Defensive Line Thread

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lynch is still missing his closers. Badly.

It's not like he hasn't tried every avenue possible. But he's clearly not getting a high return from Hargrave to Kinlaw to Ford (injuries) to Chase to Jackson to AA (injuries), etc. The needle has not moved forward.

Is it just not a strong eye for talent?

we got a lot of pressure on Love even if we didn't get a sack (unlike Dallas who didn't get either) it caused 2 interceptions and him making a lot of throws on the run. Against Mayfield and goff who are more statues it will result in more sacks

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lynch is still missing his closers. Badly.

It's not like he hasn't tried every avenue possible. But he's clearly not getting a high return from Hargrave to Kinlaw to Ford (injuries) to Chase to Jackson to AA (injuries), etc. The needle has not moved forward.

Is it just not a strong eye for talent?

we got a lot of pressure on Love even if we didn't get a sack (unlike Dallas who didn't get either) it caused 2 interceptions and him making a lot of throws on the run. Against Mayfield and goff who are more statues it will result in more sacks

Pressures are always great but THEY aren't closing the deal and we've devoted more resources in history into one single position group then any other team. This is the playoffs. They need to close esp. when they are this healthy and this rested at home.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Pressures are always great but THEY aren't closing the deal and we've devoted more resources in history into one single position group then any other team. This is the playoffs. They need to close esp. when they are this healthy and this rested at home.

Love got pressured on the last play, leading to an int.

But I agree need more sacks. There were 3-5 plays where we got quick pressure and love just got the ball out in under 2 seconds.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Pressures are always great but THEY aren't closing the deal and we've devoted more resources in history into one single position group. This is the playoffs. They need to close esp. when this healthy and this rested at home.

i get it for sure sacks are very sexy but sometimes the QBs are just hard to tackle because of how mobile they are. Love especially because he doesn't just move left or right he backpedals a lot. I think the important part was just making him move off the spot. We did get a lot of pressure on him even if we didn't get home

GB is the third least-sacked team in NFL this year

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Originally posted by frenchmov:
Love got pressured on the last play, leading to an int.

But I agree need more sacks. There were 3-5 plays where we got quick pressure and love just got the ball out in under 2 seconds.

As long as Wilks is playing the soft zone all the time they won't be able to. There is always a dump off available with 5-7 free yards.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lynch is still missing his closers. Badly.

It's not like he hasn't tried every avenue possible. But he's clearly not getting a high return from Hargrave to Kinlaw to Ford (injuries) to Chase to Jackson to AA (injuries), etc. The needle has not moved forward.

Is it just not a strong eye for talent?

we got a lot of pressure on Love even if we didn't get a sack (unlike Dallas who didn't get either) it caused 2 interceptions and him making a lot of throws on the run. Against Mayfield and goff who are more statues it will result in more sacks

Pressures are always great but THEY aren't closing the deal and we've devoted more resources in history into one single position group then any other team. This is the playoffs. They need to close esp. when they are this healthy and this rested at home.

'The Deal' is always the same thing - victories. Pressures are contributing to closing those on a regular basis.
I'd like our D-Line to be even more productive, but they are clearly an elite unit if you consider more than just sexy sacks.

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lynch is still missing his closers. Badly.

It's not like he hasn't tried every avenue possible. But he's clearly not getting a high return from Hargrave to Kinlaw to Ford (injuries) to Chase to Jackson to AA (injuries), etc. The needle has not moved forward.

Is it just not a strong eye for talent?

we got a lot of pressure on Love even if we didn't get a sack (unlike Dallas who didn't get either) it caused 2 interceptions and him making a lot of throws on the run. Against Mayfield and goff who are more statues it will result in more sacks

Pressures are always great but THEY aren't closing the deal and we've devoted more resources in history into one single position group then any other team. This is the playoffs. They need to close esp. when they are this healthy and this rested at home.

'The Deal' is always the same thing - victories. Pressures are contributing to closing those on a regular basis.
I'd like our D-Line to be even more productive, but they are clearly an elite unit if you consider more than just sexy sacks.

They got dominated in the trenches all night and gave up a 100 yard rusher for the first time at home. In a playoff game.

Now, if you want to say it's a talented group, sure. I'm just saying they clearly didn't play up to that talent level (or per investment) last night. And it's been a concern for a while now.

Let's see if they rebound next week.

I think the whole ordeal just highlights how dynamic a player Dee Ford is.....

We keep chasing dudes...hoping for a Dee Ford like impact.

Three things:

1). Our DLine is way different under Wilks than the last 2 DC's.

2). GB's OLine is very good.

3). Hargrave is way over-paid and God forbid they resign Lard Ass Chase.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Three things:

1). Our DLine is way different under Wilks than the last 2 DC's.

2). GB's OLine is very good.

3). Hargrave is way over-paid and God forbid they resign Lard Ass Chase.

It's scary when you can't tell the difference between AA, Hargrave, Givens, and Joseph-Day at first watch.

Originally posted by NCommand:
They got dominated in the trenches all night and gave up a 100 yard rusher for the first time at home. In a playoff game.

Now, if you want to say it's a talented group, sure. I'm just saying they clearly didn't play up to that talent level (or per investment) last night. And it's been a concern for a while now.

Let's see if they rebound next week.

i mean aaron jones is a great RB and even then half of his yards came on 1 run after the first quarter the run defense apart from that 1 run was pretty solid

Why is this unit under performing so bad?

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Lynch is still missing his closers. Badly.

It's not like he hasn't tried every avenue possible. But he's clearly not getting a high return from Hargrave to Kinlaw to Ford (injuries) to Chase to Jackson to AA (injuries), etc. The needle has not moved forward.

Is it just not a strong eye for talent?

we got a lot of pressure on Love even if we didn't get a sack (unlike Dallas who didn't get either) it caused 2 interceptions and him making a lot of throws on the run. Against Mayfield and goff who are more statues it will result in more sacks

Pressures are always great but THEY aren't closing the deal and we've devoted more resources in history into one single position group then any other team. This is the playoffs. They need to close esp. when they are this healthy and this rested at home.

'The Deal' is always the same thing - victories. Pressures are contributing to closing those on a regular basis.
I'd like our D-Line to be even more productive, but they are clearly an elite unit if you consider more than just sexy sacks.

Agreed in all counts, What's funny is that the poster you responded to has an ax to grind with the DL because he's solely focused on OL and thinks they've done a poor job constructing this team, he once had sacks as the true barometer for OL play ..then when that went away he moved onto QB hits…when that went away he was all about pressures and now he's back to focusing on sacks and brushing off pressures as it pertains to DL. . Theoretically this should be applicable to DL play as well, but of course it's not because we are discussing DL here and he's got an angle. The pressure caused the INT which closed the game which makes his point utter b******t

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Agreed in all counts, What's funny is that the poster you responded to has an ax to grind with the DL because he's solely focused on OL and thinks they've done a poor job constructing this team, he once had sacks as the true barometer for OL play ..then when that went away he moved onto QB hits…when that went away he was all about pressures and now he's back to focusing on sacks and brushing off pressures. Theoretically this should be applicable to DL play as well, but of course it's not because we are discussing DL here and he's got an angle. The pressure caused the INT which closed the game which makes his point utter b******t

He also keeps up with this dominated rhetoric when both DLs got up the same amount of pressures and both allowed big runs.

Everything is a damn narrative.

Its simple, the reason the sacks are down is the scheme by design allows easy short completions.

Originally posted by Patton:
Why is this unit under performing so bad?

DL not under performing, we and the rest of the world just made them BIGGER than what they are..