Mitch Wishnowsky - Punter (Utah) is a 49er

Originally posted by Scottie15:
Kyle playing chess while the rest of the league is playing checkers

I'd love to see Kyle call a fake punt against Cheat Carroll and Sean McVay.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by zonkers:

Wishnowsky will be the first punter penalized for punting after crossing the line of scrimmage.

Can he anchor though?

Originally posted by Goatie:

Consistency is important. Particularly for this OCDs on here. This clip is for them...

50+ with 4.8 hang time. How many NFL punters do that? Probably 3 or less.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Just a friendly reminder that P Mitch Wishnowsky runs a 4.64 40! Speed kills! Fake punt game is about to be lethal! @mitchwish #49ers pic.twitter.com/9hPmeImSJq

— ourSF49ers (@OSf49ers) May 4, 2019

Having a guy that fast and not afraid to tackle on both the kickoff and punt return teams is another reason why I am okay with him in the 4th round.

Also, statistically speaking, only 29% of the OL drafted in the 4th round ever become starters and only 17% of DBs, which are probably the two positions that we could have drafted an upgrade for our team in the 4th. Not to mention, that Shanahan said they graded Greenlaw as a 4th rounder, so he very well could have been our pick at 110.

Finally, let's not forget last year when all the arm chair GMs were pissed that we didn't draft Josh Sweat when we clearly needed an upgrade at Edge Rusher. Sweat had 1 tackle and 1 QB hit in 9 games last year as a rookie. Maybe, the 6 OLineman, 4CBs, and 5 Safeties we passed on before we took Greenlaw weren't viewed as obvious upgrades.

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Consistency is important. Particularly for this OCDs on here. This clip is for them...

50+ with 4.8 hang time. How many NFL punters do that? Probably 3 or less.

How many could do it once let alone time and time again!

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Consistency is important. Particularly for this OCDs on here. This clip is for them...

50+ with 4.8 hang time. How many NFL punters do that? Probably 3 or less.

How many could do it once let alone time and time again!

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hate to break the news to you but we're all armchair fans and GM's, including you. If you're going to label fans armchair GM's for not thinking we got good value at #110 and consider punter at the bottom of the position board that affects games the most, does that make you a "FO defender?" A Joe Fann of the forum? Of course not.
And again, you massively miss the point. I haven't seen a single fan NOT like the player himself.

The issue is the FO tendencies to overvalue and massively overpay for positions that have the least affect on W-L's while deprioritizing those that do. They also lazer focus on players, freak out and draft them way too early and don't appear to read or care what the rest of the NFL is doing.

It's about a FO who after three years, still doesn't know how to play poker at the big boy table.

Exactly, I'm confident that MW will be a good punter, and I'm also confident that they could have traded back 10-15 spots to draft MW and also got another 5th rd pick

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Consistency is important. Particularly for this OCDs on here. This clip is for them...

50+ with 4.8 hang time. How many NFL punters do that? Probably 3 or less.

How many could do it once let alone time and time again!

Wow, pretty loose rules. Hang and distance. Half of king's went left out of bounds. Distance is good if needed, hang time a necessity, but accuracy will make or break the punt.

Originally posted by Who-is-Hayne:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Consistency is important. Particularly for this OCDs on here. This clip is for them...

50+ with 4.8 hang time. How many NFL punters do that? Probably 3 or less.

How many could do it once let alone time and time again!

Wow, pretty loose rules. Hang and distance. Half of king's went left out of bounds. Distance is good if needed, hang time a necessity, but accuracy will make or break the punt.

Wishnowsky will be landing them on a dime 95% of the time and on a dollar the rest

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Who-is-Hayne:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Consistency is important. Particularly for this OCDs on here. This clip is for them...

50+ with 4.8 hang time. How many NFL punters do that? Probably 3 or less.

How many could do it once let alone time and time again!

Wow, pretty loose rules. Hang and distance. Half of king's went left out of bounds. Distance is good if needed, hang time a necessity, but accuracy will make or break the punt.

Wishnowsky will be landing them on a dime 95% of the time and on a dollar the rest

The wild part is neither King or Morstead were coming close to the near 6secs of hang time by Wishnowsky. His ability to moon shot the f*** outta the ball is pretty ridiculous. You could barely see the ball in his videos because of how high was he kicking it.

I can't believe I just watched a punting competition.

Originally posted by Zealot:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Looks like he hit the pylon every time.

Accuracy, he said, he takes a lot of pride with...and consistency. Both on display here.

It's rare that you see a guy with a powerful leg still be able to kick with such accuracy and touch when needed. This is basically the same for every single sport. Most guys known for power aren't able to dial it down so easily.

I know not everyone here could give a f**k, but it's not really all that rare for an AFL player to have exceptional control when kicking. They just learn it as part of the game. In Aussie Rules, a huge part of the game is to kick on the full to a teammate who can be anywhere from 15-75yds away. You could be kicking from a variety of situations, anywhere from a standing start to a full sprint to a teammate who might be stationary or running towards, away or across your position. The means of scoring points is to kick the ball through the goal posts, often from 50yds plus out.

Without writing a novel about it, basically, to be a successful AFL player, you need to have accuracy, power, range, control etc in varying degrees dependant on position. The very best players exhibit all those qualities.

It makes perfect sense. It's awesome that translates so well...maybe even better than just college-to-the-NFL.

Originally posted by Zealot:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Consistency is important. Particularly for this OCDs on here. This clip is for them...

Awesome.

Absolutely terrific. Thanks for that!

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Having a guy that fast and not afraid to tackle on both the kickoff and punt return teams is another reason why I am okay with him in the 4th round.

Also, statistically speaking, only 29% of the OL drafted in the 4th round ever become starters and only 17% of DBs, which are probably the two positions that we could have drafted an upgrade for our team in the 4th. Not to mention, that Shanahan said they graded Greenlaw as a 4th rounder, so he very well could have been our pick at 110.

Finally, let's not forget last year when all the arm chair GMs were pissed that we didn't draft Josh Sweat when we clearly needed an upgrade at Edge Rusher. Sweat had 1 tackle and 1 QB hit in 9 games last year as a rookie. Maybe, the 6 OLineman, 4CBs, and 5 Safeties we passed on before we took Greenlaw weren't viewed as obvious upgrades.

Yeah, nearly 30% is actually really good. It's 50% for round 1. But the missing point here is projecting those players to OUR roster and that 30% goes up significantly. To a Championship roster, down to 10%. Throw in our 5-year injury history and the odds increase that even if player X doesn't win a starting spot outright, he'll still play significant snaps. I think there were a lot of players that could have provided much more value at bigger, more important positions of need. But like you said, ShanaLynch have their own board...and it certainly doesn't match up to the rest of the NFL by conventional standards.

The thing I am seeing with all the doubting Thomas's is that Shanahan and Lynch violated the conventional dogma. Thou shalt not pick a punter before the 6th round or maybe the 5th if you are the Giants.

It is like some rule and you commit heresy if you trespass that rule and it is a mortal sin that requires stoning.

Well Shanahan and Lynch have a long history in NFL. The former was sitting on the lap of his old man as a child learning more then all of us put together on this forum by way of top notch quality information.

To be a long term winner in this game you should not be bound by dogma but by taking calculated risks to get ahead of the game.

That is what Shanahan and Lynch did, as well as Hightower.

They really wanted this guy because he was the best in the draft and they needed a punter. They needed a punter more then they needed a forth round defensive back that may or may not started.

They took a calculated risk for the long term benefit of the team and not to impress newspaper critics and keyboard warriors.

Makes sense he runs a 4.64. Those Aussie footballers don't just stand around hands on hip. Me think he can make a good tackle too. Returners be warned.