DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
All you people who think he sucks, well, he's probably gonna be out the next 2 games. I'm sure the defense will look better out there against Green Bay without him.

We are going to get pounded

Feel like I've been holding my breath since the beginning of the season for us to get healthy but every game we have a core player get hurt as soon as we get reinforcements.

We need to take the division don't see us getting the wildcard. Getting Greenlaw and Hufanga back should be huge, Brown and Campbell have been abysmal stepping in.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
All you people who think he sucks, well, he's probably gonna be out the next 2 games. I'm sure the defense will look better out there against Green Bay without him.

We are going to get pounded

They were going to get pounded with or without him in there lol

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
All you people who think he sucks, well, he's probably gonna be out the next 2 games. I'm sure the defense will look better out there against Green Bay without him.

We are going to get pounded

Well maybe, I think there maybe an ever slight case of Fraud to the Packers right now. I could be wrong but it may go our way.

Despite the time he missed Bosa had the most qb hits, tackles for loss, he was tied for most sacks 1.5 and solo tackles. It was obvious when he was out, a 4 man rush put no pressure on Geno Smith. Definitely the last 4 minutes of the game was poorly coached by SF. Their one drive started at the SF 37 and was too conservative. Then on the ensuing Seattle possession without Nick Bosa they only rushed more than 4 one time and allowed two Smith scrambles for 15 yards.

Originally posted by BobS:
Despite the time he missed Bosa had the most qb hits, tackles for loss, he was tied for most sacks 1.5 and solo tackles. It was obvious when he was out, a 4 man rush put no pressure on Geno Smith. Definitely the last 4 minutes of the game was poorly coached by SF. Their one drive started at the SF 37 and was too conservative. Then on the ensuing Seattle possession without Nick Bosa they only rushed more than 4 one time and allowed two Smith scrambles for 15 yards.

no doubt Bosa is the best player on the Dline, and him being out only shows had far our line as a whole has fallen. There's almost nothing outside of Bosa. I'm sure we'll see Bosa's value over the next two games when he's out. it will not be pretty

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by BobS:
Despite the time he missed Bosa had the most qb hits, tackles for loss, he was tied for most sacks 1.5 and solo tackles. It was obvious when he was out, a 4 man rush put no pressure on Geno Smith. Definitely the last 4 minutes of the game was poorly coached by SF. Their one drive started at the SF 37 and was too conservative. Then on the ensuing Seattle possession without Nick Bosa they only rushed more than 4 one time and allowed two Smith scrambles for 15 yards.

no doubt Bosa is the best player on the Dline, and him being out only shows had far our line as a whole has fallen. There's almost nothing outside of Bosa. I'm sure we'll see Bosa's value over the next two games when he's out. it will not be pretty

Our offense would have to score 40+ to win, and we know that isn't happening.

Originally posted by Since07:
Feel like I've been holding my breath since the beginning of the season for us to get healthy but every game we have a core player get hurt as soon as we get reinforcements.

We need to take the division don't see us getting the wildcard. Getting Greenlaw and Hufanga back should be huge, Brown and Campbell have been abysmal stepping in.

Getting CMC back was supposed to wake up the offense. How'd that go?

I hate being pessimistic but this team just seems off this year. Missing the playoffs may be the best thing for them...maybe re-ignite the fire in some of the vets who seem to be coasting.

Sucks for the guys giving their full effort...

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by OhioNiner:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by boast:
but...but...but i couldnt see a difference

Seahawks with Nick Bosa on the field Sunday: 3.3 yards per play

Seahawks with Bosa off the field: 6.1 yards per play

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) November 18, 2024

He could have 30 sacks and someone will still say he sucks.

Probably. Although not that many because sacks are all they want.

In a way I get it. I want to see the sacks too. I'm sure Bosa wants to see the sacks. He's still had 7 this year in 10 games played. That's on pace for an 11-12 sack season which, from the time I was a kid, I would have considered pretty good. The all time sacks leader, Bruce Smith, averaged about, actually just under 12 sacks a season. Obviously he had some bigger years and not as big of years in there. But that's impactful.

I'll guarantee when they are game planning head coaches, OL coaches, and offensive coordinators aren't saying, "We don't need to pay a lot of attention to Bosa anymore. He ain't worth what they're paying him." Doesn't matter if you show win rates, pressures, or even good old fashioned sacks. Someone will complain.

I enjoy the internet for so many reasons. But it has opened the door to the laziest, dumbest thinking and whiniest people imaginable. They don't even try to have an independent thought. So and so said this and even if it's sketchy at best I agree with it so I'm just going to take it and run with it. Oh, look. A bunch of people are complaining about Bosa's lack of sacks. Yeah, Bosa sucks man! Stupid hat!

yup 100%, and 12 sacks when he is really the only guy on the d line who is a threat is even more impressive because you know the gameplan is to neutralize him. .

I've mentioned this before but since it's a hot topic I'll bring it up again. When Bosa is chip blocked, and the 49ers are playing zone, it reduces the effectiveness of the route combinations. You beat zone by stretching them. You stretch them with routes all working in unison with one another. Having 5 route runners is better for the offense than having 4 routes + one delayed route because the RB/TE has to chip block Bosa prior to running his route. Dedicating a route runner to chip blocking allows the LBs to get more depth on their zone drop for better coverage. It's all related and it has to do with offenses having to chip block Bosa with a RB, a TE, or a slot WR. If that stat about yards per play with versus without Bosa doesn't provide concrete proof to Bosa's impact, then you need to look past raw stats (sacks, pressures).

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Since07:
Feel like I've been holding my breath since the beginning of the season for us to get healthy but every game we have a core player get hurt as soon as we get reinforcements.

We need to take the division don't see us getting the wildcard. Getting Greenlaw and Hufanga back should be huge, Brown and Campbell have been abysmal stepping in.

Getting CMC back was supposed to wake up the offense. How'd that go?

I hate being pessimistic but this team just seems off this year. Missing the playoffs may be the best thing for them...maybe re-ignite the fire in some of the vets who seem to be coasting.

Sucks for the guys giving their full effort...

You aren't being pessimistic. Like I posted elsewhere this season started poorly with the training camp holdouts and the news that CMC had double achilles tendinitis. Those were the first of what has been a year of bad breaks. Sometimes it just happens.

The offense is supposed to be the strength of the team but with major weapons constantly going down with injury they've never been able to really get going. Purdy was without his 2 leading weapons after Aiyuk got injured. Deebo hasn't been able to make up for that loss and Pearsall had to overcome a gunshot. Kittle has been the best target along with Jennings but that's not enough.