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Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
If they're that far apart, he'll either sit out until he needs th$ or they trade him if offered a large enough package. I don't see any way that organization caves to something so far off.

And when the Niners miss the playoffs, JL can say well we saved money. And I am sure the fans will be like "ok well that makes it ok then, Where do I get my season tickets for next season"?

I think the team is good enough to still make the playoffs without Bosa, but certainly wouldn't be a contender. My concern is that the longer this draws out, home field advantage could be at stake. This 1st game happens to be one of the toughest of the season.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Nines fans can spin it how they want but Bosa missing any time even week 1 is a MEGA fail by this organization.

This isn't about the "organization."

Each side has a "want" that is significant. Each agent wants to set a higher bar than the next one. The Players' Union wants a higher bar for the next round and agents are only too willing to comply.

League owners don't want one of their members to go off the tracks with a deal like the Watson contract that blows the top of the market. Hence, if the SF FO yields to an over-the-top demand, Jed will have hell to pay at the next owners' meeting. All of that in addition to the fact that the team has some very good players they want to keep next season and beyond. If they break the bank now for Bosa, they can say good bye to BA and what about Purdy in another year after that?

Enough with the "blame the organization" talk.

Na.....give it all to Bosa.
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Nines fans can spin it how they want but Bosa missing any time even week 1 is a MEGA fail by this organization.

This isn't about the "organization."

Each side has a "want" that is significant. Each agent wants to set a higher bar than the next one. The Players' Union wants a higher bar for the next round and agents are only too willing to comply.

League owners don't want one of their members to go off the tracks with a deal like the Watson contract that blows the top of the market. Hence, if the SF FO yields to an over-the-top demand, Jed will have hell to pay at the next owners' meeting. All of that in addition to the fact that the team has some very good players they want to keep next season and beyond. If they break the bank now for Bosa, they can say good bye to BA and what about Purdy in another year after that?

Enough with the "blame the organization" talk.

Na.....give it all to Bosa.

One would think that after that Trey Lance debacle, this FO would be eager to redeem itself.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Nines fans can spin it how they want but Bosa missing any time even week 1 is a MEGA fail by this organization.

This isn't about the "organization."

Each side has a "want" that is significant. Each agent wants to set a higher bar than the next one. The Players' Union wants a higher bar for the next round and agents are only too willing to comply.

League owners don't want one of their members to go off the tracks with a deal like the Watson contract that blows the top of the market. Hence, if the SF FO yields to an over-the-top demand, Jed will have hell to pay at the next owners' meeting. All of that in addition to the fact that the team has some very good players they want to keep next season and beyond. If they break the bank now for Bosa, they can say good bye to BA and what about Purdy in another year after that?

Enough with the "blame the organization" talk.

Na.....give it all to Bosa.

One would think that after that Trey Lance debacle, this FO would be eager to redeem itself.

For the short sighted.
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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
One would think that after that Trey Lance debacle, this FO would be eager to redeem itself.

?????

From what?! They were in the NFCC AGAIN with their 3rd string QB.
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Nines fans can spin it how they want but Bosa missing any time even week 1 is a MEGA fail by this organization.

So the Chiets, who everyone thinks are the standard, are also a mega fail?

you clearly have zero experience in negotiating contracts. I do it for a living.

good luck trying to be the hero that gets all done on your timeline.

I don't care about your experience. Not having your most important player on the field in a sport if a fail. Keep thinking its positive though.
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Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Nines fans can spin it how they want but Bosa missing any time even week 1 is a MEGA fail by this organization.

So the Chiets, who everyone thinks are the standard, are also a mega fail?

you clearly have zero experience in negotiating contracts. I do it for a living.

good luck trying to be the hero that gets all done on your timeline.

I don't care about your experience. Not having your most important player on the field in a sport if a fail. Keep thinking its positive though.

It's not positive. It's also not the fault of the FO if Bosa's ask is asinine.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
One would think that after that Trey Lance debacle, this FO would be eager to redeem itself.

Would the FO be redeemed if they paid Bosa such a staggering amount that in the future they cannot sign some of their vital pieces? If they didn't win the Super Bowl (at least once) before those stars left, that redemption would be pretty short lived.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
One would think that after that Trey Lance debacle, this FO would be eager to redeem itself.

?????

From what?! They were in the NFCC AGAIN with their 3rd string QB.

Well, if they're willing to flush 1st round draft picks down the toilet on an unknown, but so tight when it comes to paying proven players that it could cost the team, it makes them look silly.
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
One would think that after that Trey Lance debacle, this FO would be eager to redeem itself.

Would the FO be redeemed if they paid Bosa such a staggering amount that in the future they cannot sign some of their vital pieces? If they didn't win the Super Bowl (at least once) before those stars left, that redemption would be pretty short lived.

This is the case whether they sign Bosa or not. This roster is top heavy and unsustainable. We have this year and maybe next before Purdy gets paid to pull it off.
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Would the FO be redeemed if they paid Bosa such a staggering amount that in the future they cannot sign some of their vital pieces? If they didn't win the Super Bowl (at least once) before those stars left, that redemption would be pretty short lived.

Who is more vital on this team than the best DE in the league. It's the 2nd most important position. QB is the only position that trumps DE and Purdy is cheap for the next 3 years.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Would the FO be redeemed if they paid Bosa such a staggering amount that in the future they cannot sign some of their vital pieces? If they didn't win the Super Bowl (at least once) before those stars left, that redemption would be pretty short lived.

Who is more vital on this team than the best DE in the league. It's the 2nd most important position. QB is the only position that trumps DE and Purdy is cheap for the next 3 years.

Houston win anything meaningful?
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Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
One would think that after that Trey Lance debacle, this FO would be eager to redeem itself.

?????

From what?! They were in the NFCC AGAIN with their 3rd string QB.

Well, if they're willing to flush 1st round draft picks down the toilet on an unknown, but so tight when it comes to paying proven players that it could cost the team, it makes them look silly.

Why are you assuming the FO is cheap? They've paid massive deal literally every off-season. What if Bosa is asking for $40m??

They have a team to run.
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
One would think that after that Trey Lance debacle, this FO would be eager to redeem itself.

Would the FO be redeemed if they paid Bosa such a staggering amount that in the future they cannot sign some of their vital pieces? If they didn't win the Super Bowl (at least once) before those stars left, that redemption would be pretty short lived.

I don't think Bosa is asking for such an unreasonable amount, almost every report has been similar to the next in that he wants to be the highest paid defender. The hangup is likely in some of the small details or language, but I can't see how I could be important enough to possibly cost a game. Get the deal done now, then take a year or even 2 to figure out how to make it work better for the team.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
This is the case whether they sign Bosa or not. This roster is top heavy and unsustainable. We have this year and maybe next before Purdy gets paid to pull it off.

And I think this is the primary consideration for the FO. They know they have tough decisions to make over the next few years. And, as much as Bosa may not like it, the FO has to consider the team's future / sustainability.
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