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Sep 9, 2019 at 11:11 AM

9erReign
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Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
People really celebrating almost sacks?

They're called pressures, and they matter. Making the QB uncomfortable on every play is the key to success on D.

Turnovers, sacks, stops are actually what matter and determine success on D. Does anyone know the result of the 2 bullrush's where he got close to Winston? What happened on those plays?

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:11 AM

#6272

thl408
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Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
People really celebrating almost sacks?

They're called pressures, and they matter. Making the QB uncomfortable on every play is the key to success on D.

but pressures don't show up in the ESPN boxscore or count for fantasy points so who cares

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:12 AM

#6273

riverrunzthruit
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Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
People really celebrating almost sacks?

They're called pressures, and they matter. Making the QB uncomfortable on every play is the key to success on D.

But pressures don't show up in the ESPN boxscore or count for fantasy points so who cares.

Spoon cares, he got a pick 6 because of Bosa pressure on Crabby which never showed up in the box score stats

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:18 AM

#6274

Dshearn
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Aldon helped make Fangio look good. Bosa is going to do the same thing with Salah.

Do you have a list of great D Coordinators that didn't have elite pass rushers?

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:19 AM

#6275

thl408
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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
People really celebrating almost sacks?

They're called pressures, and they matter. Making the QB uncomfortable on every play is the key to success on D.

But pressures don't show up in the ESPN boxscore or count for fantasy points so who cares.

Spoon cares, he got a pick 6 because of Bosa pressure on Crabby which never showed up in the box score stats

if it's not in the ESPN boxscore then it doesn't exist.

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:22 AM

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CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by 9erReign:
Turnovers, sacks, stops are actually what matter and determine success on D. Does anyone know the result of the 2 bullrush's where he got close to Winston? What happened on those plays?

The last hurry when Ford and Bosa were in his face resulted in a pick 6 for Spoon. Hurries do matter.

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:24 AM

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Giedi
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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
^^^ that's what I am saying, the D is better because we have better players now not because Mr. Clean is a great coach

Well I agree to a certain extent. Being a good defensive coach is much more about acquiring talent and developing talent - than X's and O's. That's why i think it's very rare for coaches to go from being a defensive coach to a great offensive one. Both Belicheat, Walsh, Shula, Noll, and Landry were able to do that- and they were hall of fame talent level coaches, because offense is all about X's and O's and scheme.

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:25 AM

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riverrunzthruit
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It was so awesome and fun to see, the pass rush has come back to the 9ers... they harassed Crabby most of the day, if they give the same in Cincy next week to the less mobile Dalton we double the sacks

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:25 AM

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5thSFG
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Originally posted by 9erReign:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by 9erReign:
People really celebrating almost sacks?

They're called pressures, and they matter. Making the QB uncomfortable on every play is the key to success on D.

Turnovers, sacks, stops are actually what matter and determine success on D. Does anyone know the result of the 2 bullrush's where he got close to Winston? What happened on those plays?

Your sentences argue against each other

[ Edited by 5thSFG on Sep 9, 2019 at 11:26 AM ]

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:26 AM

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MoeJontana84
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Same as when he was drafted.

I came.

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:26 AM

#6281

9erReign
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Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
People really celebrating almost sacks?

They're called pressures, and they matter. Making the QB uncomfortable on every play is the key to success on D.

Turnovers, sacks, stops are actually what matter and determine success on D. Does anyone know the result of the 2 bullrush's where he got close to Winston? What happened on those plays?

Your last few sentences argue against each other

Pretty sure they were positive plays for the offense.

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:27 AM

#6282

Hopper
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
Turnovers, sacks, stops are actually what matter and determine success on D. Does anyone know the result of the 2 bullrush's where he got close to Winston? What happened on those plays?

The last hurry when Ford and Bosa were in his face resulted in a pick 6 for Spoon. Hurries do matter.

Agreed.

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:28 AM

#6283

Giedi
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Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Aldon helped make Fangio look good. Bosa is going to do the same thing with Salah.

Do you have a list of great D Coordinators that didn't have elite pass rushers?

Seifert comes to mind in the '94 super bowl. He had Deion and a couple of has-been pass rushers. But early in his career, he had Fred Dean and Charles Haley in their prime.

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:28 AM

#6284

5thSFG
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Originally posted by 9erReign:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by 9erReign:
People really celebrating almost sacks?

They're called pressures, and they matter. Making the QB uncomfortable on every play is the key to success on D.

Turnovers, sacks, stops are actually what matter and determine success on D. Does anyone know the result of the 2 bullrush's where he got close to Winston? What happened on those plays?

Your last few sentences argue against each other

Pretty sure they were positive plays for the offense.

One resulted in a pick 6..... so claiming hurries don't matter but turnovers do is illogical

[ Edited by 5thSFG on Sep 9, 2019 at 11:29 AM ]

Sep 9, 2019 at 11:29 AM

#6285

Giedi
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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It was so awesome and fun to see, the pass rush has come back to the 9ers... they harassed Crabby most of the day, if they give the same in Cincy next week to the less mobile Dalton we double the sacks

Bosa! DROY