DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by dmax:

I'd sit bosa for as long as possible

Should probably just sit him out the rest of the season. That way he cant get hurt.

We should cut our losses and do an injury settlement, if applicable

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by mayo49:

I hope this ankle issue doesn't linger all season long.

I think that's the point of keeping him out of practice, he needs to be game day ready..

He will need to miss more than just practice. Any healing he gets during the week will be undone on Sundays.

The question isn't "can he play on a reaggrevated high ankle?" Of course he can. And he probably will.

The question is "is the risk of reinjury and missing up to 8 weeks less than the reward?"

I've seen a couple people say "yeah well players can get hurt every play". No crap. But Bosa is disproportionately predisposed to a significant set back due to his current injury. Stop using throw away phrases and logic and applying it to very specific circumstances.

Originally posted by okdkid:
The question isn't "can he play on a reaggrevated high ankle?" Of course he can. And he probably will.

The question is "is the risk of reinjury and missing up to 8 weeks less than the reward?"

I've seen a couple people say "yeah well players can get hurt every play". No crap. But Bosa is disproportionately predisposed to a significant set back due to his current injury. Stop using throw away phrases and logic and applying it to very specific circumstances.

If he misses 8 weeks, good chance any playoff hopes evaporate. Also I fear a permanent injury. Our talented super bowl nose tackle, Michael Carter, had his career ended at 32 because of a high ankle sprain he just kept re-injuring and re-injuring.

Originally posted by okdkid:
The question isn't "can he play on a reaggrevated high ankle?" Of course he can. And he probably will.

The question is "is the risk of reinjury and missing up to 8 weeks less than the reward?"

I've seen a couple people say "yeah well players can get hurt every play". No crap. But Bosa is disproportionately predisposed to a significant set back due to his current injury. Stop using throw away phrases and logic and applying it to very specific circumstances.

The coaching and medical staff know better than any of us what is going on. All we can do is cross our fingers and hope for the best.

dude doesn't need practice to be ready! he has been rushing the passer since he was crapping his diaper...

he hadn't played an actual game in almost a year, and had only a handful of actual padded practices over that time, and look how well he played.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by okdkid:
The question isn't "can he play on a reaggrevated high ankle?" Of course he can. And he probably will.

The question is "is the risk of reinjury and missing up to 8 weeks less than the reward?"

I've seen a couple people say "yeah well players can get hurt every play". No crap. But Bosa is disproportionately predisposed to a significant set back due to his current injury. Stop using throw away phrases and logic and applying it to very specific circumstances.

The coaching and medical staff know better than any of us what is going on. All we can do is cross our fingers and hope for the best.

ONe thing I like about this new medical staff, they seem to be much more conservative than the previous one.

i just think a high sprain lingers for a while. the good players like frank gire play through it and are fine. the crappy ones like jason webster do not. the only real cure i think is rest and we can not afford for him to miss multiple games in my opinion unless it just gets to a point where he hurts us. so fine. limit him in practice, watch him carefully in the games and let the chips fall. we can not be so arrogant to look at our schedule and say .. oh here is a easy win. set him then

Originally posted by Giedi:
ONe thing I like about this new medical staff, they seem to be much more conservative than the previous one.

i would remove the word conservative and put in competent

Originally posted by cciowa:
i just think a high sprain lingers for a while. the good players like frank gire play through it and are fine. the crappy ones like jason webster do not. the only real cure i think is rest and we can not afford for him to miss multiple games in my opinion unless it just gets to a point where he hurts us. so fine. limit him in practice, watch him carefully in the games and let the chips fall. we can not be so arrogant to look at our schedule and say .. oh here is a easy win. set him then

A running back and an pass rusher are two different positions using two different areas of the body. In a RB, he's leaning forward and I think his knees are more important than the Ankles. In a pass rusher, all that stress of bending the arc and fighting off the OT and levering a 300+ pound OT out of the way - to get to the QB - puts a lot of stress on that Ankle. Unless you can put some sort of brace on the ankle to limit movement (and I don't think there is such a device) - OKids' point about tearing tendons and ligaments in a pass rush really does concern me.

Originally posted by Giedi:
A running back and an pass rusher are two different positions using two different areas of the body. In a RB, he's leaning forward and I think his knees are more important than the Ankles. In a pass rusher, all that stress of bending the arc and fighting off the OT and levering a 300+ pound OT out of the way - to get to the QB - puts a lot of stress on that Ankle. Unless you can put some sort of brace on the ankle to limit movement (and I don't think there is such a device) - OKids' point about tearing tendons and ligaments in a pass rush really does concern me.

good points. i was just trying to be optimistic... i understand if you were confused by me being optimistic

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by cciowa:
i just think a high sprain lingers for a while. the good players like frank gire play through it and are fine. the crappy ones like jason webster do not. the only real cure i think is rest and we can not afford for him to miss multiple games in my opinion unless it just gets to a point where he hurts us. so fine. limit him in practice, watch him carefully in the games and let the chips fall. we can not be so arrogant to look at our schedule and say .. oh here is a easy win. set him then

A running back and an pass rusher are two different positions using two different areas of the body. In a RB, he's leaning forward and I think his knees are more important than the Ankles. In a pass rusher, all that stress of bending the arc and fighting off the OT and levering a 300+ pound OT out of the way - to get to the QB - puts a lot of stress on that Ankle. Unless you can put some sort of brace on the ankle to limit movement (and I don't think there is such a device) - OKids' point about tearing tendons and ligaments in a pass rush really does concern me.

The best they can do to limit movement is tape it up.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by cciowa:
i just think a high sprain lingers for a while. the good players like frank gire play through it and are fine. the crappy ones like jason webster do not. the only real cure i think is rest and we can not afford for him to miss multiple games in my opinion unless it just gets to a point where he hurts us. so fine. limit him in practice, watch him carefully in the games and let the chips fall. we can not be so arrogant to look at our schedule and say .. oh here is a easy win. set him then

A running back and an pass rusher are two different positions using two different areas of the body. In a RB, he's leaning forward and I think his knees are more important than the Ankles. In a pass rusher, all that stress of bending the arc and fighting off the OT and levering a 300+ pound OT out of the way - to get to the QB - puts a lot of stress on that Ankle. Unless you can put some sort of brace on the ankle to limit movement (and I don't think there is such a device) - OKids' point about tearing tendons and ligaments in a pass rush really does concern me.

The best they can do to limit movement is tape it up.

stick it in a bucket of ice water or is that old timey advice?

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Giedi:
A running back and an pass rusher are two different positions using two different areas of the body. In a RB, he's leaning forward and I think his knees are more important than the Ankles. In a pass rusher, all that stress of bending the arc and fighting off the OT and levering a 300+ pound OT out of the way - to get to the QB - puts a lot of stress on that Ankle. Unless you can put some sort of brace on the ankle to limit movement (and I don't think there is such a device) - OKids' point about tearing tendons and ligaments in a pass rush really does concern me.

good points. i was just trying to be optimistic... i understand if you were confused by me being optimistic

Ooooo you got me! Now imagine that! Me being a negative Nellie compared to Optimistic CC!

Originally posted by Giedi:
Ooooo you got me! Now imagine that! Me being a negative Nellie compared to Optimistic CC!

when that day happens we will check the weather channel to see that hell has indeed frozen over