Mitch Wishnowsky - Punter (Utah) is a 49er

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by irief:

I still can't stand this pick. 4th and other late round picks have been Gold for this team. Kittle, Greenlaw, DJ Jones, etc. Can't believe they wasted on an old, weak legged, below average punter. Nothing about him impressed me last year. Infact there were undrafted punters that ate his lunch last year. I doubt he's getting any better/stronger. Dude's already in his late twenties.

Of all the players drafted by Shanny/Lynch, this one really annoys me.

He's the same age as Jimmy G. As a rookie lol and people still defend this pick. Sigh

So you guys think players hit their ceiling as a rookie?

No but a rookie year at a position with minimal change is usually a good precursor of ones career such as kickers and punters. And when you factor in Mitchs age (currently 28) with his mediocre play spending a 4th rounder on him looks like it was a minor mistake.

Minimal change? They asked him to handle kickoffs too. He just didnt need to punt a lot, that's a good thing btw. When he was asked to punt he was good at pinning teams inside the 20, that's also good btw. The other major job of a punter is to get hang time and prevent returns and TD's, he was one of the best in the league at that, once again...that's a good thing.

What exactly was it again that was mediocre? His age?

He sucked as a holder and contributed to missed points. He sucked in kick offs with his weak noodle leg. His punts were mediocre at best, with plenty of shanks. Dudes almost 30, which is a joke.

Plenty of shanks

Medicare Mitch will be Mediocre at best. Needs to really dedicate himself to even have a chance at mediocre. Waste of a pick. Should've been a mid season walk on, not a 4th.

he hasnt been that bad. hes pretty decent. but ya, not worth a 4th. should've been a UDFA

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by irief:

I still can't stand this pick. 4th and other late round picks have been Gold for this team. Kittle, Greenlaw, DJ Jones, etc. Can't believe they wasted on an old, weak legged, below average punter. Nothing about him impressed me last year. Infact there were undrafted punters that ate his lunch last year. I doubt he's getting any better/stronger. Dude's already in his late twenties.

Of all the players drafted by Shanny/Lynch, this one really annoys me.

He's the same age as Jimmy G. As a rookie lol and people still defend this pick. Sigh

So you guys think players hit their ceiling as a rookie?

No but a rookie year at a position with minimal change is usually a good precursor of ones career such as kickers and punters. And when you factor in Mitchs age (currently 28) with his mediocre play spending a 4th rounder on him looks like it was a minor mistake.

Minimal change? They asked him to handle kickoffs too. He just didnt need to punt a lot, that's a good thing btw. When he was asked to punt he was good at pinning teams inside the 20, that's also good btw. The other major job of a punter is to get hang time and prevent returns and TD's, he was one of the best in the league at that, once again...that's a good thing.

What exactly was it again that was mediocre? His age?

He sucked as a holder and contributed to missed points. He sucked in kick offs with his weak noodle leg. His punts were mediocre at best, with plenty of shanks. Dudes almost 30, which is a joke.

Plenty of shanks

Medicare Mitch will be Mediocre at best. Needs to really dedicate himself to even have a chance at mediocre. Waste of a pick. Should've been a mid season walk on, not a 4th.

He's better than the one he replaced, yeah? And cheaper? And we won with him as our punter? That's good enough for me!

I am still waiting to see his Grubber, that runs along the ground like an onsides kick and then boom , rockets to the sky. Or the wobbler, which takes punts in the Levi air , already moving the ball on a windy afternoon, and makes it come down like....well a knuckler. There are a couple others, but we have only seen the wobbler once, and even then i am not so sure. But that is a HC call...and so far, kyle flat out hasn't used it...or them. We do know that on punts he likes the 15 yd line and in. And definitely at the OOB marker. Nobody ever comments on that, but his punts just don't get big returns on them...well there was one but Mitch greased that guy and the PR never knew what hit him.

Just a guess, but to date kyle has had a lot bigger fish to fry...and punter was not one of them. Now that he has figured out how to get us to the SB, maybe he will start looking at the little things when added together might just get us to SB and this time leave with a Lombardi. So far, Mitch's talents have not been showcased, but man i want to see that wobbler esp between the 15 and 20. Also, can't wait for kyle to call for the grubber. More than once too, once everyone has seen it. I love the guy and the fact he is a real football player.

M/care Mitch...funny 'cause he's the last guy to say that about.

Originally posted by 49erF90:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by irief:

I still can't stand this pick. 4th and other late round picks have been Gold for this team. Kittle, Greenlaw, DJ Jones, etc. Can't believe they wasted on an old, weak legged, below average punter. Nothing about him impressed me last year. Infact there were undrafted punters that ate his lunch last year. I doubt he's getting any better/stronger. Dude's already in his late twenties.

Of all the players drafted by Shanny/Lynch, this one really annoys me.

He's the same age as Jimmy G. As a rookie lol and people still defend this pick. Sigh

So you guys think players hit their ceiling as a rookie?

No but a rookie year at a position with minimal change is usually a good precursor of ones career such as kickers and punters. And when you factor in Mitchs age (currently 28) with his mediocre play spending a 4th rounder on him looks like it was a minor mistake.

Minimal change? They asked him to handle kickoffs too. He just didnt need to punt a lot, that's a good thing btw. When he was asked to punt he was good at pinning teams inside the 20, that's also good btw. The other major job of a punter is to get hang time and prevent returns and TD's, he was one of the best in the league at that, once again...that's a good thing.

What exactly was it again that was mediocre? His age?

He sucked as a holder and contributed to missed points. He sucked in kick offs with his weak noodle leg. His punts were mediocre at best, with plenty of shanks. Dudes almost 30, which is a joke.

Plenty of shanks

Medicare Mitch will be Mediocre at best. Needs to really dedicate himself to even have a chance at mediocre. Waste of a pick. Should've been a mid season walk on, not a 4th.

He's better than the one he replaced, yeah? And cheaper? And we won with him as our punter? That's good enough for me!

I think the phrase you're looking for is in spite of. As in we won games in spite of aarp Mitch.

Wonder if he uses a jitter bug to call the grand kids back in Crapstralia?

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by 49erF90:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by irief:

I still can't stand this pick. 4th and other late round picks have been Gold for this team. Kittle, Greenlaw, DJ Jones, etc. Can't believe they wasted on an old, weak legged, below average punter. Nothing about him impressed me last year. Infact there were undrafted punters that ate his lunch last year. I doubt he's getting any better/stronger. Dude's already in his late twenties.

Of all the players drafted by Shanny/Lynch, this one really annoys me.

He's the same age as Jimmy G. As a rookie lol and people still defend this pick. Sigh

So you guys think players hit their ceiling as a rookie?

No but a rookie year at a position with minimal change is usually a good precursor of ones career such as kickers and punters. And when you factor in Mitchs age (currently 28) with his mediocre play spending a 4th rounder on him looks like it was a minor mistake.

Minimal change? They asked him to handle kickoffs too. He just didnt need to punt a lot, that's a good thing btw. When he was asked to punt he was good at pinning teams inside the 20, that's also good btw. The other major job of a punter is to get hang time and prevent returns and TD's, he was one of the best in the league at that, once again...that's a good thing.

What exactly was it again that was mediocre? His age?

He sucked as a holder and contributed to missed points. He sucked in kick offs with his weak noodle leg. His punts were mediocre at best, with plenty of shanks. Dudes almost 30, which is a joke.

Plenty of shanks

Medicare Mitch will be Mediocre at best. Needs to really dedicate himself to even have a chance at mediocre. Waste of a pick. Should've been a mid season walk on, not a 4th.

He's better than the one he replaced, yeah? And cheaper? And we won with him as our punter? That's good enough for me!

I think the phrase you're looking for is in spite of. As in we won games in spite of aarp Mitch.

Wonder if he uses a jitter bug to call the grand kids back in Crapstralia?

Tell me what exactly do you think a punter does? You mad he cant throw TD's? Last I checked, pinning teams inside the 20 and preventing long returns is their job. If hes so weak ass why cant punt returners....you know...return his punts? Lemme guess, they weren't trying, or were told to fair catch, or anything that fails to give Wish any credit amirite.

Special Teams Weapon...they said.

Us fans can justify anything this FO does or doesn't do. Fanatic Faithfuls!

Originally posted by irief:

Medicare Mitch will be Mediocre at best. Needs to really dedicate himself to even have a chance at mediocre. Waste of a pick. Should've been a mid season walk on, not a 4th.

Really surprised at all the hate on Mitch, had to log in here and support him! I think he had a great rookie year and was worth the draft pick. Could we have signed him as a UDFA? Maybe? But we will never know for certain. We drafted him and he played well enough to punt in a super bowl. Not sure what you all expect from a punter, but all my years of watching 49ers football he definitely passes the eye test. Not looking at any stats for the year, I believe he came in and did his job great. Remember, he was just a rookie and will be even better this year. Stop the hate on Mitch! We got ourselves a punter for the next 10yrs and I'll take that :D ANDY LEE 2.0!! Cheers!

Originally posted by sf49ersfan7:

Really surprised at all the hate on Mitch, had to log in here and support him! I think he had a great rookie year and was worth the draft pick. Could we have signed him as a UDFA? Maybe? But we will never know for certain. We drafted him and he played well enough to punt in a super bowl. Not sure what you all expect from a punter, but all my years of watching 49ers football he definitely passes the eye test. Not looking at any stats for the year, I believe he came in and did his job great. Remember, he was just a rookie and will be even better this year. Stop the hate on Mitch! We got ourselves a punter for the next 10yrs and I'll take that :D ANDY LEE 2.0!! Cheers!

In 10 years he will be 38. Punters don't usually last that long.

Originally posted by sf49ersfan7:

Really surprised at all the hate on Mitch, had to log in here and support him! I think he had a great rookie year and was worth the draft pick. Could we have signed him as a UDFA? Maybe? But we will never know for certain. We drafted him and he played well enough to punt in a super bowl. Not sure what you all expect from a punter, but all my years of watching 49ers football he definitely passes the eye test. Not looking at any stats for the year, I believe he came in and did his job great. Remember, he was just a rookie and will be even better this year. Stop the hate on Mitch! We got ourselves a punter for the next 10yrs and I'll take that :D ANDY LEE 2.0!! Cheers!

During the season, we haven't heard Mitch's name a lot. It's a good thing because punter is one of those few positions who does his job when his name is seldom getting mentioned. You just hear his name when he make mistakes or punted poorly. I watched all the 49ers games and I don't recall his name getting mentioned in particular by any of the PBP analysts. So he did his job, he didn't do any significant costly mistake. And it was a his rookie season so he's still got a lot of room to improve. Good enough for me.

Originally posted by 49erF90:

Originally posted by sf49ersfan7:

Really surprised at all the hate on Mitch, had to log in here and support him! I think he had a great rookie year and was worth the draft pick. Could we have signed him as a UDFA? Maybe? But we will never know for certain. We drafted him and he played well enough to punt in a super bowl. Not sure what you all expect from a punter, but all my years of watching 49ers football he definitely passes the eye test. Not looking at any stats for the year, I believe he came in and did his job great. Remember, he was just a rookie and will be even better this year. Stop the hate on Mitch! We got ourselves a punter for the next 10yrs and I'll take that :D ANDY LEE 2.0!! Cheers!

During the season, we haven't heard Mitch's name a lot. It's a good thing because punter is one of those few positions who does his job when his name is seldom getting mentioned. You just hear his name when he make mistakes or punted poorly. I watched all the 49ers games and I don't recall his name getting mentioned in particular by any of the PBP analysts. So he did his job, he didn't do any significant costly mistake. And it was a his rookie season so he's still got a lot of room to improve. Good enough for me.

Like kicking the ball out of bounds in week 17 to give the Seahawks a shorter field in a must win game?

Andy Lee probably the best punter in 49er history and one of the best in NFL history. A tough act to follow.

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by 49erF90:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by irief:

I still can't stand this pick. 4th and other late round picks have been Gold for this team. Kittle, Greenlaw, DJ Jones, etc. Can't believe they wasted on an old, weak legged, below average punter. Nothing about him impressed me last year. Infact there were undrafted punters that ate his lunch last year. I doubt he's getting any better/stronger. Dude's already in his late twenties.

Of all the players drafted by Shanny/Lynch, this one really annoys me.

He's the same age as Jimmy G. As a rookie lol and people still defend this pick. Sigh

So you guys think players hit their ceiling as a rookie?

No but a rookie year at a position with minimal change is usually a good precursor of ones career such as kickers and punters. And when you factor in Mitchs age (currently 28) with his mediocre play spending a 4th rounder on him looks like it was a minor mistake.

Minimal change? They asked him to handle kickoffs too. He just didnt need to punt a lot, that's a good thing btw. When he was asked to punt he was good at pinning teams inside the 20, that's also good btw. The other major job of a punter is to get hang time and prevent returns and TD's, he was one of the best in the league at that, once again...that's a good thing.

What exactly was it again that was mediocre? His age?

He sucked as a holder and contributed to missed points. He sucked in kick offs with his weak noodle leg. His punts were mediocre at best, with plenty of shanks. Dudes almost 30, which is a joke.

Plenty of shanks

Medicare Mitch will be Mediocre at best. Needs to really dedicate himself to even have a chance at mediocre. Waste of a pick. Should've been a mid season walk on, not a 4th.

He's better than the one he replaced, yeah? And cheaper? And we won with him as our punter? That's good enough for me!

I think the phrase you're looking for is in spite of. As in we won games in spite of aarp Mitch.

Wonder if he uses a jitter bug to call the grand kids back in Crapstralia?

So, irief, so far you have called Mitch names, and alluded to where he is from as "Crapstralia" (degrading his homeland), so it is safe to assume you don't like him. Ok, why? There must be something you don't like about him dropping his punts between the 15 and 20 right at OOB marker. Maybe you don't like the fact that unlike any other punter in the NFL, he can tackle like an Abrams tank. Just once but it alerted the opponents PR teams to be on the lookout for a guy who can clean the PR's clock. What exactly is it that is your beef with Mitch....and name calling won't get it. Medicare Mitch sounds like you think he's too old ? What is it?

Maybe you haven't taken the time to go on U tube and look at one of his 49er punter workouts, where he displays , amongst others, the Grubber and the Wobbler. Been a yr or so since i watched that but there are others. If there is a question, it is our ST coach or kyle, who haven't taken advantage of what this talented kicker has to offer. And the fact that a lot of his punts don't get returned...well, what more could you ask? Two, three , yrs ago, we had an O that couldn't move the ball. (Except for JimmyGs first 5 starts here). Last yr we moved it up and down the field... a lot. Point is, if Mitch unloads on a punt it is out of the EZ. But he virtually never is kicking from much past the 50 yd line, so his punts will end up averaging less distance. If that is what this is about , well, maybe brushing up on punting philosophy might change your view of our punter.

And as far as being from Crapastralia, what is that about? Why run down a guy's country...especially one of the USA's greatest allies? As for his FOOTBALL prowess, did you by chance miss his demolishing the PR the one game where there was a good return on the punt? That was a tackle you NEVER see by a punter. Please elucidate for us what it is you obviously don't like about Mitch and his punting. Insulting him is not an answer to the question.

Mitch doesn't need anybody to defend him. If this is about avg length of punts, then you are ignoring where his punts have pinned the opponents. That is a lot more important than 3 or 4 more yds /punt.

Originally posted by RishikeshA:

Andy Lee probably the best punter in 49er history and one of the best in NFL history. A tough act to follow.

For Bradley Pinion absolutely

Obviously the guy that runs down Australia hasn't noticed how many punters from there are in the NFL. There Rugby background makes for some got punting techniques.