Mitch Wishnowsky - Punter (Utah) is a 49er

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

I get why punters are so unloved but there is something happening that the traditional fans are missing in my opinion.

Even though staple quality punters like Hekker and Lee have been around for a while, the very stat that is lauded is often not telling the true story.

Average punter length or even nett avg can be deceiving.

2019 Andy Lee Avg 47.8 ypp Nett 41.2 ypp Return avg 9ypr
2020 Avg 44.1 Nett 40.1 Return Avg 7ypr

2019 Hekker 47.4ypp Nett 42.4ypp Return 8.3 ypr
2020 Avg 46.6 Nett 39.6 Return Avg 19ypr

2019 Mitch 44.9 yyp Nett 41.6ypp Return 5.7 ypr
2020 Avg 47.9 Nett 43.3 Return Avg 5.8ypr

The other 2 seem to be out punting their coverage!

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

I get why punters are so unloved but there is something happening that the traditional fans are missing in my opinion.

Even though staple quality punters like Hekker and Lee have been around for a while, the very stat that is lauded is often not telling the true story.

Average punter length or even nett avg can be deceiving.

2019 Andy Lee Avg 47.8 ypp Nett 41.2 ypp Return avg 9ypr
2020 Avg 44.1 Nett 40.1 Return Avg 7ypr

2019 Hekker 47.4ypp Nett 42.4ypp Return 8.3 ypr
2020 Avg 46.6 Nett 39.6 Return Avg 19ypr

2019 Mitch 44.9 yyp Nett 41.6ypp Return 5.7 ypr
2020 Avg 47.9 Nett 43.3 Return Avg 5.8ypr

The other 2 seem to be out punting their coverage!

Joseph Charlton 47.0 avg 43.0 net 6.7 Avg return. UDFA! Don't waste picks on punters good ones go undrafted every year

Originally posted by Jiks:

Crying over a 4th round pick. Smh.

Originally posted by Jiks:

K, who else?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Crying over a 4th round pick. Smh.

I would rather miss on a position that has more influence on the game than use it to draft an average punter

Originally posted by Jiks:

K, who else?

You can do it

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Crying over a 4th round pick. Smh.

I would rather miss on a position that has more influence on the game than use it to draft an average punter

Originally posted by Jiks:

K, who else?

You can do it

Thought so.

You'd rather the player not even play than actually play. I don't really understand said logic but ok.

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by evil:

Agreed.

Bottom line is you have made claims that Wish is no Andy Lee to date and that Wish was the worst punter in the NFC West and both of those claims were proven wrong with facts.

Also at least wait if he ever makes all pro before comparing him to Lee. Dude hasn't achieved anything yet.

His stats are better than Lee this year but that is an unfair comparison for his stage of career. But it does seem to me that he will have to be HOF to measure up for your satisfaction.
Evil is way too polite.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Okay I'll entertain you. Cause you think you've actually proved anything in your mind.

Jack Fox came out same year as our punter went Undrafted didn't even play his rookie year. Literally any team could have signed him.

52.2 avg 47.7 net 5.3 average return

Let me guess your rebuttal is. Who else?

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Okay I'll entertain you. Cause you think you've actually proved anything in your mind.

Jack Fox came out same year as our punter went Undrafted didn't even play his rookie year. Literally any team could have signed him.

52.2 avg 47.7 net 5.3 average return

Let me guess your rebuttal is. Who else?

Agree with your points. Never seen anyone shill so hard for a punter before.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Okay I'll entertain you. Cause you think you've actually proved anything in your mind.

Jack Fox came out same year as our punter went Undrafted didn't even play his rookie year. Literally any team could have signed him.

52.2 avg 47.7 net 5.3 average return

Let me guess your rebuttal is. Who else?

Agree with your points. Never seen anyone shill so hard for a punter before.

i guess you can have a higher avg when you don't cross the 50 that much

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Okay I'll entertain you. Cause you think you've actually proved anything in your mind.

Jack Fox came out same year as our punter went Undrafted didn't even play his rookie year. Literally any team could have signed him.

52.2 avg 47.7 net 5.3 average return

Let me guess your rebuttal is. Who else?

Agree with your points. Never seen anyone shill so hard for a punter before.

i guess you can have a higher avg when you don't cross the 50 that much

Detroit and SF are almost identical offensively except we have played 1 more game. Here's your L on the comment

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Okay I'll entertain you. Cause you think you've actually proved anything in your mind.

Jack Fox came out same year as our punter went Undrafted didn't even play his rookie year. Literally any team could have signed him.

52.2 avg 47.7 net 5.3 average return

Let me guess your rebuttal is. Who else?

Agree with your points. Never seen anyone shill so hard for a punter before.

i guess you can have a higher avg when you don't cross the 50 that much

Detroit and SF are almost identical offensively except we have played 1 more game. Here's your L on the comment

what does identical offensively even mean

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Okay I'll entertain you. Cause you think you've actually proved anything in your mind.

Jack Fox came out same year as our punter went Undrafted didn't even play his rookie year. Literally any team could have signed him.

52.2 avg 47.7 net 5.3 average return

Let me guess your rebuttal is. Who else?

Agree with your points. Never seen anyone shill so hard for a punter before.

i guess you can have a higher avg when you don't cross the 50 that much

Detroit and SF are almost identical offensively except we have played 1 more game. Here's your L on the comment

what does identical offensively even mean

The offensive output is on average the same per game

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Okay I'll entertain you. Cause you think you've actually proved anything in your mind.

Jack Fox came out same year as our punter went Undrafted didn't even play his rookie year. Literally any team could have signed him.

52.2 avg 47.7 net 5.3 average return

Let me guess your rebuttal is. Who else?

Agree with your points. Never seen anyone shill so hard for a punter before.

i guess you can have a higher avg when you don't cross the 50 that much

Detroit and SF are almost identical offensively except we have played 1 more game. Here's your L on the comment

what does identical offensively even mean

The offensive output is on average the same per game

That wouldn't prove anything. not even prove who has a longer field to punt on when punting. In two games combined this year we punted only once

In that game with one punt, we punted at our own 45 which was FC at the 10 to net a 45 punt. is that an awful punt ?

Short fields can't net longer punts is my point

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Okay I'll entertain you. Cause you think you've actually proved anything in your mind.

Jack Fox came out same year as our punter went Undrafted didn't even play his rookie year. Literally any team could have signed him.

52.2 avg 47.7 net 5.3 average return

Let me guess your rebuttal is. Who else?

Agree with your points. Never seen anyone shill so hard for a punter before.

i guess you can have a higher avg when you don't cross the 50 that much

Detroit and SF are almost identical offensively except we have played 1 more game. Here's your L on the comment

what does identical offensively even mean

The offensive output is on average the same per game

That wouldn't prove anything. not even prove who has a longer field to punt on when punting. In two games combined this year we punted only once

In that game with one punt, we punted at our own 45 which was FC at the 10 to net a 45 punt. is that an awful punt ?

Short fields can't net longer punts is my point

I agree short fields can't net longer punts but our offense is average just like the lions. Well I don't watch any Lions games but both punters have 13 inside the 20 punts. Both teams average around 360 yards per game. I think it's reasonable to think Fox is getting the same average opportunities that Wish is.