Mitch Wishnowsky - Punter (Utah) is a 49er

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Waste of a f**king pick

I would prefer to replace all special teams next year including the coach

Sadly true.
I mean if Gould can't get kick offs to the end zone why have your other option always be unable too.

He made one good tackle on a kick off though but whiffed on the tackle for the TD. Not good. But I suppose you have to ask where were the guys that were supposed to make those tackles before he got to the kicker?

Any way this is a total waste of a pick if what they thought he could be good at he is average and the things he is actually good at are not used by coach even though that list seems to be diminishing.

I am willing to be proven wrong for the rest of the playoff run.

A punter drafted in the 4th round should be an elite "Eraser" in coverage. He missed the tackle badly yesterday in the KO return TD.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
A punter drafted in the 4th round should be an elite "Eraser" in coverage. He missed the tackle badly yesterday in the KO return TD.

Pretty weak effort too.

I rather have him lay the wood and get flagged like before.

Bet this dude takes a lot of grief from his teammates. Let's see next time if he lays out. I thought because he was an Aussie I heard all this about him having a rugby mentality lol.

All of his punts that should have been inside the 20 were touchbacks. Just a bad day all around for him.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
All of his punts that should have been inside the 20 were touchbacks. Just a bad day all around for him.

Good to have a fellow kicker weigh in

I personally like when kickoffs go to the goalline so the returner has to try to return it. However, there is a time and a place for touchbacks. And to me, going up 11 points with a few minutes left in the third quarter qualifies as a time for kicking the ball as far as you can.

I put that more on the coaches than Wish, though.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I personally like when kickoffs go to the goalline so the returner has to try to return it. However, there is a time and a place for touchbacks. And to me, going up 11 points with a few minutes left in the third quarter qualifies as a time for kicking the ball as far as you can.

I put that more on the coaches than Wish, though.

I don't think there's many times kicking it to the goal line is better than a guaranteed starting at the 25.

Replay at the game showed a Bruce Miller SB type hold to one of our guys on that return

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Replay at the game showed a Bruce Miller SB type hold to one of our guys on that return

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Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I personally like when kickoffs go to the goalline so the returner has to try to return it. However, there is a time and a place for touchbacks. And to me, going up 11 points with a few minutes left in the third quarter qualifies as a time for kicking the ball as far as you can.

I put that more on the coaches than Wish, though.

I don't think there's many times kicking it to the goal line is better than a guaranteed starting at the 25.

You will be amazed how often the return is short of the 25, especially accounting for holding and illegal block in the back penalties against the return team.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I personally like when kickoffs go to the goalline so the returner has to try to return it. However, there is a time and a place for touchbacks. And to me, going up 11 points with a few minutes left in the third quarter qualifies as a time for kicking the ball as far as you can.

I put that more on the coaches than Wish, though.

I don't think there's many times kicking it to the goal line is better than a guaranteed starting at the 25.

You will be amazed how often the return is short of the 25, especially accounting for holding and illegal block in the back penalties against the return team.

Average kickoff return since 2018 is 27 yards. Also risking injury and long returns to possibly stop a team inside the 25 yard line is a small reward for greater risks. I understand the argument and 100% disagree with kicking it short.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I personally like when kickoffs go to the goalline so the returner has to try to return it. However, there is a time and a place for touchbacks. And to me, going up 11 points with a few minutes left in the third quarter qualifies as a time for kicking the ball as far as you can.

I put that more on the coaches than Wish, though.

I don't think there's many times kicking it to the goal line is better than a guaranteed starting at the 25.

You will be amazed how often the return is short of the 25, especially accounting for holding and illegal block in the back penalties against the return team.

Average kickoff return since 2018 is 27 yards. Also risking injury and long returns to possibly stop a team inside the 25 yard line is a small reward for greater risks. I understand the argument and 100% disagree with kicking it short.

The average already accounts for the long return. It would be great to know the net starting position after accounting for penalties, which probably over 95% of the time is against the return team.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I personally like when kickoffs go to the goalline so the returner has to try to return it. However, there is a time and a place for touchbacks. And to me, going up 11 points with a few minutes left in the third quarter qualifies as a time for kicking the ball as far as you can.

I put that more on the coaches than Wish, though.

I don't think there's many times kicking it to the goal line is better than a guaranteed starting at the 25.

You will be amazed how often the return is short of the 25, especially accounting for holding and illegal block in the back penalties against the return team.

Average kickoff return since 2018 is 27 yards. Also risking injury and long returns to possibly stop a team inside the 25 yard line is a small reward for greater risks. I understand the argument and 100% disagree with kicking it short.

There are only 3 teams in the entire NFL that are averaging 25 yards or more on kick returns in 2021.