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Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Bosa and his dumb ass agent need to be f**king realistic

IMO, if all that is separating the team and Bosa is $2M a season, we need to just do it. What the hell is 2 mil when you are talking high 30s a year? Nothing.

Unless it's 2 mil guaranteed a year in a 5 year deal. That's 10mil more in guaranteed.

I mean, that's still nothing to me.

Then you pay it to him. Done deal.

SIlly reply.

I guess it's not nothing to you then. Or maybe you didn't know there was a salary cap.

Another silly reply.

Are you just trying to up your post count? You're adding absolutely nothing to the discussion, but thanks...

Seems like you're fishin for a confrontation.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Even if Bosa holds out for the year, you don't trade him. He'd be too dangerous on another team. Better for the Niners that he doesn't play.

He won't hold out for the year. At max seven weeks. He needs to get credit for this year. And the Niners will still have two years of control on him.

Bosa starts missing game checks in six days. That money is lost forever and is not added to his extension. Tick tock.

The point is that we should not trade him regardless. He's too good to be allowed to play for another team.
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by dj43:
The Chiefs (Chris Jones) and the Panthers (Brian Burns) are both planning to play without their star this weekend. Bosa is the third point in the triangle. Each corner is waiting for one of the other corners to give in. Eventually, all three will sign but who knows when. Three different agents, all seeking to set the bar higher than the other, and becoming The Guy.

Meanwhile, three teams are preparing to play a football games this weekend with the guys they have now with the Chiefs up first this Thursday night. Will Michael Katz and Chris Jones blink first?

https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-qb-patrick-mahomes-prepared-to-play-week-1-without-dl-chris-jones

https://www.nfl.com/news/brian-burns-status-for-panthers-opener-uncertain-amid-contract-dispute

Would the Chiefs consider dealing Jones? I know they win mainly because of Mahomes, and they may just decide to win games because of the offense and just try to get by with an average defense.

The KC FanSider site says there is no way KC will trade Jones. No other team is willing to give up what it would take to get him. KC could trade him to a bottom-feeder but that is not the way the Chiefs do business.
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by dj43:
The Chiefs (Chris Jones) and the Panthers (Brian Burns) are both planning to play without their star this weekend. Bosa is the third point in the triangle. Each corner is waiting for one of the other corners to give in. Eventually, all three will sign but who knows when. Three different agents, all seeking to set the bar higher than the other, and becoming The Guy.

Meanwhile, three teams are preparing to play a football games this weekend with the guys they have now with the Chiefs up first this Thursday night. Will Michael Katz and Chris Jones blink first?

https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-qb-patrick-mahomes-prepared-to-play-week-1-without-dl-chris-jones

https://www.nfl.com/news/brian-burns-status-for-panthers-opener-uncertain-amid-contract-dispute

Would the Chiefs consider dealing Jones? I know they win mainly because of Mahomes, and they may just decide to win games because of the offense and just try to get by with an average defense.

If they're that far apart, he'll either sit out until he needs th$ or they trade him if offered a large enough package. I don't see any way that organization caves to something so far off.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
The point is that we should not trade him regardless. He's too good to be allowed to play for another team.

100% accurate. He's a known entity, draft picks are an unknown and bust frequently (see Trey Lance.) Trading him shows they aren't committed to winning now. IMO.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by dj43:
The Chiefs (Chris Jones) and the Panthers (Brian Burns) are both planning to play without their star this weekend. Bosa is the third point in the triangle. Each corner is waiting for one of the other corners to give in. Eventually, all three will sign but who knows when. Three different agents, all seeking to set the bar higher than the other, and becoming The Guy.

Meanwhile, three teams are preparing to play a football games this weekend with the guys they have now with the Chiefs up first this Thursday night. Will Michael Katz and Chris Jones blink first?

https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-qb-patrick-mahomes-prepared-to-play-week-1-without-dl-chris-jones

https://www.nfl.com/news/brian-burns-status-for-panthers-opener-uncertain-amid-contract-dispute

I think bosa will sign first. I feel like he cares the most about actually playing. Jones has two rings and burns knows Carolina isn't going to win anything this year

I don't think the players in this triangle have a lot of influence. Each of the three agents is looking to make their deal look like the best deal possible. I'm sure all three players want to be back on the field but they will listen to their agents about setting a high bar for other players to benefit from in future negotiations.

This is more about the agents than the players right now, IMO.
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Take this for what it's worth.


It's worth nothing. It's a Reddit post.

Fans sites aren't insiders. They are simply Adam Schefter cosplay.

Well for those that think we're waiting on KC, at least we're not $9.5M apart(not clear if that's per year or total)


I think I heard on First things First today that it was total. On a two year extension. So that would be like 4 mil a year. That's not that far off. Especially considering what Jones will lose this year if he sits out until week 8.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Even if Bosa holds out for the year, you don't trade him. He'd be too dangerous on another team. Better for the Niners that he doesn't play.

He won't hold out for the year. At max seven weeks. He needs to get credit for this year. And the Niners will still have two years of control on him.

Bosa starts missing game checks in six days. That money is lost forever and is not added to his extension. Tick tock.

Then he can sit up in the box for 10 games and then franchise him for 2024..
Originally posted by Bloodless:
I think I heard on First things First today that it was total. On a two year extension. So that would be like 4 mil a year. That's not that far off. Especially considering what Jones will lose this year if he sits out until week 8.

Nobody is going to wait for that. They would lose a year of duty,
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Even if Bosa holds out for the year, you don't trade him. He'd be too dangerous on another team. Better for the Niners that he doesn't play.

He won't hold out for the year. At max seven weeks. He needs to get credit for this year. And the Niners will still have two years of control on him.

Bosa starts missing game checks in six days. That money is lost forever and is not added to his extension. Tick tock.

Then he can sit up in the box for 10 games and then franchise him for 2024..

That would be throwing gasoline on a fire. NOT. GOING. TO. HAPPEN.
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by captveg:
The panic and bitterness in here is wild.

It's just business, people.

Correct. 95% of these people haven't negotiated without a Groupon in their lives. So their emotion takes over.

The Niners have paid top of market to almost every starter worth of it. Crazy to see people act like the FO doesn't have their s**t together after all of these years.

It's just emotion in their posts. No logic.

It's just business, but if they can't figure out a way to get their best player out onto the field week 1, then they decidedly do not have their s**t together.

You're saying this not having any context. What if Bosa is asking for $40m??? We just don't know. Why does this board default to blame the FO that is one of the best in the league. Why is it the FO that has to cave and make the team less viable long term? Why can't Bosa take a top non-QB contract?

Any questions you have about the FO can be used on Bosa's camp as well. We have zero context on what they're negotiating at this point.
Nines fans can spin it how they want but Bosa missing any time even week 1 is a MEGA fail by this organization.
Originally posted by Bloodless:
Originally posted by magic49:
He is good but not worth qb money! Trade him if he doesn't take 30 million a year

Look at it like this. Would two 15 million a year players bring the same value to the team as the reigning defensive player of the year? I don think so or at least chances are they wouldn't. Even taking into account the two first round picks you would get. Those guys still cost money and you have to hit on the draft picks. Now obviously their is always a line of how high your willing to pay Bosa but no question his fair market value is to be the highest paid non QB contract.
Not their strong point either, Kinlaw, Lance, Thomas, Foster were/are awful. And McGlinchey was meh. Aiyuk and Bosa are their two hits. For me it's 3 first rounders plus Sauce Gardner. Or Aidan Hutchinson and 3 first rounders. Or Sewell and Hutchinson and 1 first rounder. Only deals I would make and they are ridiculous and so would never happen.
[ Edited by Rathof44 on Sep 4, 2023 at 3:49 PM ]
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Even if Bosa holds out for the year, you don't trade him. He'd be too dangerous on another team. Better for the Niners that he doesn't play.

He won't hold out for the year. At max seven weeks. He needs to get credit for this year. And the Niners will still have two years of control on him.

Bosa starts missing game checks in six days. That money is lost forever and is not added to his extension. Tick tock.

Then he can sit up in the box for 10 games and then franchise him for 2024..

That would be throwing gasoline on a fire. NOT. GOING. TO. HAPPEN.

He can not play for two years. Let's what that does to his leverage.
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Nines fans can spin it how they want but Bosa missing any time even week 1 is a MEGA fail by this organization.

A win is a WIN!!
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