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Originally posted by theduke85:Andy Lee landed punts inside the 20 ~32% of the time. Bradley Pinion in his time with the 49ers landed punts inside the 20 about 34% of the time (Pro Football Focus claimed he did this 39% of the time). You're just making sweeping, hand-wavy statements that aren't really backed up by stats.Originally posted by Nastastical:The next biggest thing is that a great punter definitely helps a top offense or defense because field position will always come into play. No one rolls every single game and never punts. You'll be in games against top defenses time to time and this is where he'll make his draft selection worth it. There is a huge difference between starting at the 20-30 and starting pinned inside the 10. The error for mistakes that could cause a game changing momentum swing is increased big time when a team is close to their own endzone. Basically if we have a drive stall out at midfield, you can almost guarantee that Wishnowsky will put the opposing team in a position they don't want to be in. You very rarely could say that about an average punter like Pinion because he couldn't directional punt to save his life. Andy Lee's ability to flip the field in our favor was a big time asset considering the type of teams we had when he was here. Those few extra yards can mean the difference in the opposing team getting to kick a FG or having to punt themselves. This is a game of inches and yards and every single one matters in close games.
Also you mention "because of the type of teams we had here". As I said in my previous post, the 49ers are going to have one of the best offenses in the league if things go as planned. Better offense = less punts = ROI on the punter is marginalized more and more. Again, Andy Lee punted 94 times with the Cardinals last year, whereas the Saints only punted 43 times.
Originally posted by goodthings19:
Originally posted by Nastastical:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Great 49ers gift ideas ⇨Here is why the @49ers went in the 4th for this guy @mitchwish and he'll be a big asset to the defence this season. He also has a very accurate going in kick, so they see him as quite a weapon @jenniferleechan pic.twitter.com/5yoCJ1SrFd
— Prokick Australia (@ProkickAus) May 4, 2019
He gets so much hang time on his kicks. You can clearly see why returners struggle to get any yards against him.
5 seconds of hang time
Originally posted by Bobdawg78:Another perk of having drafted this punter, is that we have 4 years of cost certainty in him. He is gonna cost far less than a FA punter would, and guaranteeing a minimum 4 year starter for us with a 4th round pick is not a bad investment, especially when it was a position of need, and we drafted one of the best to come out of college over the last 20 years. No point in whining over this pick anymore, we need to embrace it, and be happy we got a good punter again.
Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:
Originally posted by Jiks:
53 pages for a punter lol.
It's just another page for some like me who have nothing qualified to say about x and os.
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Here's an idea I saw posted that I think is worth repeating. For all of you who are bagging on this pick, make a list of players you would have rather had at this spot, who were actually available. Post it in the thread now so that there isn't any temptation to add late round gems who no one saw coming but ended up making a big impact on their respective teams. At the end of the season we can revisit your picks and compare how much of a difference they made on their teams to the impact that Wishnowsky makes for the 49ers. To begin with he will be a day one starter, which gives him a tiny step up on probably anyone who was picked after him. So there is that, even if he is only a punter. If he is able to consistently put kicks inside the 10 or limit the amount of punt return yards that teams get against us than that seems like it would be well worth a fourth round pick as opposed to some guy who turns out to be a back-up at his position. But we can let the contributions of the players you list actually determine their value rather than assigning some arbitrary value to them based on their draft position. That way you will all have a chance to prove how much smarter you are than the 49ers front office.
Originally posted by Jiks:
53 pages for a punter lol.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:Originally posted by Jiks:53 pages for a punter lol.
It's just another page for some like me who have nothing qualified to say about x and os.
Jiks is just jealous. This thread gonna triple in size once Mitch wins Super Bowl MVP!
Originally posted by NCommand:https://www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/2078-punter-theory-deconstructing-49ers-fourth-round-pick/
Translation: punters are pretty useless in affecting the outcome of a game as long as they don't get kicks blocked on the regular.
I'd even argue having a great gunner is even more important than the punter themselves.
Originally posted by Nastastical:Originally posted by Bobdawg78:Another perk of having drafted this punter, is that we have 4 years of cost certainty in him. He is gonna cost far less than a FA punter would, and guaranteeing a minimum 4 year starter for us with a 4th round pick is not a bad investment, especially when it was a position of need, and we drafted one of the best to come out of college over the last 20 years. No point in whining over this pick anymore, we need to embrace it, and be happy we got a good punter again.
It's not even so much about the punter, but the notion that some 4th round DB or OL was going to come in and play a significant role on this team. It's the arrogance of some fans that feel like their uninformed draft grades on a prospect hold more weight than our front office. Any of you guys ever stop to think that maybe our guys running the show just didn't have high grades on most of the players on the board? Or even that they might've had similar grades on a ton of prospects and felt that there will be guys drafted in the 4th round that have similar grades to the guys selected in the 6th-7th? If this is the case, why wouldn't you grab a player a little early if you felt he'd be gone before you picked again? Why risk losing him if you aren't in love with any of the other prospects available?
Everyone just assumes that they know everything all the time when it comes to sports and being a fan. Go grind your *ss off and climb the ladder of a NFL team if y'all feel you can contribute so much to building a team.
Lol you do realize I've been a Utah Utes season ticket holder since the 90's right? I absolutely love this pick and have witnessed this dude literally BOOM punts first hand. All the years I've had tickets I've never heard an actual boom like his echo throughout the stadium when he makes contact. It's pretty awesome and one of a kind.Originally posted by sacniner:Originally posted by Jiks:53 pages for a punter lol.
You rack up that many in the Trump thread on a weekly basis bro. At least this is 49erswebzone related.
This punter better be good. If he sucks, will bite Lynch in the ass. 4th rounder...
Originally posted by Nastastical:Why are you penciling in Wishnowsky as a known good?
Having peace of mind at a starting position is more important than grabbing a depth player that will most likely only heavily contribute on special team, the same special team's some of you are trying to argue its importance.