It's great when people all start being picky with our Star players.
Our defence was pretty ordinary this year, without Nicky Bosa it would be even worse.
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DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS
Jan 7, 2025 at 6:45 PM
- RonnieLott
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Jan 7, 2025 at 7:59 PM
- Hysterikal
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Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
It still should not happen. He sort of seems soft.
And he whines a lot.
Speaking of whining a lot
Jan 7, 2025 at 8:08 PM
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Bosa had a poor year. He disappeared for long periods of time.
He played injured for a lot of the year though.
At least he got on the field.
They don't care. He is expected to be super human lol
He's paid like he is the best.
He plays like one of the best.
They think this is a video game and he should have 25 sacks a year.
Jan 7, 2025 at 8:12 PM
- Hysterikal
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Bosa had a poor year. He disappeared for long periods of time.
He played injured for a lot of the year though.
At least he got on the field.
They don't care. He is expected to be super human lol
He's paid like he is the best.
He plays like one of the best.
They think this is a video game and he should have 25 sacks a year.
They gonna be real pissed when Brock is getting his bag and not looking like Josh Allen
Jan 8, 2025 at 7:53 AM
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I'm shocked that you find Nick's on-field performance the last two years acceptable considering his salary compared to his season in 2022 BEFORE he got that salary.
I don't think anyone thinks he's not good anymore. I think people like myself have been very disappointed with his play the last two years knowing what he's capable of.
I don't think anyone thinks he's not good anymore. I think people like myself have been very disappointed with his play the last two years knowing what he's capable of.
Jan 8, 2025 at 7:55 AM
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Originally posted by Schulzy:
I'm shocked that you find Nick's on-field performance the last two years acceptable considering his salary compared to his season in 2022 BEFORE he got that salary.
I don't think anyone thinks he's not good anymore. I think people like myself have been very disappointed with his play the last two years knowing what he's capable of.
Cool
Jan 8, 2025 at 7:57 AM
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
I'm shocked that you find Nick's on-field performance the last two years acceptable considering his salary compared to his season in 2022 BEFORE he got that salary.
I don't think anyone thinks he's not good anymore. I think people like myself have been very disappointed with his play the last two years knowing what he's capable of.
Cool
Cool response.
Jan 8, 2025 at 8:00 AM
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Originally posted by Schulzy:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
I'm shocked that you find Nick's on-field performance the last two years acceptable considering his salary compared to his season in 2022 BEFORE he got that salary.
I don't think anyone thinks he's not good anymore. I think people like myself have been very disappointed with his play the last two years knowing what he's capable of.
Cool
Cool response.
It's better than to debate people who only look at box scores for if the player is playing up to the standards they don't hold for themselves all while worrying about other people's money.
Jan 8, 2025 at 8:02 AM
- Schulzy
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
I'm shocked that you find Nick's on-field performance the last two years acceptable considering his salary compared to his season in 2022 BEFORE he got that salary.
I don't think anyone thinks he's not good anymore. I think people like myself have been very disappointed with his play the last two years knowing what he's capable of.
Cool
Cool response.
It's better than to debate people who only look at box scores for if the player is playing up to the standards they don't hold for themselves all while worrying about other people's money.
What evidence do you have that I only look at box scores? You seriously think I don't watch the games is really funny to me.
So I'll ask you, do you think Nick's performance is at the level it was in 2022?
Jan 8, 2025 at 8:07 AM
- Hysterikal
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Originally posted by Schulzy:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
I'm shocked that you find Nick's on-field performance the last two years acceptable considering his salary compared to his season in 2022 BEFORE he got that salary.
I don't think anyone thinks he's not good anymore. I think people like myself have been very disappointed with his play the last two years knowing what he's capable of.
Cool
Cool response.
It's better than to debate people who only look at box scores for if the player is playing up to the standards they don't hold for themselves all while worrying about other people's money.
What evidence do you have that I only look at box scores? You seriously think I don't watch the games is really funny to me.
So I'll ask you, do you think Nick's performance is at the level it was in 2022?
No he was slightly less effective. But was still a top 10 pass rusher in the league who always plays with full effort, has sound gap integrity and was a leader for this team. And yes I think you only care if he's getting sacks and scoff at the idea that pressures are very effective way of showing a players true pass rusher ability.
Jan 8, 2025 at 8:14 AM
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
I'm shocked that you find Nick's on-field performance the last two years acceptable considering his salary compared to his season in 2022 BEFORE he got that salary.
I don't think anyone thinks he's not good anymore. I think people like myself have been very disappointed with his play the last two years knowing what he's capable of.
Cool
Cool response.
It's better than to debate people who only look at box scores for if the player is playing up to the standards they don't hold for themselves all while worrying about other people's money.
What evidence do you have that I only look at box scores? You seriously think I don't watch the games is really funny to me.
So I'll ask you, do you think Nick's performance is at the level it was in 2022?
No he was slightly less effective. But was still a top 10 pass rusher in the league who always plays with full effort, has sound gap integrity and was a leader for this team. And yes I think you only care if he's getting sacks and scoff at the idea that pressures are very effective way of showing a players true pass rusher ability.
I never once said that I think that getting sacks is the only way to measure a player. I DO, however, think that QB pressure is a subjective stat, whereas sacks and QB hits are more black and white.
I also agree with you that he is a top 10 pass rusher in the league but now closer to 10 whereas he was the best in football in 2022. So yes, in a salary cap world where salary and production together matter, it is a big deal when a player's performance declines.
Jan 8, 2025 at 8:18 AM
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Jan 8, 2025 at 8:36 AM
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
I'm shocked that you find Nick's on-field performance the last two years acceptable considering his salary compared to his season in 2022 BEFORE he got that salary.
I don't think anyone thinks he's not good anymore. I think people like myself have been very disappointed with his play the last two years knowing what he's capable of.
Cool
Cool response.
It's better than to debate people who only look at box scores for if the player is playing up to the standards they don't hold for themselves all while worrying about other people's money.
Sacks are the most hollow stat on defense.
There isn't a single person that thinks Nick Bonitto and Kyle van noy are better than Nick yet they were 3rd and 4th in sacks this yr.
Bosa was top 5 in PRWR this yr.
The final top 50 in total HQ pressures among 85 charted pass-rushers
— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) January 8, 2025
Full TPR: https://t.co/s8wAFNb9Qq pic.twitter.com/eAsFCBnGbC
9th overall pass rusher amount all DL according to PFF
SF ran more 4 more rushes than anyone else, never f**ked blitz. Dude had no help anywhere, was consistently dealing with double teams, and still got pressure like a mad man.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 8, 2025 at 8:55 AM ]
Jan 8, 2025 at 4:33 PM
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41040723/2024-nfl-win-rates-top-teams-players-rankings
this plus this:
The final top 50 in total HQ pressures among 85 charted pass-rushers
— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) January 8, 2025
Full TPR: https://t.co/s8wAFNb9Qq pic.twitter.com/eAsFCBnGbC
Shows we have a top 5 Edge Rusher and top 10 DT Rusher in Bosa and Collins.
Jan 8, 2025 at 5:07 PM
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Bosa Rocks.
lets hope he stays uninjured.
lets hope he stays uninjured.