DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Jakemall:
I gave you stats too.

This is one little snap shot. TJ is double teamed .15 to Bosa's .25. TJ wins more than Bosa. Look at the scale of that chart. Position on the chart does not mean value. It may be more important to be successful than to deal with double teams. Or at least on the scale of double teams they are showing. There's a whole discussion to be had on the value of this "stat". There's a lot of missing info there even with that focus..and it neglects a lot of other things. Like tackling. You can lose on a pass rush and still get the tackle or assist.

and that stat doesn't justify 21 to 15.

i f**king joked about how people were gonna try and find reason to not want to pay Nick Bosa and man we are starting early.

I want to pay the man. I don't want to make him the richest DL in the NFL. Not the same effin thing and you know it.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I'm sure the Bosas agent agrees with you cause that's what matters.

Well none of it matters if you wanna go there. We're talking about money that we don't get to pay, receive or spend.

Originally posted by Jakemall:
I want to pay the man. I don't want to make him the richest DL in the NFL. Not the same effin thing and you know it.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
This his 1st year back from acl reconstruction. Dont be a fool. He still takes everyone off their blocking scheme. Hes the man. Hell be way better next season.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Jakemall:
I want to pay the man. I don't want to make him the richest DL in the NFL. Not the same effin thing and you know it.

There's absolutely no chance he won't be that, his deal is 2 years away, Garrett will reset the market and then Bosa will get more than that, it's just the way this goes.

The alternative is don't draft great players!

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Jakemall:
I want to pay the man. I don't want to make him the richest DL in the NFL. Not the same effin thing and you know it.

There's absolutely no chance he won't be that, his deal is 2 years away, Garrett will reset the market and then Bosa will get more than that, it's just the way this goes.

The alternative is don't draft great players!

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
This his 1st year back from acl reconstruction. Dont be a fool. He still takes everyone off their blocking scheme. Hes the man. Hell be way better next season.

And so we should pay him more than the guy who has BEEN better for the past 3 season vs the expectations?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
TJ Watts first year wasn't better than Nicks. Nick was injured his 2nd year. Nick was better than TJ watt his 3rd year in the pros.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
TJ Watts first year wasn't better than Nicks. Nick was injured his 2nd year. Nick was better than TJ watt his 3rd year in the pros.

Equitable 1st year. Arguably Nick had Buckner to take the pressure off.
3rd year? half a sack more and much fewer tackles? and 0 picks to TJ's 2? 1 PDs to TJ's 8? I'm not sure what you're basing that opinion on.

And 72 sacks to 24.5 Career. TJ has shown that he is consistent. We can't make that claim with Nick. Sure the injury isn't his fault, but it still impacts the storyline. TJ is the more proven player and has out performed Nick. He has earned the bigger paycheck, regardless of which player I like better.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
TJ Watts first year wasn't better than Nicks. Nick was injured his 2nd year. Nick was better than TJ watt his 3rd year in the pros.

Equitable 1st year. Arguably Nick had Buckner to take the pressure off.
3rd year? half a sack more and much fewer tackles? and 0 picks to TJ's 2? 1 PDs to TJ's 8? I'm not sure what you're basing that opinion on.

And 72 sacks to 24.5 Career. TJ has shown that he is consistent. We can't make that claim with Nick. Sure the injury isn't his fault, but it still impacts the storyline. TJ is the more proven player and has out performed Nick. He has earned the bigger paycheck, regardless of which player I like better.

So the best QB is always the highest paid? It's simple inflation, the salary cap goes up, so the contracts go up. You only need to be in the same ballpark as the market setter and you'll go over it.

There's no one who doesn't think Bosa is in that ballpark.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
TJ Watts first year wasn't better than Nicks. Nick was injured his 2nd year. Nick was better than TJ watt his 3rd year in the pros.

Equitable 1st year. Arguably Nick had Buckner to take the pressure off.
3rd year? half a sack more and much fewer tackles? and 0 picks to TJ's 2? 1 PDs to TJ's 8? I'm not sure what you're basing that opinion on.

And 72 sacks to 24.5 Career. TJ has shown that he is consistent. We can't make that claim with Nick. Sure the injury isn't his fault, but it still impacts the storyline. TJ is the more proven player and has out performed Nick. He has earned the bigger paycheck, regardless of which player I like better.

So the best QB is always the highest paid? It's simple inflation, the salary cap goes up, so the contracts go up. You only need to be in the same ballpark as the market setter and you'll go over it.

There's no one who doesn't think Bosa is in that ballpark.

Bosa is in that ballpark talent wise. He also has 2 more years on this contract, so the 9ers don't need to pay him now.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
That wasn't the discussion. The discussion was how much he was gonna have to be paid

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
That wasn't the discussion. The discussion was how much he was gonna have to be paid

And if he gets paid this year, that'll have a tremendous impact.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
That wasn't the discussion. The discussion was how much he was gonna have to be paid

And if he gets paid this year, that'll have a tremendous impact.

Why would they when they just picked up his 5th year option

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
That wasn't the discussion. The discussion was how much he was gonna have to be paid

And if he gets paid this year, that'll have a tremendous impact.

Why would they when they just picked up his 5th year option