DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Ahmad brooks 2.0 and Aldon smith 2.0. Hope hope!

Brooks and Ford have lining up offsides in common.

Dang, I forgot that about Brooks and Ford.

Originally posted by thl408:
I wonder how well Bosa will adjust to aligning at a 9 technique. I'm not gonna pretend like I've watch a lot of Bosa film, but from what I've read and little of what I've watched, he seems to excel when he can quickly get his hands on the offensive tackle. Being in a 9t does not allow the pass rusher to do this. He has to first close the distance from his wide alignment.

Bosa excels when he fires off the ball and gets his strong hands on the OT, then low pad level, strength, and slipperiness to get past the OT. He's not blowing by an OT with speed, he needs to make contact with the OT. It's not that I don't think he can win from a 9t, it's that I think he may be a better off playing from a 5t where he is naturally closer to the OT and able to quickly initiate contact. Something I'll be watching for, his reps at 5t versus 9t.

I agree, the Wide 9 shouldn't be used unless it's a passing down. Although, your point that aligning wide is not going to enhance Bosa's skillset, but it does go with the rest of the DLine's skillset and talent. In other words, Bosa from the wide 9 alignment might take a small hit because of the distance, but the rest of the DLine will benefit. So I think, overall Bosa playing wide and the defense in also a wide 9 - is a net benefit to the DLine, although it puts Bosa in a bit of a disadvantage. I think he has the speed to close the distance and still get it done.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
3 sacks for Bosa on Sunday. Book it

Would cause so many tears of joy

Meh, the Bucs tackles aren't very good. There is no excuse for either Ford or Bosa to not get at least a pressure every passing down as long as they get a 1-on-1 matchup with either tackle. That said, 3 sacks would be very impressive.

Yeeeeeah. I don't think these guys getting pressure every single down is realistic. The Bears were crazy good last year and they had a sack/int/fumble forced on 1 out of 8 passing attempts last year, and that was crazy high.

Football insiders did a very comprehensive study on pressures where they went through a complex algorithm of adjusting pressures vs coverage sacks and times the QB fell down or caused a sack or pressure himself. These were qualitative pressures and they did this after the 2017 season.

In 2017 the team with the highest pressure rate was Jacksonville at 38.4%. That's actually the highest rate between 2006-2017. So, even if they got a pressure on 2 out of 5 passing downs they still would be ranking the best of the last 13 years.

If Kyle gets a bit lucky and gets a good lead on the Bucs, I think every down pressure is conceivable (or at least they will have a lot of opportunities) for pass rushing if Kyle's offense is ripping up the Buc defense.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by thl408:
Hero, what do you think about Bosa at 9t? Does that help or hinder him? I made a post about this on the previous page. Wanted your thoughts.

I think much has been claimed about Bosa's first step. I think he'll be just fine.

IMO from what I watched his first step was much faster when he was in obvious pass rush situations and for his size he's a pretty good athlete.

That 10 yard split was top notch. Certainly wish he didn't have an ankle issue but personally I think he's not going to be hindered at all playing further out from the tackles.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

3 sacks for Bosa on Sunday. Book it

Would cause so many tears of joy

Meh, the Bucs tackles aren't very good. There is no excuse for either Ford or Bosa to not get at least a pressure every passing down as long as they get a 1-on-1 matchup with either tackle. That said, 3 sacks would be very impressive.

Yeeeeeah. I don't think these guys getting pressure every single down is realistic. The Bears were crazy good last year and they had a sack/int/fumble forced on 1 out of 8 passing attempts last year, and that was crazy high.

Football insiders did a very comprehensive study on pressures where they went through a complex algorithm of adjusting pressures vs coverage sacks and times the QB fell down or caused a sack or pressure himself. These were qualitative pressures and they did this after the 2017 season.

In 2017 the team with the highest pressure rate was Jacksonville at 38.4%. That's actually the highest rate between 2006-2017. So, even if they got a pressure on 2 out of 5 passing downs they still would be ranking the best of the last 13 years.

If Kyle gets a bit lucky and gets a good lead on the Bucs, I think every down pressure is conceivable (or at least they will have a lot of opportunities) for pass rushing if Kyle's offense is ripping up the Buc defense.

Getting pressure every passing down is definitely a realistic expectation. Yes, it's true that the league high for pressure rate on drop backs was about 37% last year, but that's over the whole season. When you consider that the Bucs o-line has been poor in pass protection and Arians loves 5 and 7 step drops, it's not hard to imagine us blowing that rate out of the water.

Why is Bosa listed as Questionable? I thought he was good to go.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Why is Bosa listed as Questionable? I thought he was good to go.

Lots of players are always listed questionable but 90% they play. It's the doubtful status that you should worry about

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Why is Bosa listed as Questionable? I thought he was good to go.

Lots of players are always listed questionable but 90% they play. It's the doubtful status that you should worry about

I thought he was a Probable - how did it get to Questionable?

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Why is Bosa listed as Questionable? I thought he was good to go.

Lots of players are always listed questionable but 90% they play. It's the doubtful status that you should worry about

Brady is listed as questionable every week for the Pats lol.

Originally posted by mayo49:

I thought he was a Probable - how did it get to Questionable?

There is no probable designation anymore. Questionable, doubtful or out.

You are questionable unless it's a certainty you will be playing.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I thought he was a Probable - how did it get to Questionable?

There is no probable designation anymore. Questionable, doubtful or out.

You are questionable unless it's a certainty you will be playing.

That explains it then, thanks.

"Nick Bosa began studying #Buccaneers OTs shortly after he got injured. "If you don't study who you're going against, then it could be that one play where if you did study and you knew the way to beat him and you don't use it, that could be the difference.""

https://mobile.twitter.com/MaioccoNBCS/status/1169987529258389505

Aldon had 14 sacks as a rookie right? Nick should get half that tomorrow.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Why is Bosa listed as Questionable? I thought he was good to go.

Lots of players are always listed questionable but 90% they play. It's the doubtful status that you should worry about

The entire team is questionable after the last 2 years.

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:
Getting pressure every passing down is definitely a realistic expectation. Yes, it's true that the league high for pressure rate on drop backs was about 37% last year, but that's over the whole season. When you consider that the Bucs o-line has been poor in pass protection and Arians loves 5 and 7 step drops, it's not hard to imagine us blowing that rate out of the water.

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Aldon had 14 sacks as a rookie right? Nick should get half that tomorrow.

I hope he has a strong start for his campaign for Defensive rookie of the year!

Aldon Smith 2.0, or Charles Haley/Fred Dean 2.0 -- I'll take any of the three (minus the drunkenness')