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Originally posted by Silky:
Man I really thought we had a consistent 20+ sack per year guy. I still think he can get back to form next year, but yea I agree with Baldy. Maybe it's that wide 9 BS, poor D coordinator/scheme, no help, etc He still needs to show up. He kind of fades with the rest of the team when things are going bad
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Fred doesn't disappear for long strecthes.
Both great players, but Fred is a better LB than Nick is an end.
Fans don't truly grasp or appreciate how good Fred is. Dude is f**king incredible at anticipating and eliminating route combos, carrying wide receivers and overall just eliminating the middle of the field. Fred is a first-ballot HOFer. Then you factor in the leadership, character, work ethic, and you've got culmination of a player that every GM dreams of drafting.
All facts Hero. I don't blame the average fan though; a lot of what he's doing on a down by down basis is not seen on the broadcast. When you watch the All-22, it's a thing of beauty when as you said, he eliminates the middle of the field. His presence alone, you can see QBs hesitate on testing him, and I don't blame them.
What he's doing in coverage; I honestly can't say that I have ever seen a Mike do, year in year out down in down out. That said; I also can't say that I watch every LB on every team over the years on the All-22, I obviously only watch our Niners.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Fans feel that the Niners need to get a good edge rusher opposite Bosa and there's no question that would help. The problem is it's hard to find a good one that isn't going to cost a fortune. The best bet is trying to find one in the draft and they go early. If they have a choice between a good ege rusher, run stuffing tackle or an O lineman then they have a hard choice to make. They need all 3 positions
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Why can't the thread get political when he's literally being political on the field...
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Why can't the thread get political when he's literally being political on the field...
Because there's a political thread in the other forums and you can take that stuff there. Lets keep this mainly sports, thanks!
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Why can't the thread get political when he's literally being political on the field...
Because there's a political thread in the other forums and you can take that stuff there. Lets keep this mainly sports, thanks!
Yeah but asking fans to keep it separate when the dude himself can't even keep it off the field while being paid millions of dollars and not living up to his contract seems a bit ironic.
Unless your the best imo keep your side interests to the side and work on being the best. If your better than everyone else than you can bring some attention to whatever your into. And bosa ain't no TJ Watt...
trying to disguise it as something else 
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by Silky:Man I really thought we had a consistent 20+ sack per year guy. I still think he can get back to form next year, but yea I agree with Baldy. Maybe it's that wide 9 BS, poor D coordinator/scheme, no help, etc He still needs to show up. He kind of fades with the rest of the team when things are going bad
There's like three or four players in
NFL history that have had multiple 20+ sack seasons.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Fans feel that the Niners need to get a good edge rusher opposite Bosa and there's no question that would help. The problem is it's hard to find a good one that isn't going to cost a fortune. The best bet is trying to find one in the draft and they go early. If they have a choice between a good ege rusher, run stuffing tackle or an O lineman then they have a hard choice to make. They need all 3 positions
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Sure. Trade Bosa and his bloated salary and get some motive hungry players. Could probably get 3 very good DL for the price of Bosa.
Why would you trade the only elite player on the DL? Bosa by just about every metric was still one of the best edge rushers in football. He's still producing pressure, the talent around him has just declined substantially.
They went from Bosa, Buckner, Armstead, DJ Jones, Dee Ford to....
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Silky:
Man I really thought we had a consistent 20+ sack per year guy. I still think he can get back to form next year, but yea I agree with Baldy. Maybe it's that wide 9 BS, poor D coordinator/scheme, no help, etc He still needs to show up. He kind of fades with the rest of the team when things are going bad
There's like three or four players in
NFL history that have had multiple 20+ sack seasons.