DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by davide49:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Bosa got better as the game went on. Seemed like the rust fell off and he was playing more freely towards the end. Plus knowing the opponent is passing makes his job easier.

I really noticed the play were he pulled Winston down by his LEG from the ground. This dude is incredibly strong.

I think we've got a quicker version of Justin Smith.

Cowboy was much bigger, Nick is a different kind of player.

Agree. And I think the Buckner, Bosa duo is going to set some records in the near future. Starting with a Defensive Rookie of the Year honors!

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I think he has to say that because drafting dead last or close to dead last precludes him from drafting the Bosa's, Chubbs, and Garrets of the NFL. Elite players that generate sacks as well as pressures.

Having said that, any sort of disruption of the QBs timing with the reciever, via pressure, sack, bump and run, or disguised coverage is a good thing for the defense.

And he's definitely right that pass defense is comprised of a good pass rush and a good coverage against the recievers. But what sets Bellicheat apart from other coaches is how smart his players are. And how he disguises his coverages, and how he shuts down your teams best money plays. From an offensive standpoint I think he and Kyle are on par, but from a defensive standpoint - Belicheat is heads and shoulders above most, if not all, of the NFL.

lol if there's one thing we know about Bill Belichick is that if he doesn't want to say something...he doesn't have to.

Unlike Harbaugh who basically glares at the media.

The nice thing about Kyle is that he can tell you something and still not tell you anything. Specially to those reporters who's football IQ is near zero (read Grant Cohn in there )

I think what Bellicheat is underrated at too, is his cap management. The fact that he's a damn find coach, kind of overshadows that.

Levin Black (49ers Sports Bum)
@DaSportsBum

According to PFF, Nick Bosa had a 28% win rate in week 1. The highest rate of all qualified defenders. Yes, all of them.

And he did it while not being 100%.
8:59 AM · Sep 10, 2019·Twitter for Android

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

IDK how bosa wasn't given credit for the AA sack. AA flew right over Winston's back while Bosa had his legs secured to take him down.

Bosa, robbed.

Should've been a split at worst IMO. Very odd. Only thing I can think of is they called "in the grasp" but clearly he was NOT.

Theyre both 49ers. Be happy for both of them and let's keep truckin along...

This dude might f**k around and become my favorite player on the team.

Originally posted by goodthings19:

Levin Black (49ers Sports Bum)
@DaSportsBum

According to PFF, Nick Bosa had a 28% win rate in week 1. The highest rate of all qualified defenders. Yes, all of them.

And he did it while not being 100%.
8:59 AM · Sep 10, 2019·Twitter for Android

This was his 1st actual real game activity in a very long time to. My guess is he gets into real game shape with a week or 2 after the bye

Originally posted by goodthings19:

Levin Black (49ers Sports Bum)
@DaSportsBum

According to PFF, Nick Bosa had a 28% win rate in week 1. The highest rate of all qualified defenders. Yes, all of them.

And he did it while not being 100%.
8:59 AM · Sep 10, 2019·Twitter for Android

I hope his ankle feels better so he won't get pushed around early by their tackles.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

I hope his ankle feels better so he won't get pushed around early by their tackles.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

I hope his ankle feels better so he won't get pushed around early by their tackles.

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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
if you guys are like that lol then I wouldn't reward bosa with his first sack since Dee ford basically made winston run into him. That was like a Solly thomas or AA sack then.

Lol what? He sacked Winston on the play where he was credited with a sack and he made contact with Winston to bring him down on the play Armstead was given the sack. It's not rocket science, it's a definition.

@ 10:06

Armstead clearly gets him first, bosa just jumps on his feet. Its not rocket science its clear evidence why they credited armstead. You can even tell that Bosa knew it was armstead that caused that sack when he went to congrats him while armstead doing his belly rub.

Armstead does get to him first because Bosa is barreling down on him and he can't step up. Armstead grabs him but essentially ends up rolling over Winston. Check how the play ends, Bosa is basically on the ground pulling on Winston's leg. Armstead is on top of Bosa and not even touching Winston.

Certainly think .5 a sack is the way to go there. I've seen QBs get out of similar sacks when the taller defender doesn't have a firm grasp and they basically squirm out of their grasp.

...unless of course as I said before the refs called it in the grasp.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
IDK how bosa wasn't given credit for the AA sack. AA flew right over Winston's back while Bosa had his legs secured to take him down.

Bosa, robbed.

Should've been a split at worst IMO. Very odd. Only thing I can think of is they called "in the grasp" but clearly he was NOT.

Theyre both 49ers. Be happy for both of them and let's keep truckin along...

Then what's the point of keeping stats? If you're not going to credit the right person, then why bother keeping track? Can we give all of Cassius Marsh's sacks from last year to Buckner? They were both 49ers, after all.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER
if you guys are like that lol then I wouldn't reward bosa with his first sack since Dee ford basically made winston run into him. That was like a Solly thomas or AA sack then.

How do you figure that's even remotely close to being the same? Bosa literally helped bring Winston down on a play he isn't being credited for. You just tried to argue that some guys that didn't even touch the QB should be credited with a sack because they made him run away from them. Do you not see how those things are not even close to being the same? If a defender tackles or helps tackle the QB behind the line of scrimmage on a passing play, they should be credited with a sack or a partial sack, period.

People are arguing over a pointless sack stat.

Originally posted by Empire49:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
IDK how bosa wasn't given credit for the AA sack. AA flew right over Winston's back while Bosa had his legs secured to take him down.

Bosa, robbed.

Should've been a split at worst IMO. Very odd. Only thing I can think of is they called "in the grasp" but clearly he was NOT.

Theyre both 49ers. Be happy for both of them and let's keep truckin along...

Then what's the point of keeping stats? If you're not going to credit the right person, then why bother keeping track? Can we give all of Cassius Marsh's sacks from last year to Buckner? They were both 49ers, after all.

I think the guy that has a clear hold of a player and clearly about to bring him down should be credited for the sack.

You perhaps think otherwise.

Why drag it out so much if one of your main "lessons" you've taught other posters all offseason is to just celebrate and be happy for all 49ers,...not certain 49ers? i.e.,...my post was kinda tongue in cheek and not meant for you, yet I will still tell you that when you put on the video of the play, it's clearly a wasted argument.

If a guy is good enough he will get his sack #s up. There's no cause for concern.