Defensive Line Thread

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

If we are down those guys monday its going to be rough.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

I think the stat is misleading. We usually lead which takes away the run. I don't think we are that bad, but I wouldn't say top 5 either.

This. We give up a high YPC but low YPG. Our offense has masked the weak run D, we call that complimentary football. I'm still more concerned with the secondary.

Absolutely agree 💯% that Kyle's ball control offense does inflate the 49ers defensive run game stats. I don't think we're a top of the line run stopping defense despite what the stats say, simply *because of* the nature of Kyle's ball hogging offense. Teams usually (1) don't run when they are behind and (2) time of possession is less than the 49ers so they can't execute as much run plays as they would like.

All the more reason that after tackle, corner, and IOL, I'd draft a defensive tackle that is an elite run stuffer and can provide some pass rush. I'd draft one late as well to develop.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

I think the stat is misleading. We usually lead which takes away the run. I don't think we are that bad, but I wouldn't say top 5 either.

This. We give up a high YPC but low YPG. Our offense has masked the weak run D, we call that complimentary football. I'm still more concerned with the secondary.

Absolutely agree 💯% that Kyle's ball control offense does inflate the 49ers defensive run game stats. I don't think we're a top of the line run stopping defense despite what the stats say, simply *because of* the nature of Kyle's ball hogging offense. Teams usually (1) don't run when they are behind and (2) time of possession is less than the 49ers so they can't execute as much run plays as they would like.

All the more reason that after tackle, corner, and IOL, I'd draft a defensive tackle that is an elite run stuffer and can provide some pass rush. I'd draft one late as well to develop.

Yup. And there are a ton of cheap veterans you can add annually as well d/t the overdrafting and oversaturated market. Even more so if you're just looking for a plugger. Lynch was way ahead of the curve on that one.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Suh wouldn't be terrible move. Just plug and play for cheap. Our middle is SOFT

I mean we have allowed 8 rushing TD for the season which is 4th least and allowed 3rd fewest rushing yards/game

I mean yes the last game without both of our starters and 1 backup made it so we had no rotation on the interior and that was also the outlier game. We have allowed 4 game with over 100 yards rushing (2 to the Cardinals , Browns, Bengals)

I think the stat is misleading. We usually lead which takes away the run. I don't think we are that bad, but I wouldn't say top 5 either.

This. We give up a high YPC but low YPG. Our offense has masked the weak run D, we call that complimentary football. I'm still more concerned with the secondary.

Absolutely agree 💯% that Kyle's ball control offense does inflate the 49ers defensive run game stats. I don't think we're a top of the line run stopping defense despite what the stats say, simply *because of* the nature of Kyle's ball hogging offense. Teams usually (1) don't run when they are behind and (2) time of possession is less than the 49ers so they can't execute as much run plays as they would like.

All the more reason that after tackle, corner, and IOL, I'd draft a defensive tackle that is an elite run stuffer and can provide some pass rush. I'd draft one late as well to develop.

Yup. And there are a ton of cheap veterans you can add annually as well d/t the overdrafting and oversaturated market. Even more so if you're just looking for a plugger. Lynch was way ahead of the curve on that one.

The cap is going to be strained in trying to retain guys like Aiyuk, Chase Young, and Randy Gregory. I'm betting their free agency is going to go with adding an offensive lineman and drafting a DT late. The backup Offensive linemen that Kyle likes are usually cheap, while the DTs John likes are pricey.

I think the 49ers have 9+ draft picks to use - hopefully they beef up the trenches if they can retain a lot of their stars.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Tonight was the inverse of the performance vs Philly. A lot of selfish plays out there by the DL. A ton of selfish plays by the DL getting too deep and giving Lamar Jackson massive runways to escape through.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
in their defense the ravens started at our own 40 like 4x lol that's playing with a damn gun to your head.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
in their defense the ravens started at our own 40 like 4x lol that's playing with a damn gun to your head.

That's not a valid reason to play selfish/dumb ie there's absolutely zero reason to speed rush Lamar Jackson and get washed out 5 yards past his drop giving him a massive escape lane to run through. I saw Randy Gregory and Clelin Ferrell do this multiple times. That's just one example. I saw Bosa, Kinlaw, Hargraves and others doing equally stupid/selfish s**t.

They avoided doing stupid, selfish s**t like this against the Eagles.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
in their defense the ravens started at our own 40 like 4x lol that's playing with a damn gun to your head.

That's not a valid reason to play selfish/dumb ie there's absolutely zero reason to speed rush Lamar Jackson and get washed out 5 yards past his drop giving him a massive escape lane to run through. I saw Randy Gregory and Clelin Ferrell do this multiple times. That's just one example. I saw Bosa, Kinlaw, Hargraves and others doing equally stupid/selfish s**t.

They avoided doing stupid, selfish s**t like this against the Eagles.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Biggest waste of money since hiring Tomsula.