non-quarterback

1. Not leader type, not an alpha dog.

2. Bosa is great, but very injury risk.

3. Yes he gets lots of sacks, but rarely forces turnovers or causes QB to throw interceptions

4. most of sacks come from good coverage and take several seconds to develop, rarely are they game altering

5. he gets shut down when he faces great offensive tackles. Example remember last year vs lane Johnson (eagles)

6. rarely forces opposite teams to get penalties (false start, holding, personal fouls)

7. not a player that scares the QB. You were scared some DE's / OLB would break your qb in half, I remember Patrick Willis and Bowman knocking out RBs and QBs weekly, Bosa sacks/hits seem to be less impactful

Im not saying we should trade bosa .. nor am I saying we can find someone better. But he needs to be realistic who he is … maybe we should give him incentive based contract and tell him.. hey we will give you 200 million if you can hit these benchmarks

Lol

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Have people really been saying he's not that good? He's literally the best defensive player playing right now.

I think maybe the point they are getting at is that even with bosa the niners need purdy to actually be good to great to win a Superbowl.

If bosa is signed or not signed will not dictate how far we go this season. Purdy will need to be as good or better than he was last season in order for us to win a SB.

Bosa himself is not enough. We are going to need QB play better than Jimmy did, especially in the playoffs when the QB can't hide as much and will need to win a couple shootouts.

Unless Purdy is Mahomes we are not winning a SB without Bosa.

Originally posted by eman:
I don't think the Niners should give in and sign Bosa to massive extension and make him the highest paid non-quarterback

1. Not leader type, not an alpha dog.

2. Bosa is great, but very injury risk.

3. Yes he gets lots of sacks, but rarely forces turnovers or causes QB to throw interceptions

4. most of sacks come from good coverage and take several seconds to develop, rarely are they game altering

5. he gets shut down when he faces great offensive tackles. Example remember last year vs lane Johnson (eagles)

6. rarely forces opposite teams to get penalties (false start, holding, personal fouls)

7. not a player that scares the QB. You were scared some DE's / OLB would break your qb in half, I remember Patrick Willis and Bowman knocking out RBs and QBs weekly, Bosa sacks/hits seem to be less impactful

Im not saying we should trade bosa .. nor am I saying we can find someone better. But he needs to be realistic who he is … maybe we should give him incentive based contract and tell him.. hey we will give you 200 million if you can hit these benchmarks

To use a line from the movie my cousin Vinny. "Everything that guy just said is bullsh*t"

Originally posted by eman:
I don't think the Niners should give in and sign Bosa to massive extension and make him the highest paid non-quarterback

1. Not leader type, not an alpha dog.

2. Bosa is great, but very injury risk.

3. Yes he gets lots of sacks, but rarely forces turnovers or causes QB to throw interceptions

4. most of sacks come from good coverage and take several seconds to develop, rarely are they game altering

5. he gets shut down when he faces great offensive tackles. Example remember last year vs lane Johnson (eagles)

6. rarely forces opposite teams to get penalties (false start, holding, personal fouls)

7. not a player that scares the QB. You were scared some DE's / OLB would break your qb in half, I remember Patrick Willis and Bowman knocking out RBs and QBs weekly, Bosa sacks/hits seem to be less impactful

Im not saying we should trade bosa .. nor am I saying we can find someone better. But he needs to be realistic who he is … maybe we should give him incentive based contract and tell him.. hey we will give you 200 million if you can hit these benchmarks

How to be wrong 7 times in one comment.

Originally posted by eman:
I don't think the Niners should give in and sign Bosa to massive extension and make him the highest paid non-quarterback

1. Not leader type, not an alpha dog.

2. Bosa is great, but very injury risk.

3. Yes he gets lots of sacks, but rarely forces turnovers or causes QB to throw interceptions

4. most of sacks come from good coverage and take several seconds to develop, rarely are they game altering

5. he gets shut down when he faces great offensive tackles. Example remember last year vs lane Johnson (eagles)

6. rarely forces opposite teams to get penalties (false start, holding, personal fouls)

7. not a player that scares the QB. You were scared some DE's / OLB would break your qb in half, I remember Patrick Willis and Bowman knocking out RBs and QBs weekly, Bosa sacks/hits seem to be less impactful

Im not saying we should trade bosa .. nor am I saying we can find someone better. But he needs to be realistic who he is … maybe we should give him incentive based contract and tell him.. hey we will give you 200 million if you can hit these benchmarks

Xeet this to @nbsmallerbear
Let him know he isn't as valuable as he thinks.

Lol.. I didn't know boss's agents are here with multiple accounts ..

Let me compare for y'all what BOSA DID in his CAREER DO FAR… That is .. all his games combined .. vs single season of other great defensive ends
Bosa .. 4 YEARS COMBINED > 8 FORCED FUMBLES
2 fumble recoveries
1 interception
4 passes deflected
20 run stuffs

TJ WATT > in 2019 .. SINGLE SEASON ONLY!
8 FORCED FUMBLES
4 FUMBLE RECOVERIES
2 INTERCEPTIONS
8 PASSES DEFENDED
11 RUN STUFFS

so geniuses .. please tell me how Bosa is demanding more money than watt .. while his career records mostly are below single season stats for watt
I can do this for many other DEs

Originally posted by eman:
Lol.. I didn't know boss's agents are here with multiple accounts ..

so tell me … how many fumbles has he forced in his career ??
4 YEARS combined > 8 FORCED FUMBLES
2 fumble recoveries
1 interception
4 passes deflected
20 run stuffs

TJ WATT > in 2019 .. single season
8 FORCED FUMBLES
4 FUMBLE RECOVERIES
2 INTERCEPTIONS
8 PASSES DEFENDED
11 RUN STUFFS

so geniuses .. please tell me how Bosa is demanding more money than watt .. while his career records mostly are below single season stats for watt
I can do this for many other DEs

They don't play the same position.

Originally posted by eman:
I don't think the Niners should give in and sign Bosa to massive extension and make him the highest paid non-quarterback

1. Not leader type, not an alpha dog.

2. Bosa is great, but very injury risk.

3. Yes he gets lots of sacks, but rarely forces turnovers or causes QB to throw interceptions

4. most of sacks come from good coverage and take several seconds to develop, rarely are they game altering

5. he gets shut down when he faces great offensive tackles. Example remember last year vs lane Johnson (eagles)

6. rarely forces opposite teams to get penalties (false start, holding, personal fouls)

7. not a player that scares the QB. You were scared some DE's / OLB would break your qb in half, I remember Patrick Willis and Bowman knocking out RBs and QBs weekly, Bosa sacks/hits seem to be less impactful

Im not saying we should trade bosa .. nor am I saying we can find someone better. But he needs to be realistic who he is … maybe we should give him incentive based contract and tell him.. hey we will give you 200 million if you can hit these benchmarks

Wow, this post sure is something.

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by eman:
Lol.. I didn't know boss's agents are here with multiple accounts ..

so tell me … how many fumbles has he forced in his career ??
4 YEARS combined > 8 FORCED FUMBLES
2 fumble recoveries
1 interception
4 passes deflected
20 run stuffs

TJ WATT > in 2019 .. single season
8 FORCED FUMBLES
4 FUMBLE RECOVERIES
2 INTERCEPTIONS
8 PASSES DEFENDED
11 RUN STUFFS

so geniuses .. please tell me how Bosa is demanding more money than watt .. while his career records mostly are below single season stats for watt
I can do this for many other DEs

They don't play the same position.

Fine .. look up his brother JJ watt then 😉

Originally posted by eman:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by eman:
Lol.. I didn't know boss's agents are here with multiple accounts ..

so tell me … how many fumbles has he forced in his career ??
4 YEARS combined > 8 FORCED FUMBLES
2 fumble recoveries
1 interception
4 passes deflected
20 run stuffs

TJ WATT > in 2019 .. single season
8 FORCED FUMBLES
4 FUMBLE RECOVERIES
2 INTERCEPTIONS
8 PASSES DEFENDED
11 RUN STUFFS

so geniuses .. please tell me how Bosa is demanding more money than watt .. while his career records mostly are below single season stats for watt
I can do this for many other DEs

They don't play the same position.

Fine .. look up his brother JJ watt then 😉

If JJ was 24 years old right now he'd get the biggest non QB contract ever. You can't compare contracts now to what they were 5+ years ago.

They didn't play the same position either.

Originally posted by eman:
Lol.. I didn't know boss's agents are here with multiple accounts ..

Let me compare for y'all what BOSA DID in his CAREER DO FAR… That is .. all his games combined .. vs single season of other great defensive ends
Bosa .. 4 YEARS COMBINED > 8 FORCED FUMBLES
2 fumble recoveries
1 interception
4 passes deflected
20 run stuffs

TJ WATT > in 2019 .. SINGLE SEASON ONLY!
8 FORCED FUMBLES
4 FUMBLE RECOVERIES
2 INTERCEPTIONS
8 PASSES DEFENDED
11 RUN STUFFS

so geniuses .. please tell me how Bosa is demanding more money than watt .. while his career records mostly are below single season stats for watt
I can do this for many other DEs

Well Hockenson just got more money than Kelce and Kittle and he is nowhere near them. Also QB's came in after Mahomes got paid more than him. The market changes every year.