"Big Play" Dre Greenlaw-OLB-Arkansas is a 49er

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
You knew this stuff coming with Brock. Paying high priced players and not on field will be the spotlight. Looking at injuries as a whole. Youth.

Brock is irrelevant to Greenlaw potentially not coming back. Completely irrelevant.

BS. We have holes to fill many places. Look at injuries, recurring and not. We have to pay Brock, fix OL. Do some defensive line work. Money doesn't grow on trees any longer. Look at a few other free agents.

This team needs to get younger even if fan feelings get hurt.

Brock's extension wouldnt kick in until 2026. We have the most capspace in the league. Our front office has stated many times they are prepared for Brock's extension. Greenlaw is coming off of a huge injury and only had a $9M cap hit in his last contract. Even if he gets a substantial raise (which would be interesting given the injury thing), his salary wouldnt be nearly enough to think that Brock's 2026 extension had anything to do with it.

A Brock extension wouldn't effect the cap until 2028, the first 3 yrs(2025-2027) would be in the $13M, $20M, & $25M cap number ranges, it'll be structured like Trevor Lawrence's deal is.

I don't think Dre is gone, I still see the 49ers keeping both Dre & Huf, letting Mooney & Banks walk, I think Dre is a top 10 off-ball LB, and he deserves a significant raise, and the 49ers CAN AFFORD him & Warner long term.

I agree we need Dre his leadership and dawg in him is infectious. Since we can afford him he should be kept with a competitive deal. But can we do a 1+1 deal so we protect the guarantees if there's future injury.
Huf i don't feel the same way. Not a good tackler and he's been taking bad angles.
Pappa thinks we will cut Hargrave then try to re sign him at a reduced rate, so maybe we can create this room for Dre without tapping into other needs.

Originally posted by KiwiM:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I hope Dre comes back, but he needs that bag. Niners fleeced his agent on that last deal.

It was also the timing of the last deal. He took the security of a multi year deal early but it was right before he became a star.

Correct me if I am wrong, but he also had surgery on both hammys back then no? So he has an injury history.

Originally posted by dj43:
So it begins.

Players up for FA are sending messages that they will go to a new team if they don't get what they want. They know what is reasonable, and their agent knows, and so do the 49ers. At this point, it is all posturing. No hard conclusions should be drawn from any of it at this point.

I fully believe all teams tamper and they may already know a team or two interested via their agent etc.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by dj43:
So it begins.

Players up for FA are sending messages that they will go to a new team if they don't get what they want. They know what is reasonable, and their agent knows, and so do the 49ers. At this point, it is all posturing. No hard conclusions should be drawn from any of it at this point.

I fully believe all teams tamper and they may already know a team or two interested via their agent etc.

It's not hard to believe Azeez and Meco shooting him texts saying he should to Houston.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by dj43:
So it begins.

Players up for FA are sending messages that they will go to a new team if they don't get what they want. They know what is reasonable, and their agent knows, and so do the 49ers. At this point, it is all posturing. No hard conclusions should be drawn from any of it at this point.

I fully believe all teams tamper and they may already know a team or two interested via their agent etc.

apparently Howie Roseman loves Greenlaw, even after the whole Big Dom thing, and Philly was planning on targeting Greenlaw in FA as far back as this last summmer, Do not have a source or anything, but i remember reading about it.

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by dj43:
So it begins.

Players up for FA are sending messages that they will go to a new team if they don't get what they want. They know what is reasonable, and their agent knows, and so do the 49ers. At this point, it is all posturing. No hard conclusions should be drawn from any of it at this point.

I fully believe all teams tamper and they may already know a team or two interested via their agent etc.

apparently Howie Roseman loves Greenlaw, even after the whole Big Dom thing, and Philly was planning on targeting Greenlaw in FA as far back as this last summmer, Do not have a source or anything, but i remember reading about it.

Interesting, I don't know their cap situation, but I can't imagine any team offering him anything crazy beyond what we could do. We shall see.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by dj43:
So it begins.

Players up for FA are sending messages that they will go to a new team if they don't get what they want. They know what is reasonable, and their agent knows, and so do the 49ers. At this point, it is all posturing. No hard conclusions should be drawn from any of it at this point.

I fully believe all teams tamper and they may already know a team or two interested via their agent etc.

apparently Howie Roseman loves Greenlaw, even after the whole Big Dom thing, and Philly was planning on targeting Greenlaw in FA as far back as this last summmer, Do not have a source or anything, but i remember reading about it.

Interesting, I don't know their cap situation, but I can't imagine any team offering him anything crazy beyond what we could do. We shall see.

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Why would anyone believe what Fred Warner's wife has to say?

Shes the most thirsty for attention

Love the guy but we have to move on from chronically injured players.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea being real optimistic I think Greenlaw is going to get paid somewhere else. Not super bucks but more than we are willing to pay. Looks for wherever Saleh Lands. Or the Titans or Texans to outbid us. Only hope we have is the injury concerns might hamper his efforts, But that's not really a plus.

I really could careless about what they play huf. dude just isn't all that great or important. They can upgrade that position in the draft for cheap

Ok good point

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
You knew this stuff coming with Brock. Paying high priced players and not on field will be the spotlight. Looking at injuries as a whole. Youth.

Brock is irrelevant to Greenlaw potentially not coming back. Completely irrelevant.

BS. We have holes to fill many places. Look at injuries, recurring and not. We have to pay Brock, fix OL. Do some defensive line work. Money doesn't grow on trees any longer. Look at a few other free agents.

This team needs to get younger even if fan feelings get hurt.

Brock's extension wouldnt kick in until 2026. We have the most capspace in the league. Our front office has stated many times they are prepared for Brock's extension. Greenlaw is coming off of a huge injury and only had a $9M cap hit in his last contract. Even if he gets a substantial raise (which would be interesting given the injury thing), his salary wouldnt be nearly enough to think that Brock's 2026 extension had anything to do with it.

A Brock extension wouldn't effect the cap until 2028, the first 3 yrs(2025-2027) would be in the $13M, $20M, & $25M cap number ranges, it'll be structured like Trevor Lawrence's deal is.

I don't think Dre is gone, I still see the 49ers keeping both Dre & Huf, letting Mooney & Banks walk, I think Dre is a top 10 off-ball LB, and he deserves a significant raise, and the 49ers CAN AFFORD him & Warner long term.

I agree we need Dre his leadership and dawg in him is infectious. Since we can afford him he should be kept with a competitive deal. But can we do a 1+1 deal so we protect the guarantees if there's future injury.
Huf i don't feel the same way. Not a good tackler and he's been taking bad angles.
Pappa thinks we will cut Hargrave then try to re sign him at a reduced rate, so maybe we can create this room for Dre without tapping into other needs.

They can do something where they give him the GTD money he wants, years, etc... But structure it so 1. they can get out of it after yr whatever it is, and 2. injury guarantees, I doubt any team will sign him without wanting some sorta injury guarantee(s) in the contract.

I doubt the 49ers bring back Hargrave, if they were going to they would have just eliminated his 2026 year, they redid both 2025 & 2026, lowering his 2025 down to $2.1M, and upped his 2026 to like $36M base salary wise, might be more can't remember for sure, but both years become GTD on the 2nd day of the new league year, so March 13th it should be, so he's gonna be a post June 1 cut designation, I think they did this to give him a chance to latch on somewhere else, I'd be surprised if he returns in 2025, wouldn't shock me if he doesn't find anything elsewhere, they could always move back the guarantee date, work something out, if he's healthy enough to pass a physical.

I just think they re-sign Hufanga, and go with Mustapha at FS, Huf at SS for the future, the defense has been better when both Dre & Huf are on the field.

I see them extending not just Brock this offseason, but also Kittle & Warner, saving the team almost $24M between those 2, while lowering Warner's 2026 cap number to help offset Brock's 2026 cap hit.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea being real optimistic I think Greenlaw is going to get paid somewhere else. Not super bucks but more than we are willing to pay. Looks for wherever Saleh Lands. Or the Titans or Texans to outbid us. Only hope we have is the injury concerns might hamper his efforts, But that's not really a plus.

I really could careless about what they play huf. dude just isn't all that great or important. They can upgrade that position in the draft for cheap

Ok good point

Forget the Titans, Ran Carthon got fired as GM, I doubt Dre wants to go to a rebuilding team.

Who is the best option in the draft at inside linebacker?

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea being real optimistic I think Greenlaw is going to get paid somewhere else. Not super bucks but more than we are willing to pay. Looks for wherever Saleh Lands. Or the Titans or Texans to outbid us. Only hope we have is the injury concerns might hamper his efforts, But that's not really a plus.

I really could careless about what they play huf. dude just isn't all that great or important. They can upgrade that position in the draft for cheap

Ok good point

Forget the Titans, Ran Carthon got fired as GM, I doubt Dre wants to go to a rebuilding team.

Yea I posted that before he got fired. And these guys will play for whoever comes with that check. Probably not preferred but money talks. Hope they can keep him but I don't see it. Dudes a beast and we aren't the only ppl that have noticed

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
You knew this stuff coming with Brock. Paying high priced players and not on field will be the spotlight. Looking at injuries as a whole. Youth.

Brock is irrelevant to Greenlaw potentially not coming back. Completely irrelevant.

BS. We have holes to fill many places. Look at injuries, recurring and not. We have to pay Brock, fix OL. Do some defensive line work. Money doesn't grow on trees any longer. Look at a few other free agents.

This team needs to get younger even if fan feelings get hurt.

Brock's extension wouldnt kick in until 2026. We have the most capspace in the league. Our front office has stated many times they are prepared for Brock's extension. Greenlaw is coming off of a huge injury and only had a $9M cap hit in his last contract. Even if he gets a substantial raise (which would be interesting given the injury thing), his salary wouldnt be nearly enough to think that Brock's 2026 extension had anything to do with it.

A Brock extension wouldn't effect the cap until 2028, the first 3 yrs(2025-2027) would be in the $13M, $20M, & $25M cap number ranges, it'll be structured like Trevor Lawrence's deal is.

I don't think Dre is gone, I still see the 49ers keeping both Dre & Huf, letting Mooney & Banks walk, I think Dre is a top 10 off-ball LB, and he deserves a significant raise, and the 49ers CAN AFFORD him & Warner long term.

Yes, you are more of the cap specialist than I. But my point stands. Brock's looming extension and whether or not Dre comes back to the team are not as linked as people are making it out to be.

I agree, should have said that when I posted this, Brock's deal has nothing to do with any of the potential FAs being brought back or being brought in, they most likely won't commit long term to many, if any, free agents, they won't sign a tier 1 FA that everyone on here will want, I see Dre, Huf, Moore, Dobbs, their ERFAs & RFAs all back for at least camp.