DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Jcool:

Most pressures this season:

Nick Bosa 44
Dexter Lawrence 44
Maxx Crosby 43
Micah Parsons 43
Aidan Hutchinson 42
Josh Sweat 40
Josh Allen 39
George Karlaftis 39

— Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) October 30, 2023

im not anti Bosa by any means but context. Cowboys have had their bye week and Lions and Raiders play tonight. So he's high but not really #1.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
im not anti Bosa by any means but context. Cowboys have had their bye week and Lions and Raiders play tonight. So he's high but not really #1.

The point is that he's getting pressure (people think he isn't).

The issue is that teams are exploiting the underneath routes (which are wide-ass open), this negating the pressure he's getting.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by dj43:
Change the scheme. Change the results.

Shanahan needs to send Wilks to the film room for the next two weeks and LEARN. Bosa is still the same player he has always been. Currently, he leads the league in QB hits. The difference this year is instead of playing a lot of press man, Wilks is playing a soft zone which allows the QB to get rid of the ball quicker before Bosa can finish the job.

It is hard to say if it is that matching zone or man we are seeing a lot of....whatever it is...QBs are reading it super fast, and OCs are pulling coverage out of the passing lanes at will.

I am with you.... Bosa is not the problem...dude leads the league in QB hits...he is still getting to the QB as much as anyone...

The problem is QBs know where to go with the ball VERY quickly.

How anyone can hear "best game of the season" over and over again against this defense and point at Bosa is beyond me.

Every damn week... some RB is having his best outing, or some QB is having his best outing....

The other team knows EXACTLY where and when to pick up blocks in the run game, and EXACTLY how to beat coverage.....heck it feels like they know it pre-snap most of the time.

This is almost comical.

so we should celebrate the fact that Bosa hits the quarterback right after he throws the touchdown pass?? He needs to get back on whatever height he was on before he got paid. Has there ever been a drop off from a defensive player of the year like we are seeing with Bosa?

You can do whatever you wish....

Most people will see the 49ers lead the NFL QB knockdowns, then also see the 49ers are allowing nearly 70% of passes being completed against them and tend to lean away from the line when it comes time to start pointing fingers. Once you add in time from snap to the time of the throw it really paints a picture that leans against Nick Bosa being the problem.

Time till throw is not out for this week yet, but Kirk Cousins was at 2.2 seconds last week( Cousins average this season is 2.6 seconds). So not only was he getting rid of the ball much faster, he also hit 78% of his passes against the 49ers.

Teams are getting the ball out significantly faster against the 49ers than what the league averages...and somehow the defense still leads the league in QB hits.

The 49ers need an entire coverage overhaul.

End of the day, whatever the excuses, Bosa has absolutely sucked. What an awful extension

Originally posted by Method:
End of the day, whatever the excuses, Bosa has absolutely sucked. What an awful extension

He's currently tied at #63 In the league for sack leaders with 3 sacks and we're yet to have our bye-week.

Originally posted by Method:
End of the day, whatever the excuses, Bosa has absolutely sucked. What an awful extension

Have you been reading any of the data mentioned in the previous few posts?

The coverage schemes Wilks has been running have allowed opponent receivers to get open in record time.

If Wilks were to go back to the same schemes Ryans was running last year, which took away a lot of those quick releases, Bosa would be leading the league in sacks.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Most pressures this season:

Nick Bosa 44
Dexter Lawrence 44
Maxx Crosby 43
Micah Parsons 43
Aidan Hutchinson 42
Josh Sweat 40
Josh Allen 39
George Karlaftis 39

— Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) October 30, 2023

im not anti Bosa by any means but context. Cowboys have had their bye week and Lions and Raiders play tonight. So he's high but not really #1.

Those other guys are getting sacks. Bosa isn't. Pressure is great but good QBs hang in the pocket and complete those passes even when pressured. He lead the league last season in sacks. This year he has 3 in 8 games. Sorry, but when you're getting paid as much as he is you have to produce.

nice, back to the defending pressures stage

Originally posted by Jcool:

Most pressures this season:

Nick Bosa 44
Dexter Lawrence 44
Maxx Crosby 43
Micah Parsons 43
Aidan Hutchinson 42
Josh Sweat 40
Josh Allen 39
George Karlaftis 39

— Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) October 30, 2023

I have no interest in PFF numbers only thing I go by is The QB on the ground and he aint getting it done.

Originally posted by bud49:
I have no interest in PFF numbers only thing I go by is The QB on the ground and he aint getting it done.

Bill Belichick goes by pressures not sacks but what does a defensive coaching guru and an 8 time Super Bowl winning coach know ?

"I think if you look at the overall passing game, the statistic that stands out the most in terms of correlation is pressure. So pressure on the quarterback leads to more bad plays than sacks do, in terms of turnovers unless you have strip sacks, obviously. That's the No. 1. After that, pressures cause bad throws and potentially turnovers."

Belichick noted that the pass rush comes down to team defense, tethering the production of the pass rush to the quality of coverage and vice versa. But his note about focusing on strip sacks and pressure while devaluing sacks is a unique insight. Sacks make players money, but they may not be tied to winning football games. Winning the turnover differential is an enormous part of winning football games. The Los Angeles Rams (+11), New Orleans Saints (+8), Chicago Bears (+14) are in the top five in turnover differential. The Patriots are in the top 10 at +5, a number which is improving as Tom Brady hasn't thrown an interception since Week 7.

So if pressures are tied to turnovers and turnovers are tied to wins, then Belichick's emphasis on pressures follow his cliche: "We do what's best for the team to win games."

Originally posted by Jcool:

Most pressures this season:

Nick Bosa 44
Dexter Lawrence 44
Maxx Crosby 43
Micah Parsons 43
Aidan Hutchinson 42
Josh Sweat 40
Josh Allen 39
George Karlaftis 39

— Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) October 30, 2023

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by bud49:
I have no interest in PFF numbers only thing I go by is The QB on the ground and he aint getting it done.

Bill Belichick goes by pressures not sacks but what does a defensive coaching guru and an 8 time Super Bowl winning coach know ?

"I think if you look at the overall passing game, the statistic that stands out the most in terms of correlation is pressure. So pressure on the quarterback leads to more bad plays than sacks do, in terms of turnovers unless you have strip sacks, obviously. That's the No. 1. After that, pressures cause bad throws and potentially turnovers."

Belichick noted that the pass rush comes down to team defense, tethering the production of the pass rush to the quality of coverage and vice versa. But his note about focusing on strip sacks and pressure while devaluing sacks is a unique insight. Sacks make players money, but they may not be tied to winning football games. Winning the turnover differential is an enormous part of winning football games. The Los Angeles Rams (+11), New Orleans Saints (+8), Chicago Bears (+14) are in the top five in turnover differential. The Patriots are in the top 10 at +5, a number which is improving as Tom Brady hasn't thrown an interception since Week 7.

So if pressures are tied to turnovers and turnovers are tied to wins, then Belichick's emphasis on pressures follow his cliche: "We do what's best for the team to win games."

I just see the results of pressure in the last two games and to me it hasn't worked out all that great they were L's.

Originally posted by bud49:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by bud49:
I have no interest in PFF numbers only thing I go by is The QB on the ground and he aint getting it done.

Bill Belichick goes by pressures not sacks but what does a defensive coaching guru and an 8 time Super Bowl winning coach know ?

"I think if you look at the overall passing game, the statistic that stands out the most in terms of correlation is pressure. So pressure on the quarterback leads to more bad plays than sacks do, in terms of turnovers unless you have strip sacks, obviously. That's the No. 1. After that, pressures cause bad throws and potentially turnovers."

Belichick noted that the pass rush comes down to team defense, tethering the production of the pass rush to the quality of coverage and vice versa. But his note about focusing on strip sacks and pressure while devaluing sacks is a unique insight. Sacks make players money, but they may not be tied to winning football games. Winning the turnover differential is an enormous part of winning football games. The Los Angeles Rams (+11), New Orleans Saints (+8), Chicago Bears (+14) are in the top five in turnover differential. The Patriots are in the top 10 at +5, a number which is improving as Tom Brady hasn't thrown an interception since Week 7.

So if pressures are tied to turnovers and turnovers are tied to wins, then Belichick's emphasis on pressures follow his cliche: "We do what's best for the team to win games."

I just see the results of pressure in the last two games and to me it hasn't worked out all that great they were L's.

Hey man, that pressure they got on Burrows was a game changer - once Burrows escaped and threw a DART for a 1st down.