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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by eman:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I wonder if eman believes Herbert or Lamar, or any QB like Burrow deserves a new deal, without winning a SB yet, Nick is the franchise player, he's IMO heart and soul of the defense with Warner, have no idea why no 49er fan would want NIck to not get extended.

Hey bro .. I'll respond since I respect you and have always respected your opinions! And I'm here to share and learn so correct me if I am wrong .. I'll welcome that

if you look at my original post, I LOVE Nick and want him to be 9er for life!!
but what I was saying is just sharing with other fans that Nick is special but not what he thinks of himself
sometimes you pay for a guys potential and not just their achievements .
both Lamar and Burrow deserve to be paid! As does Nick!
When I see Nick, I see a dominating beast of a player, but he is not the heart and soul of the teams defense! Fred is! Aaron Donald for his team is.. as is Micah Parsons! I just see a lot of question marks in his game and leadership quality and injury risks, so I was just sharing my idea that they should offer him more total comp but maybe slightly less guaranteed . Let's not suffer from recency bias

Nick Bosa is the MVP of the San Francisco 49ers. Warner may be the leader of the defense, but Bosa is the most important player. I don't get how that is even questioned.

Yup, 💯%, and we've learned the hard way what happens when you trade away an elite edge rusher. Charles Haley anyone?
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by eman:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I wonder if eman believes Herbert or Lamar, or any QB like Burrow deserves a new deal, without winning a SB yet, Nick is the franchise player, he's IMO heart and soul of the defense with Warner, have no idea why no 49er fan would want NIck to not get extended.

Hey bro .. I'll respond since I respect you and have always respected your opinions! And I'm here to share and learn so correct me if I am wrong .. I'll welcome that

if you look at my original post, I LOVE Nick and want him to be 9er for life!!
but what I was saying is just sharing with other fans that Nick is special but not what he thinks of himself
sometimes you pay for a guys potential and not just their achievements .
both Lamar and Burrow deserve to be paid! As does Nick!
When I see Nick, I see a dominating beast of a player, but he is not the heart and soul of the teams defense! Fred is! Aaron Donald for his team is.. as is Micah Parsons! I just see a lot of question marks in his game and leadership quality and injury risks, so I was just sharing my idea that they should offer him more total comp but maybe slightly less guaranteed . Let's not suffer from recency bias

Nick Bosa is the MVP of the San Francisco 49ers. Warner may be the leader of the defense, but Bosa is the most important player. I don't get how that is even questioned.

Yup, 💯%, and we've learned the hard way what happens when you trade away an elite edge rusher. Charles Haley anyone?

That still hurts.
Originally posted by eman:
Originally posted by evil:

Lol. Exactly .. how do u know I'm a troll and an eagles fan

this is what I hate about numb nut fans .. someone comes here to share their opinion and ideas with fellow minded and bright fans to get their opinions, instead of countering with facts or smart responses, some want to act like they are hot stuff .
I gave my opinion, and I have yet to see quality responses besides one or two posters whom I respect here

niner85, I thought you were decent dude, but I see you're just like the rest of them

Personally, I appreciate the fact that you shared your opinions, especially in a way that wasn't trolling. You're absolutely right that this should be a place for all fans to share their opinions on the greatest team in the league. If everyone here shared the exact same view this would be the lamest echo chamber on the web. I'm sorry if you felt attacked, I disagree wholeheartedly with your opinion but appreciate it nonetheless.
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Originally posted by eman:
Ok genius …
What I'm saying is .. let's say his camp is asking for 150 total 100 guaranteed
counter with 165 total 85 guaranteed
again .. he should be highest paid defensive player .. I agree .. but we don't want the same mess we had with Dee Ford

Dee Ford?? Bosa has already done more than that fool.

you're the one talking about making it an incentive deal…which NO player will sign in his position. Grow up
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by eman:
Originally posted by evil:

Lol. Exactly .. how do u know I'm a troll and an eagles fan

this is what I hate about numb nut fans .. someone comes here to share their opinion and ideas with fellow minded and bright fans to get their opinions, instead of countering with facts or smart responses, some want to act like they are hot stuff .
I gave my opinion, and I have yet to see quality responses besides one or two posters whom I respect here

niner85, I thought you were decent dude, but I see you're just like the rest of them

Personally, I appreciate the fact that you shared your opinions, especially in a way that wasn't trolling. You're absolutely right that this should be a place for all fans to share their opinions on the greatest team in the league. If everyone here shared the exact same view this would be the lamest echo chamber on the web. I'm sorry if you felt attacked, I disagree wholeheartedly with your opinion but appreciate it nonetheless.

Dude I don't think he's an eagles fan. I think he's being pretty dramatic about what Bosa wants and should get. He's one of the best players in football. Just be happy he plays for SF and pay the man.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Sep 3, 2023 at 5:07 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by eman:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I wonder if eman believes Herbert or Lamar, or any QB like Burrow deserves a new deal, without winning a SB yet, Nick is the franchise player, he's IMO heart and soul of the defense with Warner, have no idea why no 49er fan would want NIck to not get extended.

Hey bro .. I'll respond since I respect you and have always respected your opinions! And I'm here to share and learn so correct me if I am wrong .. I'll welcome that

if you look at my original post, I LOVE Nick and want him to be 9er for life!!
but what I was saying is just sharing with other fans that Nick is special but not what he thinks of himself
sometimes you pay for a guys potential and not just their achievements .
both Lamar and Burrow deserve to be paid! As does Nick!
When I see Nick, I see a dominating beast of a player, but he is not the heart and soul of the teams defense! Fred is! Aaron Donald for his team is.. as is Micah Parsons! I just see a lot of question marks in his game and leadership quality and injury risks, so I was just sharing my idea that they should offer him more total comp but maybe slightly less guaranteed . Let's not suffer from recency bias

Nick Bosa is the MVP of the San Francisco 49ers. Warner may be the leader of the defense, but Bosa is the most important player. I don't get how that is even questioned.

Yup, 💯%, and we've learned the hard way what happens when you trade away an elite edge rusher. Charles Haley anyone?

That still hurts.

I was a wee lad and didn't understand why we did that.

My little cousin pissed and pooped everywhere at that time and I thought, what's the big deal?
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by eman:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I wonder if eman believes Herbert or Lamar, or any QB like Burrow deserves a new deal, without winning a SB yet, Nick is the franchise player, he's IMO heart and soul of the defense with Warner, have no idea why no 49er fan would want NIck to not get extended.

Hey bro .. I'll respond since I respect you and have always respected your opinions! And I'm here to share and learn so correct me if I am wrong .. I'll welcome that

if you look at my original post, I LOVE Nick and want him to be 9er for life!!
but what I was saying is just sharing with other fans that Nick is special but not what he thinks of himself
sometimes you pay for a guys potential and not just their achievements .
both Lamar and Burrow deserve to be paid! As does Nick!
When I see Nick, I see a dominating beast of a player, but he is not the heart and soul of the teams defense! Fred is! Aaron Donald for his team is.. as is Micah Parsons! I just see a lot of question marks in his game and leadership quality and injury risks, so I was just sharing my idea that they should offer him more total comp but maybe slightly less guaranteed . Let's not suffer from recency bias

Nick Bosa is the MVP of the San Francisco 49ers. Warner may be the leader of the defense, but Bosa is the most important player. I don't get how that is even questioned.

Yup, 💯%, and we've learned the hard way what happens when you trade away an elite edge rusher. Charles Haley anyone?

Charles Haley had 5 Super Bowls. That is a different conversation but I agree on NO TRADE. Because of the rookie wage cap we have his rights the next 3 years if we so choose. The deal will get done but Paraag is gonna win this deal no matter how long that may be. I have said Bosa is the best player but the leader is Fred Warner. With the Ravens, Ed Reed was the best player but Ray Lewis was the leader and you better believe he was probably the most important throughout his tenure there. Fred has the most All Pros on this team and he is the leader so when you want to gauge the culture on this defense it starts with its leadership and that comes from All Pro Fred. As long as we have Fred on the field we have a chance. If we have Bosa on the field we then add the DPOY and that speaks for itself. Bosa is the best player on defense but I will ride with Fred Warner leading the defense any day because I know he will show up and be ready to sacrifice himself for his brothers week in and week out above all others

That said I believe it is a no brainer to have already offered Bosa DPOY money top salary and top guarantees among all defensive players. He has earned it. Now if he won't accept that then we gotta Crabtree his butt
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Sep 3, 2023 at 2:31 PM ]
Bosa a lifelong Niner yet?
Originally posted by eman:
Hey bro .. I'll respond since I respect you and have always respected your opinions! And I'm here to share and learn so correct me if I am wrong .. I'll welcome that

if you look at my original post, I LOVE Nick and want him to be 9er for life!!
but what I was saying is just sharing with other fans that Nick is special but not what he thinks of himself
sometimes you pay for a guys potential and not just their achievements .
both Lamar and Burrow deserve to be paid! As does Nick!
When I see Nick, I see a dominating beast of a player, but he is not the heart and soul of the teams defense! Fred is! Aaron Donald for his team is.. as is Micah Parsons! I just see a lot of question marks in his game and leadership quality and injury risks, so I was just sharing my idea that they should offer him more total comp but maybe slightly less guaranteed . Let's not suffer from recency bias

I am a huge Fred Warner fan. In fact, he is the only current player I own a jersey of...that's how much I like him.

With that being said, if I had to choose him or Bosa, I'm taking Bosa without thinking twice. Every GM in football would agree.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by eman:
Hey bro .. I'll respond since I respect you and have always respected your opinions! And I'm here to share and learn so correct me if I am wrong .. I'll welcome that

if you look at my original post, I LOVE Nick and want him to be 9er for life!!
but what I was saying is just sharing with other fans that Nick is special but not what he thinks of himself
sometimes you pay for a guys potential and not just their achievements .
both Lamar and Burrow deserve to be paid! As does Nick!
When I see Nick, I see a dominating beast of a player, but he is not the heart and soul of the teams defense! Fred is! Aaron Donald for his team is.. as is Micah Parsons! I just see a lot of question marks in his game and leadership quality and injury risks, so I was just sharing my idea that they should offer him more total comp but maybe slightly less guaranteed . Let's not suffer from recency bias

I am a huge Fred Warner fan. In fact, he is the only current player I own a jersey of...that's how much I like him.

With that being said, if I had to choose him or Bosa, I'm taking Bosa without thinking twice. Every GM in football would agree.

Yes if every team had the chance to pick 1 player from our team, I think at least 90% would choose Bosa.
. . . tick tock, etc. . .
Nick Bosa is a generational talent. This is embarrassing
Originally posted by blizzuntz:

I think I know why Nick wants all that money. He's gonna give a bunch to his brother so his brother comes over here on a vet minimum contract.
There has been a lot said about Nick not being in camp. I would just remind those who are starting to say unkind things about him that it takes two to tango, and if we have offered top dollar, ie better than Donald , it may not be Nick's decision but rather his agent's , to keep the 9ers hanging in a state of "WTF" happened to , or where is Nick? This could be 100% caused not by our side but Nick's agent. Hopefully, if this. Is the case, Nick steps in and says basta! Or enough.

None of us knows for sure, but this could just as easily be an agent holding us up as it could be our guys trying to low ball Nick…and frankly after all Nick has done, and all he has given, i just can't imagine JL or kyle, (i don't know about Paraag) doing that. When this is all over maybe we find out then…but also, maybe not.

Meantime, all those who have had unkind thots about Nick, please remember there are two sides to any contract, and we , for certain, have no idea who or what the hang up is and which side it comes from.. I can't imagine kyle or JL doing that , but i surely can imagine Nick's agent doing so…ie, making unrealistic contract offers…if that is the case, i hope Nick puts an end to it.
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