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DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS
Sep 30, 2024 at 2:42 AM
- kujon11
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it helps when the we've got a two score lead and the other team can't run the ball.
Sep 30, 2024 at 2:59 AM
- Cisco0623
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He def wasn't 100% against the rams.
Sep 30, 2024 at 3:48 AM
- Pillbusta
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Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Hes the longest tenured player on the Dline and with AA gone I think he feels a way to speak more like a leader of the team and a captain. Or maybe I'm just reading into this too much lol
No he's becoming more of a vocal leader and that's good because for a long time now Warner has been the leader of the defense. Bosa is making a concerted effort to be even more of a leader himself and we expect that
Sep 30, 2024 at 4:07 AM
- miked1978
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Does anyone have stats on win rate vs 1 man or 2 man? He's constantly doubled and i saw one play he was chipped by the RB or TE and then doubled by the oline. Its ridiculous how much attention he commands. He'll never have the sack numbers at that rate.
Sep 30, 2024 at 4:13 AM
- NYniner85
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Great game. Keep it up Bosa
Sep 30, 2024 at 4:24 AM
- Willisfn4life
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Bosa was "good" last season. He's been "good" this season's first three games. This was game wrecking Bosa though. That was fun to watch.
Sep 30, 2024 at 7:37 AM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by miked1978:
Does anyone have stats on win rate vs 1 man or 2 man? He's constantly doubled and i saw one play he was chipped by the RB or TE and then doubled by the oline. Its ridiculous how much attention he commands. He'll never have the sack numbers at that rate.
Bosa isn't constantly doubled. Sometimes he is but often times he isn't. Early in the game he was being moved by one guy on many occasions. He was driven back or ridden around the QB. In the 4th quarter near the end he was beating whoever it was that they had on him. I don't know if it was a different tackle or the guy was just tired but Nick was going right around him nearly untouched. He looked like T J Watt does all game long.
Bosa's biggest problem is he just isn't closing the deal. He gets pressure but isn't getting the sack. QB hurries are great but if they get the pass away it can still be a completion. Get him on the ground.
Sep 30, 2024 at 8:22 AM
- miked1978
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Does anyone have stats on win rate vs 1 man or 2 man? He's constantly doubled and i saw one play he was chipped by the RB or TE and then doubled by the oline. Its ridiculous how much attention he commands. He'll never have the sack numbers at that rate.
Bosa isn't constantly doubled. Sometimes he is but often times he isn't. Early in the game he was being moved by one guy on many occasions. He was driven back or ridden around the QB. In the 4th quarter near the end he was beating whoever it was that they had on him. I don't know if it was a different tackle or the guy was just tired but Nick was going right around him nearly untouched. He looked like T J Watt does all game long.
Bosa's biggest problem is he just isn't closing the deal. He gets pressure but isn't getting the sack. QB hurries are great but if they get the pass away it can still be a completion. Get him on the ground.
Last year Bosa was doubled 26% of the time per ESPN. Not sure if that # is true double teams or does it count where the back chips him.
According to PFF he's been "Chipped" 16% of the time this year.
Sep 30, 2024 at 8:27 AM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Does anyone have stats on win rate vs 1 man or 2 man? He's constantly doubled and i saw one play he was chipped by the RB or TE and then doubled by the oline. Its ridiculous how much attention he commands. He'll never have the sack numbers at that rate.
Bosa isn't constantly doubled. Sometimes he is but often times he isn't. Early in the game he was being moved by one guy on many occasions. He was driven back or ridden around the QB. In the 4th quarter near the end he was beating whoever it was that they had on him. I don't know if it was a different tackle or the guy was just tired but Nick was going right around him nearly untouched. He looked like T J Watt does all game long.
Bosa's biggest problem is he just isn't closing the deal. He gets pressure but isn't getting the sack. QB hurries are great but if they get the pass away it can still be a completion. Get him on the ground.
Last year Bosa was doubled 26% of the time per ESPN. Not sure if that # is true double teams or does it count where the back chips him.
According to PFF he's been "Chipped" 16% of the time this year.
I'm pretty sure that includes chip blocks. Those can be enough to slow a pass rusher. It doesn't really matter since every good pass rusher gets doubled, chipped and held. Bosa isn't alone in that area. We need to keep yesterday in perspective. The Pats have a terrible O line. The Jet sacked Brissett 7 times last week. The Niners entire D line was creating pressure all day.It's why NE doesn't want to play Drake Maye. They're saving him from suffering from what happened to Jim Plunkett.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Sep 30, 2024 at 8:58 AM ]
Sep 30, 2024 at 11:03 AM
- Dshearn
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Does anyone have stats on win rate vs 1 man or 2 man? He's constantly doubled and i saw one play he was chipped by the RB or TE and then doubled by the oline. Its ridiculous how much attention he commands. He'll never have the sack numbers at that rate.
Bosa isn't constantly doubled. Sometimes he is but often times he isn't. Early in the game he was being moved by one guy on many occasions. He was driven back or ridden around the QB. In the 4th quarter near the end he was beating whoever it was that they had on him. I don't know if it was a different tackle or the guy was just tired but Nick was going right around him nearly untouched. He looked like T J Watt does all game long.
Bosa's biggest problem is he just isn't closing the deal. He gets pressure but isn't getting the sack. QB hurries are great but if they get the pass away it can still be a completion. Get him on the ground.
Was it the jets game? They were doubling the other side?
Bosa has had lots of single blocks....of course, after the game he just had ..I am sure teams will go back to doubling him
Sep 30, 2024 at 11:10 AM
- frenchmov
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Originally posted by miked1978:
Does anyone have stats on win rate vs 1 man or 2 man? He's constantly doubled and i saw one play he was chipped by the RB or TE and then doubled by the oline. Its ridiculous how much attention he commands. He'll never have the sack numbers at that rate.
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Sep 30, 2024 at 12:17 PM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Does anyone have stats on win rate vs 1 man or 2 man? He's constantly doubled and i saw one play he was chipped by the RB or TE and then doubled by the oline. Its ridiculous how much attention he commands. He'll never have the sack numbers at that rate.
Bosa isn't constantly doubled. Sometimes he is but often times he isn't. Early in the game he was being moved by one guy on many occasions. He was driven back or ridden around the QB. In the 4th quarter near the end he was beating whoever it was that they had on him. I don't know if it was a different tackle or the guy was just tired but Nick was going right around him nearly untouched. He looked like T J Watt does all game long.
Bosa's biggest problem is he just isn't closing the deal. He gets pressure but isn't getting the sack. QB hurries are great but if they get the pass away it can still be a completion. Get him on the ground.
Was it the jets game? They were doubling the other side?
Bosa has had lots of single blocks....of course, after the game he just had ..I am sure teams will go back to doubling him
Any good offense chooses when and who to double since that leaves another player free. They have to keep the defense off guard as much as possible. They can disguise double team blocks the same way defenses can disguise blitzes. If it looks like you're going to be doubled teamed you may use a different rush technique.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Sep 30, 2024 at 12:19 PM ]
Sep 30, 2024 at 1:22 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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This is cashing in and checking out.
Rashan Gary's pass-rush win % at @PFF is 3.0% through 4 games. It was 17.3% in 2022. It was 16% in 2023. Concern level rising.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) September 30, 2024
Sep 30, 2024 at 1:27 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
This is cashing in and checking out.
Rashan Gary's pass-rush win % at @PFF is 3.0% through 4 games. It was 17.3% in 2022. It was 16% in 2023. Concern level rising.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) September 30, 2024
How to summit a wu ghost
Sep 30, 2024 at 1:30 PM
- Cisco0623
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
This is cashing in and checking out.
Rashan Gary's pass-rush win % at @PFF is 3.0% through 4 games. It was 17.3% in 2022. It was 16% in 2023. Concern level rising.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) September 30, 2024
How to summit a wu ghost
Was it you who said he's not a first rounder and is just too slow? I remember someone saying Gary isn't bad, he's just not a first rounder that gets after the QB etc.