Defensive Line Thread

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by mitpdub:
What we need is just a heavy body like Ridgeway last year, that clogs up the center of the field in passing downs. Kinlaw as broken down by Papa and Ryan plays too high and is easy to turn between his steps.

Hopefully both DT's are healthy and we don't need to worry about this. I'm optimistic they'll both be ready. Even if just one of them is that's a huge relief.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

If we are down those guys monday its going to be rough.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

I think the stat is misleading. We usually lead which takes away the run. I don't think we are that bad, but I wouldn't say top 5 either.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

I think the stat is misleading. We usually lead which takes away the run. I don't think we are that bad, but I wouldn't say top 5 either.

This. We give up a high YPC but low YPG. Our offense has masked the weak run D, we call that complimentary football. I'm still more concerned with the secondary.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I think it's going to be tough if they're down even one of those guys. The one difference in this game on Christmas is that the 49ers are going to have different DE's, CB's are faster and Tashaun Gipson will be starting. Back in 2019 when they faced Baltimore the 49ers had Marcell Harris, Azeez Al-Shair, Julian Taylor, Solomon Thomas and Jaquiski Tartt playing and they held them to 20 points in Baltimore. I think the defensive roster has massively upgraded since then, their offense has hardly changed.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

I think the stat is misleading. We usually lead which takes away the run. I don't think we are that bad, but I wouldn't say top 5 either.

This. We give up a high YPC but low YPG. Our offense has masked the weak run D, we call that complimentary football. I'm still more concerned with the secondary.

Absolutely agree 💯% that Kyle's ball control offense does inflate the 49ers defensive run game stats. I don't think we're a top of the line run stopping defense despite what the stats say, simply *because of* the nature of Kyle's ball hogging offense. Teams usually (1) don't run when they are behind and (2) time of possession is less than the 49ers so they can't execute as much run plays as they would like.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

I think the stat is misleading. We usually lead which takes away the run. I don't think we are that bad, but I wouldn't say top 5 either.

This. We give up a high YPC but low YPG. Our offense has masked the weak run D, we call that complimentary football. I'm still more concerned with the secondary.

Absolutely agree 💯% that Kyle's ball control offense does inflate the 49ers defensive run game stats. I don't think we're a top of the line run stopping defense despite what the stats say, simply *because of* the nature of Kyle's ball hogging offense. Teams usually (1) don't run when they are behind and (2) time of possession is less than the 49ers so they can't execute as much run plays as they would like.

All the more reason that after tackle, corner, and IOL, I'd draft a defensive tackle that is an elite run stuffer and can provide some pass rush. I'd draft one late as well to develop.