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Dec 12, 2019 at 5:49 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
compared to other DL groups in the league that's still an elite starting squad. They need depth and need Ford to be ready for the playoffs. We're lacking speed off the edge and a big fatty to eat up some early down work.

Thomas is a massive hole knocking it down a notch for me. Jones, yeah.
Dec 12, 2019 at 7:40 AM
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
The panthers game was also a blowout so I'm sure that played a part in the low snap count.

And we ran the ball much better and controlled TOP.

I feel like we're standing pat and like others have said, that might be a mistake. We need some reinforcements for this style of defense.

They must really like street for them to not bring anyone else in.

It's Time for Solly to really step up.
Dec 12, 2019 at 7:44 AM
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
The panthers game was also a blowout so I'm sure that played a part in the low snap count.

And we ran the ball much better and controlled TOP.

I feel like we're standing pat and like others have said, that might be a mistake. We need some reinforcements for this style of defense.

They must really like street for them to not bring anyone else in.

It's Time for Solly to really step up.

If we've shown one weakness in the DL, it's the run game inside when Jones' isn't in. We really do need a two-gap plugger or a 1T like Jones who's strong enough to hold the POA and explosive enough to play in the backfield and force fumbles.

It's scary to see Thomas, Day and now Street being put at such a key position. It puts so much stress on AA and Buckner and the smaller LB's to play down hill through traffic (not their strength).

And both the Hawks and Rams love running up inside --- our weakness.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 12, 2019 at 7:45 AM ]
Dec 12, 2019 at 7:52 AM
Well Thomas has his now or never opportunity imo. I'd love to see what Street can do.
Dec 12, 2019 at 8:02 AM
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Well Thomas has his now or never opportunity imo. I'd love to see what Street can do.

Since Buckner has been double teamed all year, IMHO, I'd just slide him over to 1T and let Thomas/Day tee off at 3T and utilize their quickness at the snap.

Putting Thomas and Day at 1T has been proven a big fail on tape. As it should. Those are players built on quickness and explosion, not power and anchoring.
Dec 12, 2019 at 8:07 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Well Thomas has his now or never opportunity imo. I'd love to see what Street can do.

Since Buckner has been double teamed all year, IMHO, I'd just slide him over to 1T and let Thomas/Day tee off at 3T and utilize their quickness at the snap.

Putting Thomas and Day at 1T has been proven a big fail on tape. As it should. Those are players built on quickness and explosion, not power and anchoring.

Agree. We'd be better off utilizing our best 4 DL in every way we can. If that means playing Buck at 1T/2i part of the time, then so be it.
Dec 12, 2019 at 8:19 AM
A lot has been said about our D giving up more yards on the ground than they did earlier in the year. I think part of it is because we are playing better teams in the 2nd half of the season. Ravens, Seahawks,and Saints all have strong running games so it shouldn't be a surprise that we are giving up more on the ground. You also have to factor in the runs by Murray, Jackson and Wilson.
Dec 12, 2019 at 8:29 AM
I thought Solomon's strength was stopping the run? Has he been bad at that?
Dec 12, 2019 at 11:11 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Well Thomas has his now or never opportunity imo. I'd love to see what Street can do.

Since Buckner has been double teamed all year, IMHO, I'd just slide him over to 1T and let Thomas/Day tee off at 3T and utilize their quickness at the snap.

Putting Thomas and Day at 1T has been proven a big fail on tape. As it should. Those are players built on quickness and explosion, not power and anchoring.
Only if they had drafted Gary I understand he is one hell of an anchorer!
Dec 12, 2019 at 11:51 AM
Day is just bad. No way around it. Can't call this an elite group with him or Thomas in the mix. The elite line up was Ford-AA-Buck-Bosa with Blair and Jones being top reserves.
Dec 12, 2019 at 12:03 PM
Originally posted by lamontb:
Day is just bad. No way around it. Can't call this an elite group with him or Thomas in the mix. The elite line up was Ford-AA-Buck-Bosa with Blair and Jones being top reserves.

I mean not a lot of teams can't say they have Buck/AA/Bosa, that in it self is pretty impressive still. Depth is an issue for sure.

DJ was having a stud season BUT he was still mainly a 2 down NT. I think he had around 300 snaps this season. The glue that holds these DL together is still kicking
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Dec 12, 2019 at 12:04 PM ]
Dec 12, 2019 at 1:37 PM
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Well Thomas has his now or never opportunity imo. I'd love to see what Street can do.


Ditto
Dec 12, 2019 at 3:55 PM
Sounds like Nzeocha may even get some pass rushing snaps at DE with Ford out. Saleh mentioned that he was working with the group today.
Dec 12, 2019 at 3:57 PM
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Sounds like Nzeocha may even get some pass rushing snaps at DE with Ford out. Saleh mentioned that he was working with the group today.

Gross
Dec 12, 2019 at 3:59 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Sounds like Nzeocha may even get some pass rushing snaps at DE with Ford out. Saleh mentioned that he was working with the group today.

Gross

To me, that tells me the team is not going to add another DL and is going to ride this out for one week hoping they can get by versus a "weaker" team. Maybe it's a positive sign that maybe they expect Taylor back next week?
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