Mitch Wishnowsky - Punter (Utah) is a 49er

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Wishnowski is easily top ten.

Then how do you explain no probowls? He's not even in the top half of NFC west punters.

Interested to see who you're top ten are.

Niners probably thought they were getting the next Dickson, instead they got another Hayne.

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Wishnowski is easily top ten.

Then how do you explain no probowls? He's not even in the top half of NFC west punters.

Interested to see who you're top ten are.

You know only 2 punters go to the probowl right?

Originally posted by irief:
Niners probably thought they were getting the next Dickson, instead they got another Hayne.

Stay off the turps mate. You're just dribbling

Originally posted by bewdynewk:

Originally posted by irief:
Niners probably thought they were getting the next Dickson, instead they got another Hayne.

Stay off the turps mate. You're just dribbling

Still sore about Hayne? Hitching your wagon to Mitch is only going to continue the pain.

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Wishnowski is easily top ten.

Then how do you explain no probowls? He's not even in the top half of NFC west punters.

Interested to see who you're top ten are.

You know only 2 punters go to the probowl right?

Would've never guessed. He's not in most top ten lists. CBS has a solid list for 2022 with Dickson at the top. Hard to argue against that.

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Wishnowski is easily top ten.

Then how do you explain no probowls? He's not even in the top half of NFC west punters.

Interested to see who you're top ten are.

Can you point to one let alone 10 punters in the league that has a better Net with more balls downed inside the 20 with less attempts then Wish?

You can't, because when it comes to taking away punt returns and pinning teams deep inside their 20, Wish was the best in the league last year for his volume.

I think Wish is showing people how simplistic their takes are on punters. Just because a punter does not jack 50 yards every punt it does not mean there is not an underlying strength in their leg, it just means the coaches probably valued net and return rate more then they valued raw distance.

It is funny because the top punter in the league last year averaged like 50 yards per punt, but had far more returnable punts, and gave up a TON of return yards per returnable punt. People tend to forget NET is not actually the same thing as return yards per punt.

You can pin a returner into a fair catch, remove the threat of return, improve the situation for your defense, and put the team in a better position to WIN the ball game at the EXPENSE of your NET and Yardage. Quickest way to add 5 yards to your net is blast the ball out of the back of the endzone every chance you get and rack up some touchbacks. Great for your stats, bad for you team...but hey guys on the internet will love you.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Wishnowski is easily top ten.

Then how do you explain no probowls? He's not even in the top half of NFC west punters.

Interested to see who you're top ten are.

Can you point to one let alone 10 punters in the league that has a better Net with more balls downed inside the 20 with less attempts then Wish?

You can't, because when it comes to taking away punt returns and pinning teams deep inside their 20, Wish was the best in the league last year for his volume.

I think Wish is showing people how simplistic their takes are on punters. Just because a punter does not jack 50 yards every punt it does not mean there is not an underlying strength in their leg, it just means the coaches probably valued net and return rate more then they valued raw distance.

It is funny because the top punter in the league last year averaged like 50 yards per punt, but had far more returnable punts, and gave up a TON of return yards per returnable punt. People tend to forget NET is not actually the same thing as return yards per punt.

You can pin a returner into a fair catch, remove the threat of return, improve the situation for your defense, and put the team in a better position to WIN the ball game at the EXPENSE of your NET and Yardage. Quickest way to add 5 yards to your net is blast the ball out of the back of the endzone every chance you get and rack up some touchbacks. Great for your stats, bad for you team...but hey guys on the internet will love you.

And yet no all pro selections or pro bowls. Check cbs rankings. You're trying too hard.

Originally posted by irief:
And yet no all pro selections or pro bowls. Check cbs rankings. You're trying too hard.

Who cares. Pro Bowl games are a wank.

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Wishnowski is easily top ten.

Then how do you explain no probowls? He's not even in the top half of NFC west punters.

Interested to see who you're top ten are.

Can you point to one let alone 10 punters in the league that has a better Net with more balls downed inside the 20 with less attempts then Wish?

You can't, because when it comes to taking away punt returns and pinning teams deep inside their 20, Wish was the best in the league last year for his volume.

I think Wish is showing people how simplistic their takes are on punters. Just because a punter does not jack 50 yards every punt it does not mean there is not an underlying strength in their leg, it just means the coaches probably valued net and return rate more then they valued raw distance.

It is funny because the top punter in the league last year averaged like 50 yards per punt, but had far more returnable punts, and gave up a TON of return yards per returnable punt. People tend to forget NET is not actually the same thing as return yards per punt.

You can pin a returner into a fair catch, remove the threat of return, improve the situation for your defense, and put the team in a better position to WIN the ball game at the EXPENSE of your NET and Yardage. Quickest way to add 5 yards to your net is blast the ball out of the back of the endzone every chance you get and rack up some touchbacks. Great for your stats, bad for you team...but hey guys on the internet will love you.

And yet no all pro selections or pro bowls. Check cbs rankings. You're trying too hard.

Nah not really, not trying at all actually. That was low effort...

I will say tho, if you are a real CBS fan... you should go check out what they use to think of Jeff George. CBS was pretty sure he was gonna change the NFL with that Cannon arm of his.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Wishnowski is easily top ten.

Then how do you explain no probowls? He's not even in the top half of NFC west punters.

Interested to see who you're top ten are.

Can you point to one let alone 10 punters in the league that has a better Net with more balls downed inside the 20 with less attempts then Wish?

You can't, because when it comes to taking away punt returns and pinning teams deep inside their 20, Wish was the best in the league last year for his volume.

I think Wish is showing people how simplistic their takes are on punters. Just because a punter does not jack 50 yards every punt it does not mean there is not an underlying strength in their leg, it just means the coaches probably valued net and return rate more then they valued raw distance.

It is funny because the top punter in the league last year averaged like 50 yards per punt, but had far more returnable punts, and gave up a TON of return yards per returnable punt. People tend to forget NET is not actually the same thing as return yards per punt.

You can pin a returner into a fair catch, remove the threat of return, improve the situation for your defense, and put the team in a better position to WIN the ball game at the EXPENSE of your NET and Yardage. Quickest way to add 5 yards to your net is blast the ball out of the back of the endzone every chance you get and rack up some touchbacks. Great for your stats, bad for you team...but hey guys on the internet will love you.

And yet no all pro selections or pro bowls. Check cbs rankings. You're trying too hard.

Nah not really, not trying at all actually. That was low effort...

I will say tho, if you are a real CBS fan... you should go check out what they use to think of Jeff George. CBS was pretty sure he was gonna change the NFL with that Cannon arm of his.

It was a good post. Not too me mention Wish is in the top 10 of pretty much every important punting stat. He not a top 2 punter so that's why he's not a probowler. He is better better than a good chunk though.

Originally posted by bewdynewk:
Stay off the turps mate. You're just dribbling

Even turps lovers are in this greif nut's sights. Can only imagine they were bitten by a funnelweb / bluering / or king brown and never returned back to normal.

Anyway Newk...back to normal programming. Mitch outplayed Johnston who also punted well.

Players actually have incentives to make the probowl and all pro in their contract, so it does matter. Mitch is so far behind due to his draft status, that even if he makes next three in a row he's still a fail.
They should give him the courtesy of letting him go so he can have a change of scenery, like they did for Solly. Too much weight on his shoulders now, and it's probably affected his performance. Similar to AS and Solly.

Originally posted by irief:
Players actually have incentives to make the probowl and all pro in their contract, so it does matter. Mitch is so far behind due to his draft status, that even if he makes next three in a row he's still a fail.
They should give him the courtesy of letting him go so he can have a change of scenery, like they did for Solly. Too much weight on his shoulders now, and it's probably affected his performance. Similar to AS and Solly.

You are our of your mind on this statement.

You know what, he doesn't need a chance of scenery. You are a minority in the fan base to be so critical of Wisknowsky. The vast majority don't care at this point that he was a 4th round pick. I suppose in every fan base there are always a few who are critical of everything, so a chance of scenery is really not necessary.

Originally posted by irief:
Players actually have incentives to make the probowl and all pro in their contract, so it does matter. Mitch is so far behind due to his draft status, that even if he makes next three in a row he's still a fail.
They should give him the courtesy of letting him go so he can have a change of scenery, like they did for Solly. Too much weight on his shoulders now, and it's probably affected his performance. Similar to AS and Solly.

So because he was a 4th round pick and hasn't made a pro bowl, we should cut him and move on?

In essence you want to cut a guy not for what he has done (which to date his performance has been good yet not great) but for what he hasn't done which is become one of the consensus very best at his position?

Reality is that you can't have All Pro's at every position. And the grass isn't always greener on the other side, no guarantees FA or the next draft class yield a punter just as good or better.

This team does not need to focus on fixing things that are not broke.