Defensive Line Thread

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Where doe's Kinlaw line up in the 5 man line?

It's a tite front with double 3 techs. I like that this front allows the 49ers to force multiple one-on-ones inside, and with guys like Hargrave and Armstead, they're going to rack up a ton of pressures, sacks and QB hits.

The one drawback is that it is very obvious to the offense what is about to happen - five DL rush, 5 in man coverage, one deep safety. But so far I think it's been all positive when the 49ers use this personnel.

Isn't this what PHI did a lot of last season?

Oh, I wonder how many other teams do this. If there are, it's new to me. I'm talking specifically about five DLmen in a three point stance.

The eagles ran a lot of 5 man fronts last season. I don't know whether all 5 were in a 3 point stance or not.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Where doe's Kinlaw line up in the 5 man line?

It's a tite front with double 3 techs. I like that this front allows the 49ers to force multiple one-on-ones inside, and with guys like Hargrave and Armstead, they're going to rack up a ton of pressures, sacks and QB hits.

The one drawback is that it is very obvious to the offense what is about to happen - five DL rush, 5 in man coverage, one deep safety. But so far I think it's been all positive when the 49ers use this personnel.

Isn't this what PHI did a lot of last season?

Oh, I wonder how many other teams do this. If there are, it's new to me. I'm talking specifically about five DLmen in a three point stance.

The eagles ran a lot of 5 man fronts last season. I don't know whether all 5 were in a 3 point stance or not.

Ok. We're talking about different things. There are a lot of teams that use five man fronts (3-4 defense). It's the five down linemen, in passing situations, that is atypical.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Where doe's Kinlaw line up in the 5 man line?

It's a tite front with double 3 techs. I like that this front allows the 49ers to force multiple one-on-ones inside, and with guys like Hargrave and Armstead, they're going to rack up a ton of pressures, sacks and QB hits.

The one drawback is that it is very obvious to the offense what is about to happen - five DL rush, 5 in man coverage, one deep safety. But so far I think it's been all positive when the 49ers use this personnel.

Isn't this what PHI did a lot of last season?

Oh, I wonder how many other teams do this. If there are, it's new to me. I'm talking specifically about five DLmen in a three point stance.

The eagles ran a lot of 5 man fronts last season. I don't know whether all 5 were in a 3 point stance or not.

Ok. We're talking about different things. There are a lot of teams that use five man fronts (3-4 defense). It's the five down linemen, in passing situations, that is atypical.

i use it madden to stop the run if that counts

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Where doe's Kinlaw line up in the 5 man line?

It's a tite front with double 3 techs. I like that this front allows the 49ers to force multiple one-on-ones inside, and with guys like Hargrave and Armstead, they're going to rack up a ton of pressures, sacks and QB hits.

The one drawback is that it is very obvious to the offense what is about to happen - five DL rush, 5 in man coverage, one deep safety. But so far I think it's been all positive when the 49ers use this personnel.

Isn't this what PHI did a lot of last season?

Oh, I wonder how many other teams do this. If there are, it's new to me. I'm talking specifically about five DLmen in a three point stance.

The eagles ran a lot of 5 man fronts last season. I don't know whether all 5 were in a 3 point stance or not.

Ok. We're talking about different things. There are a lot of teams that use five man fronts (3-4 defense). It's the five down linemen, in passing situations, that is atypical.

Thank you for the clarification.

Anyone questioning our D line should check out this giants content creator's film review. The giants were max protecting and still couldn't give Daniel Jones a clean pocket.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Where doe's Kinlaw line up in the 5 man line?

It's a tite front with double 3 techs. I like that this front allows the 49ers to force multiple one-on-ones inside, and with guys like Hargrave and Armstead, they're going to rack up a ton of pressures, sacks and QB hits.

The one drawback is that it is very obvious to the offense what is about to happen - five DL rush, 5 in man coverage, one deep safety. But so far I think it's been all positive when the 49ers use this personnel.

Isn't this what PHI did a lot of last season?

Oh, I wonder how many other teams do this. If there are, it's new to me. I'm talking specifically about five DLmen in a three point stance.

The eagles ran a lot of 5 man fronts last season. I don't know whether all 5 were in a 3 point stance or not.

Ok. We're talking about different things. There are a lot of teams that use five man fronts (3-4 defense). It's the five down linemen, in passing situations, that is atypical.

Thank you for the clarification.

Maiocco said on his pod that it was actually Hargrave who's been pushing for the 5 down DL from Wilks. He obliged. They wanted more sacks but were happy overall.

More D line film.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
More D line film.

All these pressures are helping so much on 3rd downs and leading to TO's and forcing less receivers to defend d/t having to max protect. The sacks will come in bunches but we're not going to be breaking records here on that stat as every team we face will have to max protect WHILE getting rid of the ball < 2,5s. It's a beautiful thing. A dominant running team will be a great next test for this DL.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
More D line film.

Hargrave and a healthy Armstead is going to wreak havoc this season. Kinlaw and Givens nicely round out the group.

I wonder what Wilks calls that five DL personnel. Would be nice if one of the talented 49er beat writers asked him this.

Originally posted by thl408:
Hargrave and a healthy Armstead is going to wreak havoc this season. Kinlaw and Givens nicely round out the group.

I wonder what Wilks calls that five DL personnel. Would be nice if one of the talented 49er beat writers asked him this.

Crazy how the IDL has gone from a perceived weakness to a strength, same with the EDGE spot. The entire DL is a huge strength.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by thl408:
Hargrave and a healthy Armstead is going to wreak havoc this season. Kinlaw and Givens nicely round out the group.

I wonder what Wilks calls that five DL personnel. Would be nice if one of the talented 49er beat writers asked him this.

Crazy how the IDL has gone from a perceived weakness to a strength, same with the EDGE spot. The entire DL is a huge strength.

If we had one more speed highly productive veteran ER, this DL might finally be complete.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by thl408:
Hargrave and a healthy Armstead is going to wreak havoc this season. Kinlaw and Givens nicely round out the group.

I wonder what Wilks calls that five DL personnel. Would be nice if one of the talented 49er beat writers asked him this.

Crazy how the IDL has gone from a perceived weakness to a strength, same with the EDGE spot. The entire DL is a huge strength.

The IDL group lost Ridgeway but gained Hargrave and a healthy AA. I don't think AA was truly healthy in 2022. He was battling a foot injury and when he came back he was not the same player as AA at the end of 2021 playoffs when he and Arden Key were very effective from the inside.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
More D line film.

Boy, some of those 49ers DLine alignments look almost like the Bear 46 defense - almost.

Hey guys I'm totally obsessed with this DL so I wanted to throw some thoughts out there for those that feel the same.

• Anyone have any knowledge of blocking schemes?
• Who would you say is the DL best player at this time?
• Why aren't we winning more 1 on 1s?
• Am I crazy for questioning this DL?

Id have to imagine Wilks is very happy with the production from the DL as of now. I do find it interesting that our DT's are often being blocked straight up with a helper depending on which way the play moves. Its seems more reactionary than an attacking blocking scheme being used against us. I guess its a win for the opponent as long as our DE's are not dominating.

The greedy side of me wants to see some more creativity

Thoughts?

Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:
Hey guys I'm totally obsessed with this DL so I wanted to throw some thoughts out there for those that feel the same.

• Anyone have any knowledge of blocking schemes?
• Who would you say is the DL best player at this time?
• Why aren't we winning more 1 on 1s?
• Am I crazy for questioning this DL?

Id have to imagine Wilks is very happy with the production from the DL as of now. I do find it interesting that our DT's are often being blocked straight up with a helper depending on which way the play moves. Its seems more reactionary than an attacking blocking scheme being used against us. I guess its a win for the opponent as long as our DE's are not dominating.

The greedy side of me wants to see some more creativity

Thoughts?

Bosa, Hargrave and Armstead are winning their 1-on-1s with Hargrave and Bosa winning at an elite level. Unfortunately, they're getting little out of the other end spot in 1-on-1s. Drake Jackson isn't winning very much and Ferrell is just a warm body out there.

Nick Bosa is still the best overall player on the DL, but Hargrave is playing at a comparable level, especially considering he's an IDL. I think Wilks and Kocurek have done a good job of putting guys in position to win. We talked about it last week, but the 5-DL alignment is a good way to get 1-on-1s across the board.