Mitch Wishnowsky - Punter (Utah) is a 49er

Originally posted by Jiks:

Lol you do realize I've been a Utah Utes season ticket holder since the 90's right? I absolutely love this pick and have witnessed this dude literally BOOM punts first hand. All the years I've had tickets I've never heard an actual boom like his echo throughout the stadium when he makes contact. It's pretty awesome and one of a kind.

Not sure what my political stance has to do with anything but I get it. Intolerance is at maximum around these parts.

Not about your political stance, you were laughing at hella posts about a Niner player on a Niner website when you have thousands of posts about Trump on a Niner website. Don't play victim again. Bad look.

So you think he's going to be good? Punter is very under appreciated by fans in general. Flipping the field is game changing

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Lol you do realize I've been a Utah Utes season ticket holder since the 90's right? I absolutely love this pick and have witnessed this dude literally BOOM punts first hand. All the years I've had tickets I've never heard an actual boom like his echo throughout the stadium when he makes contact. It's pretty awesome and one of a kind.

Not sure what my political stance has to do with anything but I get it. Intolerance is at maximum around these parts.

Not about your political stance, you were laughing at hella posts about a Niner player on a Niner website when you have thousands of posts about Trump on a Niner website. Don't play victim again. Bad look.

So you think he's going to be good? Punter is very under appreciated by fans in general. Flipping the field is game changing

Just leave politics out of other threads than the dedicated threads it's unnecessary. From one human to the next, please.

He was a fan favorite in Utah and if he does the exact same in the NFL he'll be a fan favorite for us. I was surprised that we drafted him so early but if you look at our past 10 years the only decent 4th rounder we've drafted was Kendall Hunter so the chances we hit on a Punter are way better than any other position.

PS I wasn't laughing, I actually am proud that Wishnowski is so popular.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Just leave politics out of other threads than the dedicated threads it's unnecessary. From one human to the next, please.

He was a fan favorite in Utah and if he does the exact same in the NFL he'll be a fan favorite for us. I was surprised that we drafted him so early but if you look at our past 10 years the only decent 4th rounder we've drafted was Kendall Hunter so the chances we hit on a Punter are way better than any other position.

PS I wasn't laughing, I actually am proud that Wishnowski is so popular.

Yeah the 4th round big is real. That dude street (4th rounder last year) still hasn't played. Hopefully we have our punter for the next decade

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Here's an idea I saw posted that I think is worth repeating. For all of you who are bagging on this pick, make a list of players you would have rather had at this spot, who were actually available. Post it in the thread now so that there isn't any temptation to add late round gems who no one saw coming but ended up making a big impact on their respective teams. At the end of the season we can revisit your picks and compare how much of a difference they made on their teams to the impact that Wishnowsky makes for the 49ers. To begin with he will be a day one starter, which gives him a tiny step up on probably anyone who was picked after him. So there is that, even if he is only a punter. If he is able to consistently put kicks inside the 10 or limit the amount of punt return yards that teams get against us than that seems like it would be well worth a fourth round pick as opposed to some guy who turns out to be a back-up at his position. But we can let the contributions of the players you list actually determine their value rather than assigning some arbitrary value to them based on their draft position. That way you will all have a chance to prove how much smarter you are than the 49ers front office.

LOL...was wondering who left that comment.

Start with Pick 9 and keep going...

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/picks?round=4

Lol 'politics free' thread

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NCommand:

https://www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/2078-punter-theory-deconstructing-49ers-fourth-round-pick/


Translation: punters are pretty useless in affecting the outcome of a game as long as they don't get kicks blocked on the regular.

I'd even argue having a great gunner is even more important than the punter themselves.

I agree with you..
Front office should have grabbed any interior O-lineman or a free safety that was still available.

Wards never is available and we need someone that can stay on the field.

Someone should do some objective analysis and review the splits of Pinion's averages during and after Mostert got hurt --- just need a leg.

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Having peace of mind at a starting position is more important than grabbing a depth player that will most likely only heavily contribute on special team, the same special team's some of you are trying to argue its importance.

Why are you penciling in Wishnowsky as a known good?

How do we know he's going to be league average, let alone an asset or difference-maker that justifies taking him this high?

Bradley Pinion was the first (and only) punter drafted in 2015. As the first punter off the board and a 5th round pick, was he destined to be an asset?

That's my favorite argument.

WZ RATIONALE LOGIC 101: Draft Pick X
Step 1: Minimize the unknown product - "A 4th rounder never pans out or at best, is just a lowly backup often times inactive on game days"
Step 2: Massively overstate the value of actual pick - "Yeah but he'll give you 10 years, will be an automatic pro bowler from day 1 and all pro and is currently being fitted for his HOF jacket; the dude swings games in our favor like no other."

Originally posted by Jiks:

Just leave politics out of other threads than the dedicated threads it's unnecessary. From one human to the next, please.

He was a fan favorite in Utah and if he does the exact same in the NFL he'll be a fan favorite for us. I was surprised that we drafted him so early but if you look at our past 10 years the only decent 4th rounder we've drafted was Kendall Hunter so the chances we hit on a Punter are way better than any other position.

PS I wasn't laughing, I actually am proud that Wishnowski is so popular.

Well, the first step in being a fan is learning to spell his name right.

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's my favorite argument.

WZ RATIONALE LOGIC 101: Draft Pick X
Step 1: Minimize the unknown product - "A 4th rounder never pans out or at best, is just a lowly backup often times inactive on game days"
Step 2: Massively overstate the value of actual pick - "Yeah but he'll give you 10 years, will be an automatic pro bowler from day 1 and all pro and is currently being fitted for his HOF jacket; the dude swings games in our favor like no other."

John Keith
Jeff Chandler
Kevin Curtis
Brandon Lloyd
Isaac Sopoaga
Richard Seigler
Michael Robinson
Jay Moore
Dashon Goldson
Joe Cohen
Cody Wallace
Kendall Hunter
Joe Looney
Quinton Patton
Marcus Lattimore
Bruce Ellington
Dontae Johnson
Blake Bell
Mike Davis
DeAndre Smelter
Rashard Robinson
Joe Williams
Kentavius Street
What do these players have in common? Niner 4th rounders of the last 20 years. An awful lot of chaff for some wheat, but there's three Pro-Bowls there (Goldson 2, Robinson 1 as a Seahawk)!

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

John Keith
Jeff Chandler
Kevin Curtis
Brandon Lloyd
Isaac Sopoaga
Richard Seigler
Michael Robinson
Jay Moore
Dashon Goldson
Joe Cohen
Cody Wallace
Kendall Hunter
Joe Looney
Quinton Patton
Marcus Lattimore
Bruce Ellington
Dontae Johnson
Blake Bell
Mike Davis
DeAndre Smelter
Rashard Robinson
Joe Williams
Kentavius Street
What do these players have in common? Niner 4th rounders of the last 20 years. An awful lot of chaff for some wheat, but there's three Pro-Bowls there (Goldson 2, Robinson 1 as a Seahawk)!

Translation: All NINER 4th round draft picks suck. Therefore Mitch Wishnowsky will suck too.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Here is why the @49ers went in the 4th for this guy @mitchwish and he'll be a big asset to the defence this season. He also has a very accurate going in kick, so they see him as quite a weapon @jenniferleechan pic.twitter.com/5yoCJ1SrFd

— Prokick Australia (@ProkickAus) May 4, 2019

Nice, thanks for posting

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Here is why the @49ers went in the 4th for this guy @mitchwish and he'll be a big asset to the defence this season. He also has a very accurate going in kick, so they see him as quite a weapon @jenniferleechan pic.twitter.com/5yoCJ1SrFd

— Prokick Australia (@ProkickAus) May 4, 2019

Nice, thanks for posting

There was a split second I could not longer see the ball and i swear, it bounced off the moon. I fully expect Alien contact any day now. Wishnowsky transcends the Universe.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Here's an idea I saw posted that I think is worth repeating. For all of you who are bagging on this pick, make a list of players you would have rather had at this spot, who were actually available. Post it in the thread now so that there isn't any temptation to add late round gems who no one saw coming but ended up making a big impact on their respective teams. At the end of the season we can revisit your picks and compare how much of a difference they made on their teams to the impact that Wishnowsky makes for the 49ers. To begin with he will be a day one starter, which gives him a tiny step up on probably anyone who was picked after him. So there is that, even if he is only a punter. If he is able to consistently put kicks inside the 10 or limit the amount of punt return yards that teams get against us than that seems like it would be well worth a fourth round pick as opposed to some guy who turns out to be a back-up at his position. But we can let the contributions of the players you list actually determine their value rather than assigning some arbitrary value to them based on their draft position. That way you will all have a chance to prove how much smarter you are than the 49ers front office.

LOL...was wondering who left that comment.

Start with Pick 9 and keep going...

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/picks?round=4

About the sort of response I would expect from all of the armchair GM's in here. No problem with endlessly complaining about a pick but unwilling to go on the record with an alternative selection and being held to account for it even in someplace as meaningless as a fan forum. Easier to talk about all the guys we "could" have had with the pick than to actually pick one who fills a need on the team and will in their opinion produce at a more meaningful level than Wishnowsky might. I am perfectly willing to be proven wrong in argument, are any of you?

Originally posted by 49ers81:
About the sort of response I would expect from all of the armchair GM's in here. No problem with endlessly complaining about a pick but unwilling to go on the record with an alternative selection and being held to account for it even in someplace as meaningless as a fan forum. Easier to talk about all the guys we "could" have had with the pick than to actually pick one who fills a need on the team and will in their opinion produce at a more meaningful level than Wishnowsky might. I am perfectly willing to be proven wrong in argument, are any of you?

Wow! You sound like me. Did I write this?