DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by 49ersVic:

Tim K at it again:

By Tim Kawakami 33m ago 16
Kyle​ Shanahan and John Lynch are​ trusting​ their guts​ again —​ not about​ football​ talent​ this time​ but about locker-room​ chemistry,​ social​​ interactions and the maturity and judgment level of a possible franchise-changer on defense.
Or Nick Bosa could be a continuous headache and potential franchise embarrassment, it's totally up in the air.
That's a wide range of possible career outcomes for the 49ers' selection with the No. 2 overall pick on Thursday and it takes a tremendously talented player to open up that kind of spectrum. That's how good Bosa might be playing defensive end for the 49ers — book-ending with Dee Ford — and that is obviously why they are so pleased to get him.
But there is risk, too, with Bosa. There's a lot of risk. It's fully the 49ers' right to take that risk and it's fully fair to believe Lynch and Shanahan took every step of due diligence to study Bosa's character after he admitted that he scrubbed his past social media activity of some insensitive posts.
It's also fully fair to point out that Lynch and Shanahan took a previous leap of faith by drafting Reuben Foster in 2017 despite various off-the-field red flags and to add that Foster was released last November after multiple arrests.
The main point here isn't political correctness or worrying that a Bay Area fanbase might not embrace Bosa, who seems to be a very enthusiastic supporter of President Trump. Bosa was picked to play football, not decide Supreme Court cases. Locker rooms aren't a single-party monolith. Diversity is good. Blending everybody into the culture is what makes a locker room vibrant.
And liking a photo with racist hashtags when you're 16 years old, as Bosa did, doesn't quite mean that he is unworthy of an NFL paycheck. It means he has done regrettable things; it does not define who he'll be as an adult. Probably. We shall see.
But I wholly expected that Lynch, and especially Shanahan, who oversees the locker room and deals with players on a constant basis, would fully engage on this issue before deciding to draft him.
And to my surprise, Shanahan said he had not raised it with Bosa.
"No, I didn't," Shanahan said. "Not this issue. I didn't feel the need to ever. I felt very good about the person. I know it's come out more the past couple days, but still feel very good about it."
I understand generally that Shanahan and Lynch had conversations with many people who worked and played with Bosa at Ohio State and I understand that Bosa remains a very popular figure there. That means something, no doubt.
I understand that when Lynch and Shanahan spent time with Bosa, he came across the same easygoing way he did in a brief call with Bay Area reporters on Thursday and I would guess the same way he'll come across on Friday at his introductory press conference.
"I love the Bay Area," Bosa said Thursday from NFL Draft headquarters in Nashville. "And I'm excited to play there. I was a little insensitive in some of the things I said, so I've learned a lot in the past few months. I'm just ready to move forward from that, put it in the past and bring the (49ers) faithful some wins."
And what about the most recent revelation about liking the photo with racist and homophobic hashtags?
"I was a 16-year-old scrolling through my Instagram and I liked a picture of somebody I knew with a girl," Bosa said. "There was nothing racist about the picture. Obviously, there was some bad things said in the hashtags. Obviously, I didn't read those. And as a 16-year-old in high school, you kind of don't think something like that can come back and bite ya. So that's that."
Maybe Shanahan just didn't feel that asking Bosa would generate much. He'd say he was sorry (as he has to the media) and that he wouldn't do it again, which wouldn't shed much light. But at least Bosa would've had to say it to his prospective new boss and at least Shanahan would've made him say it.
So this is even a little more up in the air than I thought it would be.
"You don't want to see stuff like that," Shanahan said of the Instagram post. "But then you see when it's from — it's from when he was 16. And for people explained to me what liking something means and how do you do that. I still don't totally know; I don't have Instagram or anything.
"It's not right. But it's also not the person that we've been around and it's not the person that we believe he is and it's not the person that we've been told he is by a lot of people we do trust. I think we're pretty confident that he'll get here and show everyone else the same thing."
A few days ago, I argued that the 49ers' best and easiest choice was to select Bosa and I am not backing away from that now. He's a perfect fit for their scheme and Bosa added to Ford, DeForest Buckner and the rest of the defensive line suddenly gives the 49ers the talent to overwhelm offensive lines at times.
I do not think social media activity from three or four years ago, assuming that Bosa did not outright state racist or homophobic thoughts himself, is not an NFL disqualifier. I believe the 49ers locker room can and will accept him if he accepts the culture of the 49ers' locker room.
Also, if Bosa is a great player, much of the locker room and the fan base will be quite ready to embrace him, anyway. That's how football works — you want to play with the guys who help the team win. And if Bosa is a nice and thoughtful guy who has learned and grown from the social media tempest, then there will be zero issues.
But we don't know yet.
"That's not something that we liked," Lynch said of the Instagram post. "But I think (it was) a long time ago. And I think we choose to think more about what we've heard from people as to who the person really is. … We're going to give him a fresh start and we'd hope that everybody would."
It's certainly what his friends and associates seem to believe and it's what Lynch and Shanahan believe. But they believed, too, that Foster just needed a fresh start (and then another couple of fresh starts) and then would inevitably bloom into a dominant player and personality for the 49ers. Which did not happen.
A lot of it with Foster was confirmation bias; Shanahan and Lynch wanted to believe in Foster so much that they mostly concentrated on the positive things, which were about to be overwhelmed by the obvious negative things.
I am not saying that this is sure to happen with Bosa. It's up in the air.
— Reported from Santa Clara

Originally posted by cortana49:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by deepniner:

its a great pick if he stays healthy and doesnt spread his racist agenda.

The irony is people like you are the ones spouting ignorant opinions about someone you dont know.

Hes said nor done anything racist. This is just another over sensitive liberal witch hunt. Being openly conservative and Republican does not make you a racist.

I truly hope every 49er fan who takes issue with Bosa over this and threatens to find a new team actually does it.

Boss-A!!! Let's get some speed at WR and on the secondary and I'm ready to go!!!

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Whoa

All the feels.

The moment @nbsmallerbear became the newest member of the #49ers.

🎥: @NFL #NFLDraft pic.twitter.com/d073mGG3mi

— San Francisco 49ers (@49ers) April 26, 2019

I love those organic emotions of draft night for these kids. Real life changing moments for them.

Nick whispers "I'm so happy the Cardinals didn't take me"

That article by Kawakami is the usual garbage.

Originally posted by njninersfan420:

Originally posted by 49ersVic:
Tim K at it again:

By Tim Kawakami 33m ago 16
Kyle​ Shanahan and John Lynch are​ trusting​ their guts​ again —​ not about​ football​ talent​ this time​ but about locker-room​ chemistry,​ social​​ interactions and the maturity and judgment level of a possible franchise-changer on defense.
Or Nick Bosa could be a continuous headache and potential franchise embarrassment, it's totally up in the air.
That's a wide range of possible career outcomes for the 49ers' selection with the No. 2 overall pick on Thursday and it takes a tremendously talented player to open up that kind of spectrum. That's how good Bosa might be playing defensive end for the 49ers — book-ending with Dee Ford — and that is obviously why they are so pleased to get him.
But there is risk, too, with Bosa. There's a lot of risk. It's fully the 49ers' right to take that risk and it's fully fair to believe Lynch and Shanahan took every step of due diligence to study Bosa's character after he admitted that he scrubbed his past social media activity of some insensitive posts.
It's also fully fair to point out that Lynch and Shanahan took a previous leap of faith by drafting Reuben Foster in 2017 despite various off-the-field red flags and to add that Foster was released last November after multiple arrests.
The main point here isn't political correctness or worrying that a Bay Area fanbase might not embrace Bosa, who seems to be a very enthusiastic supporter of President Trump. Bosa was picked to play football, not decide Supreme Court cases. Locker rooms aren't a single-party monolith. Diversity is good. Blending everybody into the culture is what makes a locker room vibrant.
And liking a photo with racist hashtags when you're 16 years old, as Bosa did, doesn't quite mean that he is unworthy of an NFL paycheck. It means he has done regrettable things; it does not define who he'll be as an adult. Probably. We shall see.
But I wholly expected that Lynch, and especially Shanahan, who oversees the locker room and deals with players on a constant basis, would fully engage on this issue before deciding to draft him.
And to my surprise, Shanahan said he had not raised it with Bosa.
"No, I didn't," Shanahan said. "Not this issue. I didn't feel the need to ever. I felt very good about the person. I know it's come out more the past couple days, but still feel very good about it."
I understand generally that Shanahan and Lynch had conversations with many people who worked and played with Bosa at Ohio State and I understand that Bosa remains a very popular figure there. That means something, no doubt.
I understand that when Lynch and Shanahan spent time with Bosa, he came across the same easygoing way he did in a brief call with Bay Area reporters on Thursday and I would guess the same way he'll come across on Friday at his introductory press conference.
"I love the Bay Area," Bosa said Thursday from NFL Draft headquarters in Nashville. "And I'm excited to play there. I was a little insensitive in some of the things I said, so I've learned a lot in the past few months. I'm just ready to move forward from that, put it in the past and bring the (49ers) faithful some wins."
And what about the most recent revelation about liking the photo with racist and homophobic hashtags?
"I was a 16-year-old scrolling through my Instagram and I liked a picture of somebody I knew with a girl," Bosa said. "There was nothing racist about the picture. Obviously, there was some bad things said in the hashtags. Obviously, I didn't read those. And as a 16-year-old in high school, you kind of don't think something like that can come back and bite ya. So that's that."
Maybe Shanahan just didn't feel that asking Bosa would generate much. He'd say he was sorry (as he has to the media) and that he wouldn't do it again, which wouldn't shed much light. But at least Bosa would've had to say it to his prospective new boss and at least Shanahan would've made him say it.
So this is even a little more up in the air than I thought it would be.
"You don't want to see stuff like that," Shanahan said of the Instagram post. "But then you see when it's from — it's from when he was 16. And for people explained to me what liking something means and how do you do that. I still don't totally know; I don't have Instagram or anything.
"It's not right. But it's also not the person that we've been around and it's not the person that we believe he is and it's not the person that we've been told he is by a lot of people we do trust. I think we're pretty confident that he'll get here and show everyone else the same thing."
A few days ago, I argued that the 49ers' best and easiest choice was to select Bosa and I am not backing away from that now. He's a perfect fit for their scheme and Bosa added to Ford, DeForest Buckner and the rest of the defensive line suddenly gives the 49ers the talent to overwhelm offensive lines at times.
I do not think social media activity from three or four years ago, assuming that Bosa did not outright state racist or homophobic thoughts himself, is not an NFL disqualifier. I believe the 49ers locker room can and will accept him if he accepts the culture of the 49ers' locker room.
Also, if Bosa is a great player, much of the locker room and the fan base will be quite ready to embrace him, anyway. That's how football works — you want to play with the guys who help the team win. And if Bosa is a nice and thoughtful guy who has learned and grown from the social media tempest, then there will be zero issues.
But we don't know yet.
"That's not something that we liked," Lynch said of the Instagram post. "But I think (it was) a long time ago. And I think we choose to think more about what we've heard from people as to who the person really is. … We're going to give him a fresh start and we'd hope that everybody would."
It's certainly what his friends and associates seem to believe and it's what Lynch and Shanahan believe. But they believed, too, that Foster just needed a fresh start (and then another couple of fresh starts) and then would inevitably bloom into a dominant player and personality for the 49ers. Which did not happen.
A lot of it with Foster was confirmation bias; Shanahan and Lynch wanted to believe in Foster so much that they mostly concentrated on the positive things, which were about to be overwhelmed by the obvious negative things.
I am not saying that this is sure to happen with Bosa. It's up in the air.
— Reported from Santa Clara

Cannot compare Bosa and Fosters situations they are totally different (IMO), just shut the "H" up Tim K and enjoy the pick. BOSA! BOSA!

Originally posted by KegBert:

I'm guessing y'all didn't actually read the piece, it's honestly not really negative.

3rd to last paragraph from the article:

"I do not think social media activity from three or four years ago, assuming that Bosa did not outright state racist or homophobic thoughts himself, is not an NFL disqualifier. I believe the 49ers locker room can and will accept him if he accepts the culture of the 49ers' locker room.
Also, if Bosa is a great player, much of the locker room and the fan base will be quite ready to embrace him, anyway. That's how football works — you want to play with the guys who help the team win. And if Bosa is a nice and thoughtful guy who has learned and grown from the social media tempest, then there will be zero issues."

It's negative because it didn't need to be written in the first place. It's a passive aggressive hit piece.

Bay Area thought control on steroids.

Kyle was right - locker room diversity includes diversity of thought.

Originally posted by 49ersVic:
Tim K at it again:

By Tim Kawakami 33m ago 16
Kyle​ Shanahan and John Lynch are​ trusting​ their guts​ again —​ not about​ football​ talent​ this time​ but about locker-room​ chemistry,​ social​​ interactions and the maturity and judgment level of a possible franchise-changer on defense.
Or Nick Bosa could be a continuous headache and potential franchise embarrassment, it's totally up in the air.
That's a wide range of possible career outcomes for the 49ers' selection with the No. 2 overall pick on Thursday and it takes a tremendously talented player to open up that kind of spectrum. That's how good Bosa might be playing defensive end for the 49ers — book-ending with Dee Ford — and that is obviously why they are so pleased to get him.
But there is risk, too, with Bosa. There's a lot of risk. It's fully the 49ers' right to take that risk and it's fully fair to believe Lynch and Shanahan took every step of due diligence to study Bosa's character after he admitted that he scrubbed his past social media activity of some insensitive posts.
It's also fully fair to point out that Lynch and Shanahan took a previous leap of faith by drafting Reuben Foster in 2017 despite various off-the-field red flags and to add that Foster was released last November after multiple arrests.
The main point here isn't political correctness or worrying that a Bay Area fanbase might not embrace Bosa, who seems to be a very enthusiastic supporter of President Trump. Bosa was picked to play football, not decide Supreme Court cases. Locker rooms aren't a single-party monolith. Diversity is good. Blending everybody into the culture is what makes a locker room vibrant.
And liking a photo with racist hashtags when you're 16 years old, as Bosa did, doesn't quite mean that he is unworthy of an NFL paycheck. It means he has done regrettable things; it does not define who he'll be as an adult. Probably. We shall see.
But I wholly expected that Lynch, and especially Shanahan, who oversees the locker room and deals with players on a constant basis, would fully engage on this issue before deciding to draft him.
And to my surprise, Shanahan said he had not raised it with Bosa.
"No, I didn't," Shanahan said. "Not this issue. I didn't feel the need to ever. I felt very good about the person. I know it's come out more the past couple days, but still feel very good about it."
I understand generally that Shanahan and Lynch had conversations with many people who worked and played with Bosa at Ohio State and I understand that Bosa remains a very popular figure there. That means something, no doubt.
I understand that when Lynch and Shanahan spent time with Bosa, he came across the same easygoing way he did in a brief call with Bay Area reporters on Thursday and I would guess the same way he'll come across on Friday at his introductory press conference.
"I love the Bay Area," Bosa said Thursday from NFL Draft headquarters in Nashville. "And I'm excited to play there. I was a little insensitive in some of the things I said, so I've learned a lot in the past few months. I'm just ready to move forward from that, put it in the past and bring the (49ers) faithful some wins."
And what about the most recent revelation about liking the photo with racist and homophobic hashtags?
"I was a 16-year-old scrolling through my Instagram and I liked a picture of somebody I knew with a girl," Bosa said. "There was nothing racist about the picture. Obviously, there was some bad things said in the hashtags. Obviously, I didn't read those. And as a 16-year-old in high school, you kind of don't think something like that can come back and bite ya. So that's that."
Maybe Shanahan just didn't feel that asking Bosa would generate much. He'd say he was sorry (as he has to the media) and that he wouldn't do it again, which wouldn't shed much light. But at least Bosa would've had to say it to his prospective new boss and at least Shanahan would've made him say it.
So this is even a little more up in the air than I thought it would be.
"You don't want to see stuff like that," Shanahan said of the Instagram post. "But then you see when it's from — it's from when he was 16. And for people explained to me what liking something means and how do you do that. I still don't totally know; I don't have Instagram or anything.
"It's not right. But it's also not the person that we've been around and it's not the person that we believe he is and it's not the person that we've been told he is by a lot of people we do trust. I think we're pretty confident that he'll get here and show everyone else the same thing."
A few days ago, I argued that the 49ers' best and easiest choice was to select Bosa and I am not backing away from that now. He's a perfect fit for their scheme and Bosa added to Ford, DeForest Buckner and the rest of the defensive line suddenly gives the 49ers the talent to overwhelm offensive lines at times.
I do not think social media activity from three or four years ago, assuming that Bosa did not outright state racist or homophobic thoughts himself, is not an NFL disqualifier. I believe the 49ers locker room can and will accept him if he accepts the culture of the 49ers' locker room.
Also, if Bosa is a great player, much of the locker room and the fan base will be quite ready to embrace him, anyway. That's how football works — you want to play with the guys who help the team win. And if Bosa is a nice and thoughtful guy who has learned and grown from the social media tempest, then there will be zero issues.
But we don't know yet.
"That's not something that we liked," Lynch said of the Instagram post. "But I think (it was) a long time ago. And I think we choose to think more about what we've heard from people as to who the person really is. … We're going to give him a fresh start and we'd hope that everybody would."
It's certainly what his friends and associates seem to believe and it's what Lynch and Shanahan believe. But they believed, too, that Foster just needed a fresh start (and then another couple of fresh starts) and then would inevitably bloom into a dominant player and personality for the 49ers. Which did not happen.
A lot of it with Foster was confirmation bias; Shanahan and Lynch wanted to believe in Foster so much that they mostly concentrated on the positive things, which were about to be overwhelmed by the obvious negative things.
I am not saying that this is sure to happen with Bosa. It's up in the air.
— Reported from Santa Clara

I don't hate Tim K or anything but I can't see how you could compare Bosa's "red flags" to Foster's actual red flags.

Most of the people in the locker room and on the team really aren't going to care or give it a second thought. As long as you aren't shoving you're views and beliefs down people's throat he's not going to run into any problems.

What earns the respect of your teammates is putting the time in and working hard, performance on the field, and just being a decent human being to them.

Still excited about this pick.

Looking forward to WR S TE OL CB today.

Joey Bosa was thought to be a raver and a weeds smoker before the draft.
"Don´t draft this guy, he prefers to drink all night with his buddy Zeke Ellioth than working his ass on the field.". That´s what they said before the draft.
Well, Joey is now loved by his Chargers Fans and one of the best pass rushers in the league.
He really seems to be a cool dude.
So all the social justice warriors, give us a break, we as niners fans will take our chances on the only other tier one prospect with Quinnen. A guy that everybody loves at Ohio State by the way.

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by KegBert:
I'm guessing y'all didn't actually read the piece, it's honestly not really negative.

3rd to last paragraph from the article:

"I do not think social media activity from three or four years ago, assuming that Bosa did not outright state racist or homophobic thoughts himself, is not an NFL disqualifier. I believe the 49ers locker room can and will accept him if he accepts the culture of the 49ers' locker room.
Also, if Bosa is a great player, much of the locker room and the fan base will be quite ready to embrace him, anyway. That's how football works — you want to play with the guys who help the team win. And if Bosa is a nice and thoughtful guy who has learned and grown from the social media tempest, then there will be zero issues."

It's negative because it didn't need to be written in the first place. It's a passive aggressive hit piece.

Bay Area thought control on steroids.

Kyle was right - locker room diversity includes diversity of thought.

exactly, Tim had that article on standby and was waiting to hit send as soon as he was the pick. It was passive aggressive as s**t and like you said there was really no point to even write it....outside of trying to get clicks

Nick was a young kid liking his friends posts. Show of hands when you see someone throw out 3+ hashtags how many of them do you read?

I'm 37 years old. I don't read any of them. I look at the post and that's it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I think it's pretty common to gloss over the hashtags.

His other tweets shouldn't bother anyone. He's not going to divide the locker room cuz he doesn't like Beyoncé for crying loud.

He's a great teammate by all accounts. Loved by his teammates and coaches alike. If he was a racist you could easily tell and it would have nothing to do with his tweets.

I'm thrilled he's on this team and I hope we keep this draft going strong and take back our damn division!

Best way to combat ideas is to put forward better ideas. If he's Republican and a Trump supporter so the f what. If he's racist than the bay area and the NFL will bleed that out of him quick! IM SO EXCITED! Bosa is a niner!

I don't even like Trump, but the fact that our first round pick is a stud pass rusher and pisses of the worst, most entitled, closed-minded, whiny part of our fanbase is a massive, massive win.

Great day. Great pick.

M49GA

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by KegBert:

I'm guessing y'all didn't actually read the piece, it's honestly not really negative.

3rd to last paragraph from the article:

"I do not think social media activity from three or four years ago, assuming that Bosa did not outright state racist or homophobic thoughts himself, is not an NFL disqualifier. I believe the 49ers locker room can and will accept him if he accepts the culture of the 49ers' locker room.
Also, if Bosa is a great player, much of the locker room and the fan base will be quite ready to embrace him, anyway. That's how football works — you want to play with the guys who help the team win. And if Bosa is a nice and thoughtful guy who has learned and grown from the social media tempest, then there will be zero issues."

It's negative because it didn't need to be written in the first place. It's a passive aggressive hit piece.

Bay Area thought control on steroids.

Kyle was right - locker room diversity includes diversity of thought.

exactly, Tim had that article on standby and was waiting to hit send as soon as he was the pick. It was passive aggressive as s**t and like you said there was really no point to even write it....outside of trying to get clicks

I mean, they gotta write about something?