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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Again, this has never been stated to my knowledge by Lynch or Shanny. It's just assumed by fans is all.

Why would you draft a RT early in the first round with an aging LT if your intentions were not to move him to LT in the future?

Because in today's game, there's virtually no difference from LT to RT and you need BOTH. They were hoping to avoid being in this scenario for two more years with the Staley extension...probably try for another Staley-like prospect in next years draft or at least, the one after that.

There is a difference. Left tackle protects a right handed qbs blind side. Ends move around in this league regarding matchup. I'd much rather have Mcglinchy protecting Jimmy's back side than a rookie who had problems against nfl 3rd string pass rushers having to see a teams best rusher moving to his side every week until staley returns.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
It sucks Coleman got hurt, because in our system, he was a good fit for what we do. Skule has the athletic ability but he gets caught holding in pass protection because he stops moving his feet. Footwork is very coachable. He lacks experience but I think practicing against our guys is another bonus towards helping him get prepared.

Adding a vet may be possible, but not sure the team feels there's anyone out there worth it. I tried to advise Sam Young is/was truly terrible and some people argued there would be no drop-off from him versus Coleman -- we see how that turned out. Got beat out by an AAF player and a 6th round rookie.

Bottom line: Skule very likely is the best option in the meantime. He'll make some rookie mistakes, but we just need to ride with it and have others step up. My guess is, if they don't add a street FA, they might just call up Pope from the PS for additional depth in the meantime.

thank you. i also assumed they would bring in a guy for depth. but as you said , maybe just call up pope and be good. or hope to be good till joe gets back in 8 weeks,, i get people trying to be hopefull at six.. i say 8

Depending on if it's hairline or not, we'll see. I'm gonna guesstimate at 7 games since he missed 6 the last time he had the same injury in 2010. Silver lining is we'll get an extended look at Skule to see if he flashes the ability to be a viable swing tackle going forward. Expecting the team to go for a higher-tier prospect at OT in 2020, but we'll at least have some better competition between Skule, Coleman, Pope and whoever else is brought in.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Again, this has never been stated to my knowledge by Lynch or Shanny. It's just assumed by fans is all.

Why would you draft a RT early in the first round with an aging LT if your intentions were not to move him to LT in the future?

Because in today's game, there's virtually no difference from LT to RT and you need BOTH. They were hoping to avoid being in this scenario for two more years with the Staley extension...probably try for another Staley-like prospect in next years draft or at least, the one after that.

There is a difference. Left tackle protects a right handed qbs blind side. Ends move around in this league regarding matchup. I'd much rather have Mcglinchy protecting Jimmy's back side than a rookie who had problems against nfl 3rd string pass rushers having to see a teams best rusher moving to his side every week until staley returns.

Switching sides is harder than people think it is, its something you do in an offseason if you do it at all. Flipping tackles now just gives him worse protection on both sides.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
It sucks Coleman got hurt, because in our system, he was a good fit for what we do. Skule has the athletic ability but he gets caught holding in pass protection because he stops moving his feet. Footwork is very coachable. He lacks experience but I think practicing against our guys is another bonus towards helping him get prepared.

Adding a vet may be possible, but not sure the team feels there's anyone out there worth it. I tried to advise Sam Young is/was truly terrible and some people argued there would be no drop-off from him versus Coleman -- we see how that turned out. Got beat out by an AAF player and a 6th round rookie.

Bottom line: Skule very likely is the best option in the meantime. He'll make some rookie mistakes, but we just need to ride with it and have others step up. My guess is, if they don't add a street FA, they might just call up Pope from the PS for additional depth in the meantime.

thank you. i also assumed they would bring in a guy for depth. but as you said , maybe just call up pope and be good. or hope to be good till joe gets back in 8 weeks,, i get people trying to be hopefull at six.. i say 8

Depending on if it's hairline or not, we'll see. I'm gonna guesstimate at 7 games since he missed 6 the last time he had the same injury in 2010. Silver lining is we'll get an extended look at Skule to see if he flashes the ability to be a viable swing tackle going forward. Expecting the team to go for a higher-tier prospect at OT in 2020, but we'll at least have some better competition between Skule, Coleman, Pope and whoever else is brought in.

Wont know till they tell us. I think a hairline with a bye in there...we might luck out and get as little as five games missed with eight being max if its worse than the rumors.
Mac played LT as a Leprichaun in college, I think he can handle the switch
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Mac played LT as a Leprichaun in college, I think he can handle the switch

Yeah and he struggled there in college. He's far better suited to play the right side. Why weaken two positions?
We need to be ready for Staley's replacement anyway and injuries happen, unfortunately. This is why depth is crucial and back ups gotta be ready to jump in at moment's notice.

I hope Skule is prepared to take over for half the season. Staley said he'd help coach him. Once he retires, hire him as our OL coach.
[ Edited by mcbaes72 on Sep 16, 2019 at 9:06 AM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Mac played LT as a Leprichaun in college, I think he can handle the switch

Yeah and he struggled there in college. He's far better suited to play the right side. Why weaken two positions?

Skule played RT at Vandy, he is a rookie, play to his strength...

IMO, easier for Skule to play RT than learn a position he is not well suited to play like LT, where Mac already has a grasp of what it takes to play LT and could be serviceable with less help needed (RB chip, TE, etc.)
[ Edited by riverrunzthruit on Sep 16, 2019 at 9:13 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by braap49er:
I would move McGlinchey to LT and Skuke to RT until Staley returns

That's why you are not coaching the team

Hoov says yes. The best OL athlete should always be at LT.

Lol. Isn't McGlinchey gonna take over for Staley when he retires? Why not have your BEST tackle covering Jimmy's blind side. Skule could get Jimmy killed and there goes the season. Again
[ Edited by braap49er on Sep 16, 2019 at 9:13 AM ]
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Mac played LT as a Leprichaun in college, I think he can handle the switch

Yeah and he struggled there in college. He's far better suited to play the right side. Why weaken two positions?

Skule played RT at Vandy, he is a rookie, play to his strength...

IMO, easier for Skule to play RT than learn a position he is not well suited to play like LT, where Mac already has a grasp of what it takes to play LT and could be serviceable with less help needed (RB chip, TE, etc.)

Skule didn't play RT at Vandy. He was their starting LT and the only sack he allowed was to Josh Allen.

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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Shanny will scheme to help out Skule at LT... he will put a TE next to him, or a wing, use a back to chip, slide the protection to his side, limiting the number of times when he is BoB with an edge rusher.

Agree, and I think Skule will do ok in the steeler game with some scheme help, and improve thereafter.

Best case scenario, Joe Staley loses his job (in a sense) to Skule. Now joe can go and be assistant coach to Benton.
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Mac played LT as a Leprichaun in college, I think he can handle the switch

Yeah and he struggled there in college. He's far better suited to play the right side. Why weaken two positions?

Skule played RT at Vandy, he is a rookie, play to his strength...

IMO, easier for Skule to play RT than learn a position he is not well suited to play like LT, where Mac already has a grasp of what it takes to play LT and could be serviceable with less help needed (RB chip, TE, etc.)

Skule didn't play RT at Vandy. He was their starting LT and the only sack he allowed was to Josh Allen.


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Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by braap49er:
I would move McGlinchey to LT and Skuke to RT until Staley returns

That's why you are not coaching the team

Hoov says yes. The best OL athlete should always be at LT.

Lol. Isn't McGlinchey gonna take over for Staley when he retires? Why not have your BEST tackle covering Jimmy's blind side. Skule could get Jimmy killed and there goes the season. Again

I think that's still the idea, but if Skule does well, I'd leave McGlinchy where he is for now. We shall see in the Steeler game.
I think KS said hewouldn't move McG - saying, why change 2 positions instead of one
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Mac played LT as a Leprichaun in college, I think he can handle the switch

Yeah and he struggled there in college. He's far better suited to play the right side. Why weaken two positions?

Struggled so badly there that we used a top 10 pick to get him.
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