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Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.

Irerally believe they need to change up the defensive scheme next year. If that means another new DC then so be it. When the wide 9 came into vogue there weren't as many teams running the offense that the Niners use. Now several teams use some form of the zone run blocking and it seems to be effective against the Niners style of defense. We are too predictable.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.

Right in line. Defend to the end.

Did our DL which includes Bosa get that kind of consistent pressure on Love......not. again, what are we paying for?
[ Edited by TD49ers on Dec 6, 2024 at 9:10 AM ]
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.

Right in line. Defend to the end.

Did our DL which includes Bosa get that kind of consistent pressure on Love......not. again, what are we paying for?

I'm going to politely refuse discussing football with you.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.

Irerally believe they need to change up the defensive scheme next year. If that means another new DC then so be it. When the wide 9 came into vogue there weren't as many teams running the offense that the Niners use. Now several teams use some form of the zone run blocking and it seems to be effective against the Niners style of defense. We are too predictable.

Gym Shorts has been running the wide 9 for a long time and has had pretty consistent success. I'm no expert on the wide 9 but if it's similar to the Staleys 1.5 gap scheme it requires the horses to run it and I feel we only have one horse with a few ponies.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.

Right in line. Defend to the end.

Did our DL which includes Bosa get that kind of consistent pressure on Love......not. again, what are we paying for?

I'm going to politely refuse discussing football with you.

Thats like Jimmy Cult type offended.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.

Irerally believe they need to change up the defensive scheme next year. If that means another new DC then so be it. When the wide 9 came into vogue there weren't as many teams running the offense that the Niners use. Now several teams use some form of the zone run blocking and it seems to be effective against the Niners style of defense. We are too predictable.

Gym Shorts has been running the wide 9 for a long time and has had pretty consistent success. I'm no expert on the wide 9 but if it's similar to the Staleys 1.5 gap scheme it requires the horses to run it and I feel we only have one horse with a few ponies.

It can be successful if everyone is healthy, young and fast. This isn't the Niner defense right now. Without big interior guys to tke on all the blockers the LBs can't come in and make the takles. It makes them vulnerable to the run and we've seen it over and over this year. They seldom blitz and they don't do it well when they do. They try to get pressure with a stright 4 man rush. When they face 5 blockers and sometimes 6 they need to over power these guys and this D line can't do that on any consitent basis. They've been trying to find a good edge rusher to compliment Bosa but haven't had a lot of success.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Dec 6, 2024 at 12:25 PM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.

Irerally believe they need to change up the defensive scheme next year. If that means another new DC then so be it. When the wide 9 came into vogue there weren't as many teams running the offense that the Niners use. Now several teams use some form of the zone run blocking and it seems to be effective against the Niners style of defense. We are too predictable.

Gym Shorts has been running the wide 9 for a long time and has had pretty consistent success. I'm no expert on the wide 9 but if it's similar to the Staleys 1.5 gap scheme it requires the horses to run it and I feel we only have one horse with a few ponies.

It can be successful if everyone is healthy, young and fast. This isn't the Niner defense right now. Without big interior guys to tke on all the blockers the LBs can't come in and make the takles. It makes them vulnerable to the run and we've seen it over and over this year. They seldom blitz and they don't do it well when they do. They try to get pressure with a stright 4 man rush. When they face 5 blockers and sometimes 6 they need to over power these guys and this D line can't do that on any consitent basis. They've been trying to find a good edge rusher to compliment Bosa but haven't had a lot of success.

Seems like we need to find the next Chris Jones or Aaron Donald. Those guys played all over the line but especially dominant on the interior. AA was not on their level but he was a chess piece used similarly. We need to find at least another AA.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.

Irerally believe they need to change up the defensive scheme next year. If that means another new DC then so be it. When the wide 9 came into vogue there weren't as many teams running the offense that the Niners use. Now several teams use some form of the zone run blocking and it seems to be effective against the Niners style of defense. We are too predictable.

Gym Shorts has been running the wide 9 for a long time and has had pretty consistent success. I'm no expert on the wide 9 but if it's similar to the Staleys 1.5 gap scheme it requires the horses to run it and I feel we only have one horse with a few ponies.

It can be successful if everyone is healthy, young and fast. This isn't the Niner defense right now. Without big interior guys to tke on all the blockers the LBs can't come in and make the takles. It makes them vulnerable to the run and we've seen it over and over this year. They seldom blitz and they don't do it well when they do. They try to get pressure with a stright 4 man rush. When they face 5 blockers and sometimes 6 they need to over power these guys and this D line can't do that on any consitent basis. They've been trying to find a good edge rusher to compliment Bosa but haven't had a lot of success.

Seems like we need to find the next Chris Jones or Aaron Donald. Those guys played all over the line but especially dominant on the interior. AA was not on their level but he was a chess piece used similarly. We need to find at least another AA.

That would be great but I'll settle for a decent size guy that can stay healthy.
Bosa needs a girlfriend or something so he can heal up faster
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.

Irerally believe they need to change up the defensive scheme next year. If that means another new DC then so be it. When the wide 9 came into vogue there weren't as many teams running the offense that the Niners use. Now several teams use some form of the zone run blocking and it seems to be effective against the Niners style of defense. We are too predictable.

Gym Shorts has been running the wide 9 for a long time and has had pretty consistent success. I'm no expert on the wide 9 but if it's similar to the Staleys 1.5 gap scheme it requires the horses to run it and I feel we only have one horse with a few ponies.

It can be successful if everyone is healthy, young and fast. This isn't the Niner defense right now. Without big interior guys to tke on all the blockers the LBs can't come in and make the takles. It makes them vulnerable to the run and we've seen it over and over this year. They seldom blitz and they don't do it well when they do. They try to get pressure with a stright 4 man rush. When they face 5 blockers and sometimes 6 they need to over power these guys and this D line can't do that on any consitent basis. They've been trying to find a good edge rusher to compliment Bosa but haven't had a lot of success.

Seems like we need to find the next Chris Jones or Aaron Donald. Those guys played all over the line but especially dominant on the interior. AA was not on their level but he was a chess piece used similarly. We need to find at least another AA.

That would be great but I'll settle for a decent size guy that can stay healthy.

I agree. DJ Jones was underrated. That is what we need. Dont need more entitled players.
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.

Right in line. Defend to the end.

Did our DL which includes Bosa get that kind of consistent pressure on Love......not. again, what are we paying for?

I'm going to politely refuse discussing football with you.

Thats like Jimmy Cult type offended.

No, he's right. Not sure how anyone can say Nick Bosa.....err DPOY winner Nick Bosa... is not elite. Lol. Your opinion, sir, is denied.
Originally posted by raywm3:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Is edge really the most important part of the Dline in winning it all? the past 3-4 SB winners have had elite/top tier DTs.. the Chiefs with Chris Jones, the Rams with Donald. You can make the argument that the Bucs had JPP, but they also had Suh. The last 4 winners of the SB have all had Top DTs. I bring this up not to s**t on Bosa cause obviously hes doing well, but maybe the DE isn't the most important part in winning it all.

It's about having a defensive line unit and depth. Having a stud like Bosa much like the Broncos had with Von Miller is a great first step. But he needs to have a counter punch like Miller got with Ware. There's a lot of phenomenal DTs in the NFL who can't even sniff the playoffs (Jarrett, Pancake eater in NY) so it's not a position group that automatically elevates your squad but pressure up the middle with pressure on the edges is the ultimate cheat code on D.

He just is not elite along with TJ Watt, Garrett. The fact he held out for the most expensive non QB contract and doesnt deliver consistently is disappointing. It is aggravating to read threads of WBzer Bosa Homer's making excuses. He is suppose to be elite. We shouldnt have to go find another elite edge rusher to make him better. It's the other way around.

You just said everyone on the Lions Dline is better than Bosa on your previous post. So your football opinion means as much as Casey Anthonys parental advice.

Right in line. Defend to the end.

Did our DL which includes Bosa get that kind of consistent pressure on Love......not. again, what are we paying for?

I'm going to politely refuse discussing football with you.

Thats like Jimmy Cult type offended.

No, he's right. Not sure how anyone can say Nick Bosa.....err DPOY winner Nick Bosa... is not elite. Lol. Your opinion, sir, is denied.

LOL...was elite.
Starting to wonder if Joey Bosa took the place of Nick.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
i think he's too banged up and old and washed. time to trade our injury prone guys

Agreed.


Can you make these dumb posts for reactions on Twitter? You will fit in much better there

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